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  • MLS Team "Honors" not Updating Correctly in Both FM23 and FM24

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    Mates- I've noticed last year in FM23 that the (MLS) Colorado Rapids Honor section wasn't updating correctly after winning championships. After I noticed it, I stopped playing the save because for me it ruined the immersion of the game. So the last FM24 patch ruined the homegrown status for certain custom data bases, which you all are working on fixing right now. So in mean time I thought I would fire up a MLS save...guess what.....same issue. I'll provide screen shots and descriptions below. 

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    So this is from FM23, you can see that we had won the US Open Cup, the MLS cup and the CONCACAF Champions League. 

     

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    Still FM23...here you can see the "Honors" page. What I find interesting is that the MLS Western Conference, MLS cup and the Supporters' Shield all did update. Colorado had won the MLS cup and Western Conference before and finished runners-up twice for the Supporters' Shield. However, the US Open Cup and the CONCACAF Champions League did not update. Colorado were runners-up once before for the US Open Cup but never made a Champions League final.  Note the "game" date in the upper right corner (as you're looking at it) so we're into season two at this point of the game. 

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    FM24 here....you can see I won the Leagues Cup. 

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    FM24 still....here you can see that the "Honors" did not update with the Leagues Cup. I checked the previous winners and the Leagues Cup trophy appeared in their "Honors". It should be noted that Colorado has never been to a Leagues Cup final before. 

    I've played many, many saves, mostly non-MLS, in FM23 & 24 and only had this issue with the MLS/Colorado. I can't tell you if it's a MLS issue or a Colorado issue, only that it is a problem in both FM23 and FM24 and for me it kills the immersion of the game.  

    P.s. I've uploaded both saved files...unfortunately they both have the same name...the standard FM naming convention. 

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    Bret

    Mates - Can you tell me if this issue was addressed in the last patch? I don't want to have to start a new save and play till I win a trophy to find out. 

    On 09/04/2024 at 15:39, Bret said:

    Mate - Was this issue addressed with the latest patch?

     

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    Bret

    Zachary - Thanks for the update. I do have say I find the issue not being resolved unsatisfactory. I understand that as bugs go, this is a minor one, it doesn't cause the game to freeze or crash...and it seems to be confined to the MLS. So it would appear that SI has to prioritize which bugs it fixes. Note I'm not talking about what order bugs will be fixed in, but rather if it's worth SI's time to fix a bug, from their perspective. You know if this was happening in the EPL it would have been fixed probably in the fall of 2022 since this bug has been in FM since at least FM23. Now I've been playing FM/Championship Manager since 1996 but skipped the 2021 and 2022 versions (for various reasons) so I don't know about those versions. I know it was not in the 96/97 version (I don't think MLS was in Championship Manager until 1999 or 2000) thru FM 2020. (At least I didn't experience it.) So it would appear that not only is SI not fixing the bug...they're knowingly porting it into their current versions of FM. Makes me wonder about FM25. I mean think about it, FM24 was supposed to be the best FM of all time...yet SI knowingly ported a known bug (yes a minor one) into their "best version" of the game ever. I'm starting to get some EA Sports vibes coming from SI. 

    If you can't make the MLS work by hardcoding its unique rules into the game and you don't want to put the time fixing bugs that happen probably because of the hardcoding, then just give us a generic MLS. One that we can edit and set up the way we want. Give us a "clean" league so we can set it up ourselves. All the hardcoding makes editing the MLS extremely difficult.  It can't be a contractual thing...no other soccer games try to set the MLS like it is in real life. Don't half a$$ it, either do it right with the hardcoding (this includes fixing minor bugs) or give us a "clean" league which is easy to edit. Thank you for your time. 

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    I wanna echo the frustration with the way that MLS has been handled over the past two games. The league schedule has been wrong since 23 at least, too (despite the issue being marked as resolved). I think that qualifies as a more major bug. I have seen SI set high bars for documenting data for changes and fixes in other leagues/confeds, but with CONCACAF in general, it all feels very slapped together and treated as an afterthought. I've said before that I understand that CONCACAF isn't what sells FM, but man, getting the schedule right and being able to see the hardware you've won feel like really basic and frankly, kind of insulting misses. I'd be a lot more upset if I wasn't playing on the Game Pass version this year. I would much rather buy the game outright, but I'm not going to do that when the "best version" of the game doesn't even get me playing teams the correct number of times in a season, and not able to see all the trophies I might win. Just a real bummer from an immersion standpoint, which I think is why most of us are here.

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