CalumF Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondering what people think. Every Sunday or Mondays newspaper back page always have a headline discussing the weekends big debates. Theres always something that overshadows the weekends football. Like Adebayors stamp on Van Piersie and his over the top celebration to the Arsenal fans. Eduardos dive against Celtic in the champions league. Crystal Palaces disallowed goal. Chelseas transfer ban. What im trying to say is why is there none of this in FM. Not these cases in particular but in general. More eratic player celebrations that wind up the supporters. Player bust ups on and off the pitch. At the end of the game. In the tunnel. Red cards that starts off a brawl. Just things that would make back page news. So when the media ask you questions after the match you can get involved and make it into a big thing instead of the normal and repetitive questions you get now. Does anyone agree and think that is can be improved in the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 There should be more controversy and less silly rumors, for example, about me being interested in goalie even despite i have an amazing youngster as GK in starting line-up! if i make enquiry for a player, go on, talk about it, but not when i haven't even scouted the player..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I like it. More media interaction and more press options have been on my FM wishlist since about the 2nd press conference i done on 09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 There should be more controversy and less silly rumors, for example, about me being interested in goalie even despite i have an amazing youngster as GK in starting line-up! if i make enquiry for a player, go on, talk about it, but not when i haven't even scouted the player..! The game's more realistic with that in it. It happens IRL, so why not in the game? You sometimes here of your club's manager keeping tabs on big name players once, and nothing's mentioned about it ever again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon07 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I love the idea of making the game more conterversial, that in turn would make it life like surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_sacfc Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 YES YES YES whhat a great idea i cant believe no one has implicated this yettt this would give variety and add fun well done (y) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3hB3n... Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yep, this is perhaps the greatest idea I've ever heard in Football Manager. We never see very controversial red cards or fights, allegations over other players, players diving, etc, in the news screen and it would make those dull press conferences exciting and varied. Definite yes to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I love the idea of making the game more conterversial, that in turn would make it life like surely? Isn't that the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_ellis_19 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Not once have i had to storm out of a press conference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allies Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Isn't that the point? Somehow I think the question you answered was a rhetorical question... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Yep, this is perhaps the greatest idea I've ever heard in Football Manager. We never see very controversial red cards or fights, allegations over other players, players diving, etc, in the news screen and it would make those dull press conferences exciting and varied. Definite yes to this. Tahnks for the support mate. I think the press conferences in the game are very dull and always ask the same questions. And is why i get my assistant to do them for me! But this is wrong becasuse this is the managers job and has to speak to the media every day. Hopefully will get improved in FM10. We need controversy in the game. Please si. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockybalboa Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Great idea, that would add more realism especially if the stories in relation to players and teams can effect morale or form etc, ie Stevie G poor start to the season, was this due to the summer in court?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon07 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Somehow I think the question you answered was a rhetorical question... Correct But yea there are so many incidents that happen IRL but FM doesn't touch upon them. I should be implemented IMO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Licensing would be an issue here. SI wouldn't be able to implement dodgy ref decisions, drug scams, court appearances etc. on a random basis because it would be defamation of character and would be opening themselves up to be sued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serdar Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 regarding media I have a different request; I think retired players every now and then should become a journalist as in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 SI have yet to reveal anything about the media, so perhaps...hold onto your hats? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 SI have yet to reveal anything about the media, so perhaps...hold onto your hats? Lets hope so dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Licensing would be an issue here. SI wouldn't be able to implement dodgy ref decisions, drug scams, court appearances etc. on a random basis because it would be defamation of character and would be opening themselves up to be sued. Totally understand what you are saying. Like in Steven Gerrards case it could never be implemented. But like for Adebayors case it is already in the game to an extent. It just needs to be worked on. Before the game the press can mention that Adebayor goes up agaisnt former club. Which already happens. But when hes scores or in his interview afterwards he can make or say something that starts the debate. Then, in the game all week afterwards the press can ask you questions relating to Adebayors actions. This could work? The media is such a big part of football. I would just like to see more varied storys coming into your inbox and adding some more excitment to the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Controversy in any form is unlikely to be implemented unless SI are willing to take the chance, which they've stated loads of times they're not going to do. There are some parts of the real life game that are just not able to be implemented into a simulation without consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiebrill Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The problem with most players these days is they feel they are higher than anyone else which is why they will sue over such petty little things like something happening to them in a computer game! This would be a fantastic addition to the media side but as many people have stated I doubt it would be implemented as well as we would like due to licensing issues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker2 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Controversy in any form is unlikely to be implemented unless SI are willing to take the chance, which they've stated loads of times they're not going to do. There are some parts of the real life game that are just not able to be implemented into a simulation without consequences. Licensing would be an issue here. SI wouldn't be able to implement dodgy ref decisions, drug scams, court appearances etc. on a random basis because it would be defamation of character and would be opening themselves up to be sued. Real players dive in the game;real players miss training (though I think only regens miss matches); real players fail to get along with each other (everyone hates Van der Vaart); real players are given ratings for their sportsmanship and temperament. They might not get away with anything too outrageous, but there is scope - if a player gets done for diving, I should have the chance to comment. If a penalty's given, I should be able to claim it was a dive (the best we get now is the occasional opportunity to blame the ref). There's already a trigger in the game (I saw a thread on it a while back) in which in derby games your player will celebrate in front of the rival fans - so extending it to players playing against their old club, as in the Ade incident, is clearly in bounds. For all I know there could be a drugs test option written into the game - because it should be so infrequent that it shouldn't be something I expect to see in every career game, but I would expect to see the occasional fight on the pitch, for instance. In FM09 players get sent off for punching/elbowing people in the face, so a fight would be no more defamatory. The problem with adding all these incidents is that they should be infrequent enough that people don't see them coming - if you had one brawl, one missed drug test, ten diving controversies a season it'd get boring. I've never had a son in the game; I've never had a player miss a match due to sulking; I've never had a player celebrate in front of rival fans. I wouldn't know these things were in the game if not for these forums and that's cool - there should just be a wider pool, so that in a career game one or two things will come up. And if it's defamatory to apply it to real players, they should just have it kicking in for the regens, like with missing matches when unhappy, and going to nightclubs before games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You don't need to convince me, you need to convince SI, I'm just re-iterating and explaining their responses before to these sort of suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Controversy in any form is unlikely to be implemented unless SI are willing to take the chance, which they've stated loads of times they're not going to do. There are some parts of the real life game that are just not able to be implemented into a simulation without consequences. Ok. What about with regens then? Maybe they can be the controversial type. And start things? Argue with the fans and dive in the box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepalace1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ok. What about with regens then? Maybe they can be the controversial type. And start things? Argue with the fans and dive in the box? Surely this could be implemented when 'Use real players' option is unticked when starting a new game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 There are so many additions that could enhance press conferences and media responses, and I'm sure many will be added over the next few versions. But I'm sure that many of us are praying that SI have concentrated on 'polishing' the existing mess since in FM09 press conferences seem to be the most irritating feature by a country mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 There are so many additions that could enhance press conferences and media responses, and I'm sure many will be added over the next few versions. But I'm sure that many of us are praying that SI have concentrated on 'polishing' the existing mess since in FM09 press conferences seem to be the most irritating feature by a country mile. Totally agree. Press conferences were by far the worst feature in FM09. And its something a manager has to do day in day out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The question though remains, what actual impact would it have on the game? Would it just be cosmetic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightymind Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 There will be a media blogs in the coming week according to Miles. I'm sure many improvements will be announced for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I think it would be great if the game was more controversial. Think of the fun it would be if you or your players not only got into trouble with your own FA but the european and world governing bodies as well. One thing I would like in the game is when your assistant tells you that when your trying to sign a big name, but you really don't want this info revealed, that there has been a leak at your club but he doesn't know the source. I think it would be great if you could have some sort of internal investigation and find the source of this leak and take the approporiate disaplinary action against him or her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 "Fans uproar at Gerrard transfer request" "Joey Barton not sent off" "Player X has too much fun at Christmas" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienroden Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Wouldn't it be ok if they put up some sort of disclaimer when you fire up the game, just after the warchild thing, kind of like the one on South Park. They get away with a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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