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    Robbie Hood
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    I am not sure of the real life statistics for pass completion in the championship, and i understand that it`s impossible create a game that simulates real life 100%.

    However, something seems to be clearly wrong when looking at the pass completion stats for the championship. The top 20 players are all central defenders, with the exception of Kyle Naughton. And the pass completion rate seems extremly high: the top 20 players with an average pass completion of 96-98%.

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    Here is a link for the average pass completion of teams in the championship:

     

    Championship Team Statistics | WhoScored.com

     

    As you can see, the highest here is Swansea who average 85%, with the lowest being West Brom who average 62%. The problem with FM22 is that every single team avaerges like 86-90 which looking at the real life averages, is completely unrealistic which then means that the new 'Data Hub' becomes irrelevant as its pretty much the same for every team. I have decided not to play the game until the pass completion is fixed and it reflects real life averages. I understand it isnt going to be perfect but this change would honestly make such a huge difference. Also the match stats seems a bit crazy and 4-2-3-1 is once again overpowered to the point where as a non league side i have around 25 shots and 10 on target every game with a pass completion of like 86% every game. If this unrealism can be fixed for full release I will be very grateful as currently it really kills any enjoyment that the game aims to provide

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    Thanks for the link!

    When comparing real life to FM statistics it becomes clear that something is not right. Hopefully something they can correct for the official release.

    As you wrote Swansea average 85% pass completion while WBA avergae 62%:

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    In FM Swansea average 92% pass completion while the lowest teams average around 85%:

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    So there is a clear mismatch going on here and hopefully this can be fixed. My biggest problem with FM21 was that it was way to easy to achieve success in the lower divisions, and it seems like a lot of people find the beta to easy as well. But i have no idea how difficult it will be to tweak this in the match engine.  Perhaps if the teams with lower passing ability reflects the stats from life more realistically, that can have knock on effects on other areas....?

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    4 minutes ago, Robbie Hood said:

    Thanks for the link!

    When comparing real life to FM statistics it becomes clear that something is not right. Hopefully something they can correct for the official release.

    As you wrote Swansea average 85% pass completion while WBA avergae 62%:

    485724511_ChampionshipPass_LI.jpg.4b82d8931db6b51560ff2c9ef695c916.jpg

    In FM Swansea average 92% pass completion while the lowest teams average around 85%:

    408687181_ChampionshipFMpass.thumb.png.5dd6079690cd906c3eaa0f0d2a127c11.png

    So there is a clear mismatch going on here and hopefully this can be fixed. My biggest problem with FM21 was that it was way to easy to achieve success in the lower divisions, and it seems like a lot of people find the beta to easy as well. But i have no idea how difficult it will be to tweak this in the match engine.  Perhaps if the teams with lower passing ability reflects the stats from life more realistically, that can have knock on effects on other areas....?

    Yeah I also feel like it's gonna be a big one and take a lot of time for them to get the issue fixed. Possibly a whole revamp of the pressing system/passing accuracy in general. In real football, the reason teams will have lower passing % will be because the other team is pressing and not giving them time on the ball forcing them to make bad passes or long balls. On FM the pressing doesnt resemble the actual intensity of real life pressing therefore making it much easier for defenders to just pass between themselves and rack up 98% passing accuracy. As I said, the rest of the game is really good but when im seeing every team have 88%+ passing accuracy every game it kind of ruins the whole game for me. On FM21 I could go to lower divisions JUST so that the passing accuracy was kind of more realistic, but i shouldnt have to do this. I want to play with championship teams and not instantly be able to turn them into a team who can have better passing accuracy than a real life Man City. If SI can get this somewhat fixed, even if not perfect, for full release it would make it the best FM release yet imo, because the passing accuracy has been an issue for a while now yet they never seem to address it.

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    There are several bug threads re high pass completion stats, including versus real life, including one with details stats tests that I did between FME and QME over a full season. I believe SI are reviewing...Fingers crossed addressed for full game release.

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    Good to hear that people are reporting this. There are only a few categories that has Known Issues pinned at the top, so it`s not easy to know what has been reported previously. 

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    On Latest Build

    Premiership: Top ranges 96-94% - All top 20 are defenders

    Championship:  Top ranges 95-94% - All top 20 are defenders

    League 1:  Top ranges 95-94% - 19 of 20 are defenders

    League 2: Top ranges 95-94% - 13 of 20 are defenders

     

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    5 hours ago, MrPompey said:

    On Latest Build

    Premiership: Top ranges 96-94% - All top 20 are defenders

    Championship:  Top ranges 95-94% - All top 20 are defenders

    League 1:  Top ranges 95-94% - 19 of 20 are defenders

    League 2: Top ranges 95-94% - 13 of 20 are defenders

     

    Real life statistics

     

    Premiership: Top 20 ranges from 95-89% - 8 CB's, 1 WB, 11 Midfielders

    Championship:  Top 20 ranges from 92-86% - 8CB's, 12 Midfielders

    League 1:  Top 20 ranges from 92-83% - 6CB's, 14 Midfielders

    League 2: Top 20 ranges from 90-81% - 4CB's 1WB, 15 Midfielders.

     

    source: www.whoscored.com 

    * position can be subjective due to a player playing in more than 1 position

    * midfielders includes def-mid, att-mid, mid-centre, inverted-wingers etc..etc...

    * the top figure tends to be the outlier with, for example league 2 having 15 players on lower than 84%

    * it should be clear to see that as the standard goes down so does the pass completion rates.

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