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    Apparently my entire squad is outraged that we don't have enough depth, even though we have at least two players for every position except for the one I'm currently signing someone for, with trialists alongside and other additional reinforcements on the way.

    It's especially funny to see people who complained about me signing other players in their position join this meeting - do they want me to bring in fresh blood or not? What's more is I have noticeably more players in the squad than almost if not every other club in my league...

    Specifically, they think we need more defensive midfielders, when we already have 4 or so guys comfortable in that position and several others who have the attributes to do it too (ie ones who are somehow comfortable at CM but shown as completely unfamiliar with the position a couple yards behind them).

    Just more frustrating interactions that don't make sense and really detract from the game. If this is intentionally meant to throw up roadblocks to keep things from being too easy, they should be reworked to be more logical. Even if we were a bit short in that position, in what world does the entire squad call me into a conference room to complain about it?

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    Hello, we've had a look at your save.

    You are playing with a DM, so the players are worried about the fact there's only 1 'natural' DM in the squad (Eriksson), who is also one of the worst players in the squad, is a problem. Of the other players that can play in that position
    Strandvall - he has 3 other roles he's better at, DM is one of the weaker positions and he's also very low ability wise
    Pitkanen - A CB who can fill the DM role, but not a natural
    Lewis - on trial, doesn't factor in until he signs (not natural DM though, he's a winger/WB)
    Jaume - a CB who can play the DM role

    So of the 5 players that could play DM, 2 are not very good (including the only 'natural') player and the other 2 are CBs who can do a job there but aren't proper DMs.

    The 2 players that are in the meeting that can play the role but want more depth are Eriksson (knows he's not a starter) and Jaume (who's a CB naturally) so that doesn't feel like an issue

    There's 1 natural player, if you have 1 formation with a DM and only 1 player (who's a fringe player) that can play it naturally that's going to cause an issue. Even if you count Jaume in that position, there's still more depth needed as Eriksson is not good enough

    Regarding the specific interaction I'd need to know the flow user went through and issue so we can have a look at reactions and conversation comments/reactions.

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    9 hours ago, Zachary Whyte said:

    Hello, we've had a look at your save.

    You are playing with a DM, so the players are worried about the fact there's only 1 'natural' DM in the squad (Eriksson), who is also one of the worst players in the squad, is a problem. Of the other players that can play in that position
    Strandvall - he has 3 other roles he's better at, DM is one of the weaker positions and he's also very low ability wise
    Pitkanen - A CB who can fill the DM role, but not a natural
    Lewis - on trial, doesn't factor in until he signs (not natural DM though, he's a winger/WB)
    Jaume - a CB who can play the DM role

    So of the 5 players that could play DM, 2 are not very good (including the only 'natural') player and the other 2 are CBs who can do a job there but aren't proper DMs.

    The 2 players that are in the meeting that can play the role but want more depth are Eriksson (knows he's not a starter) and Jaume (who's a CB naturally) so that doesn't feel like an issue

    There's 1 natural player, if you have 1 formation with a DM and only 1 player (who's a fringe player) that can play it naturally that's going to cause an issue. Even if you count Jaume in that position, there's still more depth needed as Eriksson is not good enough

    Regarding the specific interaction I'd need to know the flow user went through and issue so we can have a look at reactions and conversation comments/reactions.

    I appreciate the in-depth explanation, but that all sounds like a very labored, overly-complex justification for a feature that clearly just isn't working realistically, whether it was intended to be this way or not. The dressing room of a team should not be in full revolt, near mutiny, because of minor details surrounding the 5 players available to play one position in a formation that can be changed.

    It simply doesn't make sense.

    And in actuality, the following season saw us smash the league with Jaume's heroics at CDM earning him the midfielder of the year award and a massive transfer away, with Eriksson as backup, fulfiling the requirement of a Finnish trained player in the squad, which is important context that's been overlooked.

    At the very least, if this is how it's going to be, there should be better responses available to me so that I can explain what I was planning to do (ie "I'll be using/retraining x player to play y position"), and ultimately did do with perfect success - at present you basically have to pointlessly argue with them or agree to make a signing you don't need.

    And that doesn't even touch on the adjacent issue that FM's struggled with, where a player can be natural at CM or CDM but completely red in the other position a few yards up/down the pitch, which has never made any sense either - a ball-winning midfielder is a ball-winning midfielder, no matter how high or deep that line is on the pitch.

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