PeTrOzDaGr8 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I don't want to get torrents of abuse coming my way so i'll say first, this is the first time i've ever done this. I lost to Middlesborough as Chelsea 4-1, i thought this score was unacceptable and reloaded the game :o, i totally changed my tactics and again lost 3-0. I did this time and time again and i can't get anywhere near them. They're in 16th place atm so theyre not terribly good. Is the game fixed against me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 What do you think? No it's not. Sometimes you lose sometimes you win. It's life. Life isn't fair, get used to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 The game calculates the result based on a large number of factors- if they are all against you, then it is perfectly possible to play the game many times with similar results ( just as in real life ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Cheating. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowles Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I don't want to get torrents of abuse coming my way so i'll say first, this is the first time i've ever done this.I lost to Middlesborough as Chelsea 4-1, i thought this score was unacceptable and reloaded the game :o, i totally changed my tactics and again lost 3-0. I did this time and time again and i can't get anywhere near them. They're in 16th place atm so theyre not terribly good. Is the game fixed against me? Typical Cockney bastard. You obviously know **** all about football if you think that losing 4-1 to Middlesbrough is 'unacceptable'. If you did however, know anything about football, you would be able to recall the 4-1 loss Manchester United suffered, 3-0 loss Chelsea suffered and 2-1 loss Arsenal suffered all in one season and face the fact that teams can lose to so called 'lesser' teams. Absolute bell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseel82 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 First off, cheating is bad hmmmkay. Next try changing personnel/tactics might give you better results. I'm sure Arsene Wenger would have liked to reload after Hull beat Arsenal 1-0 at the Emirates!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowles Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 First off, cheating is bad hmmmkay.Next try changing personnel/tactics might give you better results. I'm sure Arsene Wenger would have liked to reload after Hull beat Arsenal 1-0 at the Emirates!!! 1-0? Oh dear. It was 2-1 mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseel82 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 lol, thought it was something like that. I'm not used to the Prem - i'm a Birmingham City fan!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparey Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 lol, thought it was something like that. I'm not used to the Prem - i'm a Birmingham City fan!!! then if your a city fan i suggest you cant say anything about cheating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeTrOzDaGr8 Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 cockney?! and its not IRL mate, this comes for a chelsea side that last match beat 2nd place arsneal 5-0 you ****** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matapatos Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You guys are totally useless. He asks for help and you judge him because he reloaded a match. So what? It's his game, he plays as he sees fit for christ sake... Anyway PeTrOzDaGr8, it's almost definitely your tactics. Try reading about how to build a proper tactic. That however might be time wasting and hard to understand in the beginning, so just download one of the many tactics around. If you go to the tactics forum you'll see plenty there. Here's my own. Try it or any other tactic and then tell me how it went: Link If it doesn't work try others. If you don't like downloading other people tactics, then you'll definitely have to learn how to build proper ones... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakon Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm pretty sure it's not so much about the tactics. At least not overall tactics. If one tactic has been successful and brought you victories throughout the season, theres no point to change it for one specific game - it should work here as well. Things that need revision in tactics are: 1) Player selection. Players need to be motivated, fit etc. Sometimes some rotation makes good, playing your first 11 all the time makes them more tired and less motivated. At the same time players that you bring in should be match fit. 2) Pitch. You might want to adjust your team width and defensive line according to pitch size 3) Weather. Mostly affects passing. Short passing doesn't work so well in rain, use more direct passing. 4) Team talks. When you lose against underdog, it's pretty obvious that they were more motivated than your players. Look your assman report about team talk effects. What did he say? When you have a good run of results and morale goes high, I'm using 'expect victory' most of the time against weaker sides. No matter if home or away. If score is even at HT, say 'disappointed'. If youre down by one goal, then 'want more from you', if down by 2 goals, then angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think you are missing the obvious. You beat another Champions League team with the same fixture burden as you. Then you lost to a team without as many games and more time to recover condition/less chance of fatigue. I may be wide of the mark, but the first thing I would be looking at is your squad management, training workload at busier times of the season and the condition of the players. Whether you choose to replay games is entirely up to you, but I can't imagine you got any enjoyment out of it. Sometimes it is better to accept defeat and move on. Either that or blame it on not being able to see team mates because of grey shirts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nni Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think that a lot of the "random" factors that affect the outcome of a match are already fixed before the match starts. So things like motivation, morale, form, condition, etc are already decided before you start the match. Thus, reloading will likely have your players behave in a similar fashion. Another aspect may be a more mechanistic explanation where the random seeds that the game uses for the match are the same and so a lot of the outcomes will be similar? This is pure speculation though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndebono69 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 really chelsea have way better team and regardless of these 'factors' they should never lose against middlesbrough, let alone conceding 3-4 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Chelsea That should never have happened then johndebono69! C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndebono69 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 well i kinda ment on fm and with the team the have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Chelsea were arguably a better team then and they won the title during that same season. There are always shock results in football. Of course lots of different factors come into play, especially psychological and motivational factors. In addition, not every player always reaches his maximum ability level in a given match. You cannot make such a statement that Chelsea should never lose to Middlesbrough. It's a ridiculous statement to make. The 'better team' (as you are defining it based on individuals) does not always win in football. Otherwise Greece wouldn't have won Euro 2004 and Liverpool wouldn't have won the Champions League in 2005, to give two examples. As for the OP, I've no doubt he made the same tactical mistakes each time he reloaded the game. It was also probably a mixture of other factors, particularly team talks. A game at Middlesbrough is going to need a very different approach, both tactically and in terms of player motivation, than a Champions League game or a game against the top 4. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keys666 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's football - sometimes lesser teams beat the top teams, same as IRL. Reloading because you lost a game? The less said about that the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aodhagan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Give the guy a break. He reloaded it because he prob thought it was a fault or something. Whats with being abused by all these ppl who think they're smart. If you have nothing helpful for the lad dont post. Its prob just a once off just try motivate your players for the next game. Maybe rotate selection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aodhagan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 And he said it was the first time he did this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Typical Cockney bastard. You obviously know **** all about football if you think that losing 4-1 to Middlesbrough is 'unacceptable'. If you did however, know anything about football, you would be able to recall the 4-1 loss Manchester United suffered, 3-0 loss Chelsea suffered and 2-1 loss Arsenal suffered all in one season and face the fact that teams can lose to so called 'lesser' teams. Absolute bell. No true cockney would support Chelsea, their fans are sarf londoners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 No true cockney would support Chelsea, their fans are sarf londoners Their fans are more likely to be from the home counties actually. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 First off, I do not thing reloading is cheating in terms of trying to find out where you are going wrong. Next, you should watch the match and have a look at the statistics to try and determine a weakness in your side the opposition are consistantly exploiting. Considering you are changing your tactic, the personell may well be the problem. I am not ruling out that you could be incredibly unlucky and I know it is frustrating when you lose for obvious reason, but watching over your match in more increased detail could provide you with that little insight you need. A slow full-back could be all that is letting you down at the moment, so be patient, and check out the match in a more increased level of detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aodhagan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Maybe you played same players just 3 days after last game and they were too tired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nni Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Give the guy a break. He reloaded it because he prob thought it was a fault or something. Whats with being abused by all these ppl who think they're smart.If you have nothing helpful for the lad dont post. Its prob just a once off just try motivate your players for the next game. Maybe rotate selection Uhm, the OP asked a question and people answered. How is that "nothing helpful"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alimac Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Why on earth would SI make a game that was fixed against the person playing it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aodhagan Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Uhm, the OP asked a question and people answered. How is that "nothing helpful"? I was directing that at the people who had nothing to help only criticise him for reloading the game. He can do What he likes with his save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakon Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 No really, I think peter-evo might be right here. I always check my opponent players before the match and try to found my weak spots. It might be my MC that is weak in the air (therefore loses most of the headers in the game). It could be opponents very fast wingbacks that easily neutralize my wingers etc. You have sometimes adjust your tactics according to opponent tactics. If you figure out that he's man-marking your wingers, start swapping them. If opponents DC-s are very strong aerially, but slow, use fast technical striker and play low passes to him etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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