Fabregas18 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I think Aly Cissokho and Marcus Berg deserves to be upgraded for FM10. Both of them have played great this year . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizzle Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Mesut Özil-should be improved,especially physically and hidden mental stats, he has ambition and he seemed to have bulked up a bit. Marko Marin- Should stay as he's in the game,he's already very high rated. Arshavin-From what I've seen and heard, did way better then what the game presents him at Arsenal. Edin Dzeko-Up-comming World Class Striker Zvjezdan Misimovic-By far better then his in-game representation, one of the best if not the best playmaker in the Bundesliga. Grafite-He's already ''good'' in the game, but c'om 28 goals and 11 assists and he still scores now? Hoffenheim players-Europe is after half of their First Team squad......too many that should be better especially Ibisevic. Ejiro Elia-Won the Yohann Cryuff Aword for the best Youth Player of the Season and instantaneously became a Key-Player for Hamburg. Marcus Berg-Played a class u21 competition and scored a lot for his age at FC Groenigen too. Jack Wilshere-Seems to be a real prospect. Jerome Boateng-One of the biggest defender talents in Europe, pretty much an allrounder, even though Defender Central seems to be his favourite Position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomheadshot45 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Mesut Özil-should be improved,especially physically and hidden mental stats, he has ambition and he seemed to have bulked up a bit.Marko Marin- Should stay as he's in the game,he's already very high rated. Marin's stamina is horrible. He plays the full 90 min. and is always running. He can barely last 60 min. with his stamina. Same with Özil. And their hidden attributes should go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If Glen Johnson isn't drastically improved I will be bitterly disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 If Glen Johnson isn't drastically improved I will be bitterly disappointed. Well, not defensively improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Yeah - I was going to say that. Improved in attack but not defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hos only redeeming feature as a defender is that his pace gets him out of trouble Darron Gibson should be a little better in FM10, was impressive last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackster Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Steven Defour and Axel Witsel from standard liege-great young talent rumoured to be linked with top clubs like man utd and liverpool Lavezzi from napoli- another great argie very exciting player douglas costa-new ronaldinho stanislas from west ham young exciting a bit like ashley young aissati from psv i think hamsik another from napoli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Jackster - Yeah Ismael Aissati is at PSV. I like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Aissati is at Ajax actually, been there since summer 2008. As for Doulgas Costa, he's no new Ronaldinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Is he? I missed that transfer. He was at PSV before wasn't he? I'm sure I seen him play at Anfield for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 He was yes, according to Wikipedia, (Gospel that is is), he was only the fourth ever player to transfer between Ajax and PSV. As for Douglas Costa being the "new Ronaldinho" Jackster, if you meant that he was like him for the bad attitude and the wasting of his ability, then I guess you are right. He will need to do something pretty drastic to become a star in real life like Ronaldinho was between 2004/05-07. In FM, he will probably be class, like so many players, (especially in the past), so wrongly were/are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tameeris Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'll be looking forward to see: Aly Cissokho Lavezzi Fernando (Porto) Roderick (Benfica) Dzeko Marin Pedro (Barcelona) Vermaelen Ramiers Rolando Tiago Cintra (Leixões) Urka (Olhanense) Grafite Gibbs David De Gea Think that should about cover it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TonyVain- Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Thomas Muller of Bayern Munich should get a considerable boost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparey Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Marc Albrighton, James Milner, Nathan Delfounseo, Barry Bannan, Brad Guzan - all at Aston Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 15 is the usual cut off but they dont include a huge amount of 15 year olds tbh... its probably only 15 year olds who agree to be in it with parental consent etc It's got nothing to do with parental consent - it's up to SI wether to include these players or not. It is recommended that they aren't put in, but prior to FM09 there were exceptions for players who had already played first team football. Under 16's that are in FM09 are in by mistake. There will be as no 15 year olds in FM10, other than those of which are in by mistake (although there are new checks in place to try and ensure that no under 15s get in) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Aly Cissokho \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tameeris Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 \o/ Álvaro Pereira is so much better than Cissokho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Now you are going too far tameeris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 One big answer, his stats might not suggest so, but Michael Chopra really needs a boost in terms of performance, so does Chris Burke, a Kevin McNaughton has been amazing in real life, yet FM don't see that. Maybe McCormack, and a bit for Ledley. But Chopra has to go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowSimao Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm going to check out GK Matej Delac. He plays for Inter Zapresic in Croatia and is already 1 of the top GK in the league at age 17. I also hope Nelson Oliveira has some good potential this time, he was ignored in FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbaratunk Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Also, it would be interesting to see, how good the brightest prospects of the current U20 World Cup turn out to be. I know their performances won't have a great bearing on the game when its released, but hopefully the first patch will give them a better CA/PA. If so, then I bet that Koman Vladimir or Vladimir Koman, who is the Hungarian u20 teams top scorer and a midfielder will be pretty good. Also, Adrián Szekeres might be a prospect worth looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Clarke Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 U20 World Cup is not a very strong competition though don't forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRover11 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 looking forward to seeing Rasmus Johnson of helsingborgs Henrik Larsson said hes one of the best finishers he has played with and at 19 is a great prospect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 A post-depression Louis Saha probably deserves a better fate than he always seems to get in FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark123 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Geovanni - Definately needs an improvement from 09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 urrrm.. why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc7 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Jay Spearing - Am hoping he is improved hoping he gets more chances IRL Insua - As he's been playing a lot more for the Liverpool 1st team and has just had his 1st call up to the main Argentinian squad Vermaelen - Has looked really good for Arsenal and scored some goals Wilshere - Enough said Glen Johnson Jovetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanista. Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 sajad salihovic from hoffenheim. he should have 20 for free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 First players I'll check as soon as I get the demo are: Dzeko Grafite Misimovic Ibesevic Skjelbred Mushaga Bakenga (amazing talented 17 year old striker at Rosenborg Norway) Stephen Ireland Luis Suárez Milevskyi Oleh Husyev (Dinamo Kiev) Dzagoev (should be further improved on CA) All MCFC youth players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc7 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 First players I'll check as soon as I get the demo are:Dzeko Grafite Misimovic Ibesevic Skjelbred Mushaga Bakenga (amazing talented 17 year old striker at Rosenborg Norway) Stephen Ireland Luis Suárez Milevskyi Oleh Husyev (Dinamo Kiev) Dzagoev (should be further improved on CA) All MCFC youth players Good shout there with Dzagoev and Ireland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Good shout there with Dzagoev and Ireland Don't you even think about taking him to Liverpool! Taking Superman from us, hurts my soul to even think about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Claudio Marchisio, as he's awesome IRL now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 You know what, let's see Wilshere actually get a game in the Premier League before everybody proclaims him as the new messiah of English football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 sorry.. whos proclaiming him the messiah of english football exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 sorry.. whos proclaiming him the messiah of english football exactly? How about the Great British press? Not to mention a number of posters in this thread. Most of the people who talk about Wilshere have never seen him play, it mirrors the hype Walcott had before the last World Cup which hindered his progress. Wilshere had a very, very high PA in FM09 - there is no evidence on the pitch in the last 12 months to make it any higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackster Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 He was yes, according to Wikipedia, (Gospel that is is), he was only the fourth ever player to transfer between Ajax and PSV.As for Douglas Costa being the "new Ronaldinho" Jackster, if you meant that he was like him for the bad attitude and the wasting of his ability, then I guess you are right. He will need to do something pretty drastic to become a star in real life like Ronaldinho was between 2004/05-07. In FM, he will probably be class, like so many players, (especially in the past), so wrongly were/are. Maybe not as good as ronaldinho but yeah he meant to be a bit of a party goer aint he but ronaldinho in them years you said was awsome remember that goal against chelsea in the champs league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorka Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Romelu Lukaku Mats Rits Jack Wilshere Kyle Bartley Francis Coquelin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afactor4 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 How about the Great British press? Not to mention a number of posters in this thread. Most of the people who talk about Wilshere have never seen him play, it mirrors the hype Walcott had before the last World Cup which hindered his progress.Wilshere had a very, very high PA in FM09 - there is no evidence on the pitch in the last 12 months to make it any higher. Very, very high PA? -10 is a very very high PA. A 180 and above set PA and above is a very very high PA. Why does it matter, Jackie only becomes good 1 in maybe 7 or 8 times under AI control anyway. The thing that bothers me is that you say most people talking about Wilshere have never seen him play. If you had actually seen him play, you'd give into everyone elses raving reviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TonyVain- Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Matias De Federico should definately have a better CA. Was amazing for Huracan and recently moved to Corinthians. Also scored one and set one up on his international debut for Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 'If you had actually seen him play, you'd give into everyone elses raving reviews.' This is exactly the problem I have with this - do you really think that this kind of hype is beneficial to Wilshere? The last English midfielder who was hyped to the skies in the same manner was Joe Cole, undoubtedly a very good player, but I can remember all the ridiculous hype surrounding him before he'd played any amount of games. But its telling that a player like Lampard, who endured none of the hyperbole as a youngster is the one who developed into a really effective player on the world stage. Paul Scholes, a genuinely world class player, one of the finest footballers England has ever produced, was considered no more worthy of hype than Nicky Butt and Ben Thornley before his first team debut. The point being that the likes of Scholes, Lampard and Steven Gerrard were allowed to develop without people expecting genius everytime they got possession. Wilshere will have to be a very grounded individual not to let this hype affect him. -9 is a potentially World Class player. Young English players are generally rated more harshly than some of their continental counterparts - Wilshere is one of the best English youngsters in the game. At the moment i feel that is sufficient although I suspect, rightly or wrongly, that it will be changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawKam Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Darron Gibson Federico Macheda Wonder if Darren Fletcher would be upped with his PA? Or will it be CA only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventricity Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 people should stop saying the same names over and over again. so here is some new ones that should be the best from the norwegian league: mame biram diouf - top goalscorer in norway and bought by man utd (prob will have -9 potential). thioune (the best midfielder in the league) erik huseklepp (the most promising talent from norway together with skjelbred) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afactor4 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 'If you had actually seen him play, you'd give into everyone elses raving reviews.' This is exactly the problem I have with this - do you really think that this kind of hype is beneficial to Wilshere? The last English midfielder who was hyped to the skies in the same manner was Joe Cole, undoubtedly a very good player, but I can remember all the ridiculous hype surrounding him before he'd played any amount of games. But its telling that a player like Lampard, who endured none of the hyperbole as a youngster is the one who developed into a really effective player on the world stage. Paul Scholes, a genuinely world class player, one of the finest footballers England has ever produced, was considered no more worthy of hype than Nicky Butt and Ben Thornley before his first team debut. The point being that the likes of Scholes, Lampard and Steven Gerrard were allowed to develop without people expecting genius everytime they got possession. Wilshere will have to be a very grounded individual not to let this hype affect him. -9 is a potentially World Class player. Young English players are generally rated more harshly than some of their continental counterparts - Wilshere is one of the best English youngsters in the game. At the moment i feel that is sufficient although I suspect, rightly or wrongly, that it will be changed. All your points contribute to the reason why Arsene Wenger is not giving him many, if any, substitute appearances in league play. He's done this sort of thing before, and knows exactly how to develop the player. And to be honest, you're exaggerating the skies at which Jack Wilshere is being hyped up too. Just like any very promising home grown talent, the fans are rightfully expecting him to be a key player in the teams future plans. It seems as though all we hear now are opposition fan boys, like you, playing down his chances of being successful. That's not really hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 "The last English midfielder who was hyped to the skies in the same manner was Joe Cole" yeah but the last brit to be hyped up was rooney... im pretty damn sure he's done fine with it.. wilshire has excelled in every game ive seen him play and has easily been the best player on the pitch at his age level... to say he is one of the best in the world in his age group wouldnt be an exaggeration in my opinion... as for your suggestion that the british press are in particular guilty of the hype machine.... take the likes of saivet in france... lads like him and the same for lads in holland and germany are hyped beyond belief , even getting a full page spread in daily newspapers.. I think the point is that press in general will always hype a player up.. but not without a hint of merit in it.. wilshire has the potential to be the best english midfielder of his generation , far exceeding the likes of what we have now imo.. gerrard being the exception possibly.. also, scholes wasnt hyped because he didnt find his feet , position or flow for a good few years... wilshire has been playing better then scholes did at his age... scholes was a striker first and foremost before moving into his effective midfield position and getting back on track.. im very much looking forward to see how jack rodwell, dan gosling, wilshire, k.gibbs, stearman, joe lewis , zele ismael, reuben noble-lazarus, fleck and co are going to be like in the game and how they turn out irl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 'It seems as though all we hear now are opposition fan boys, like you, playing down his chances of being successful. That's not really hype.' Sorry mate, but that's just garbage. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to take issue with it and I'll leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 welshace - before his scoring spree in the last year the press were questioning Rooney's position in the England team. Let's not forget that. Rooney is a very, very good footballer - no doubt. Is he a great player though? Is he a Cantona or even a Mark Hughes at his best? I could argue that Rooney is a perfect example of English hyperbole. Rooney is a good footballer, he is not the white Pele. This kind of desperate, hopeful article about Rooney was widespread in the past: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/jun/20/worldcup2006.sport4 The point is it shouldn't be now. Rooney is crucial to England's WC bid, he will not win it on his own. Jack Wilshere will not win the World Cup on his own. England's media seem obsessed with recreating the 86 WC in their favour with an English Maradona. Tell me this - did you see Paul Scholes as a 16 year old? I watched every game of the 91 Milk Cup and he was sublime but never flashy. Jack Rodwell is a fine footballer. Is he flashy? No, so he doesn't get the same attention. Of course this is total conjecture, but I will not be surprised if Rodwell has a more successful career than Wilshere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 rooney as good as cantona? yes.. easily... interesting how you bring up cantona.... as good as he was he was easily surpassed by many of even todays players in the premiership... cantona is a cult figure and was fantastically talented.. but not any more so then anyone else.... bergkamp was better for one.... rooney is a truly world class player and would walk into most teams in the todays world.. as for that article.. it doesnt claim rooney is the white pele... it claims his own fans see him as such... and it in fact says clearly that while they shouldnt pin all hope on rooney it is still true to say that most opposition teams will be scared of playing against him... which i for one think is spot on... there isnt a defence in the world who would be happy to play against rooney. paul scholes as a 16year old? yes i did.. as good as he was a teen.. id put him , at that stage.. on par with the gibsons and co of today... played a handful of games and did fine... in fact scholes didnt make his debut until 93' .. as a striker , and scored something like 5 goals in 17-18 games i believe.. which is fine , but not spectacular... compare that to the likes of wilshire, ramsey, michael johnson, noble and even gibson in fact.. and you'll see theres not that much difference.. my point is this... as good as scholes is and was , i think wilshire has every bit as much talent and potential and i dont think there has been too much hype around him at all... none that hasnt been warranted anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Fair enough, I respect your opinion because you obviously know your stuff but you are still saying that you don't think Wilshere has been hyped but in the same breath saying that, already, he has the same talent as Scholes. You see my point? Not wanting to bang on about Scholes but he made an instant impact when he broke into the United 1st team, to the point where many United fans were genuinely annoyed that a British transfer record signing in Andy Cole was being picked ahead of him. On a side note, its curious that Cantona seems to be to be almost dismissed as a cult figure these days. To say that he has been easily surpassed by many modern day players is simply wrong and, if it isn't, I'd be curious to know who these players are because i'm not watching them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4GIVME Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 braga's eduardo and joao pereira deserve stat increses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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