Mar$haLL Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Lee Camp James Perch Luke Chambers Wes Morgan Kelvin Wilson Paul Anderson Lewis McGugan Dele Adebola Robert Earnshaw Nathan Tyson Garath McCleary Joe Garner Chris Cohen Chris Gunter David McGoldrick Paul McKenna Guy Moussi Paul Smith Dexter Blackstock Radosław Majewski Julian Bennett Joel Lynch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Fair enough, I respect your opinion because you obviously know your stuff but you are still saying that you don't think Wilshere has been hyped but in the same breath saying that, already, he has the same talent as Scholes. You see my point? Not wanting to bang on about Scholes but he made an instant impact when he broke into the United 1st team, to the point where many United fans were genuinely annoyed that a British transfer record signing in Andy Cole was being picked ahead of him. On a side note, its curious that Cantona seems to be to be almost dismissed as a cult figure these days. To say that he has been easily surpassed by many modern day players is simply wrong and, if it isn't, I'd be curious to know who these players are because i'm not watching them. saying someone has shown the same talent and potential as scholes isnt giving in to any hype , its based purely on what ive seen myself.. im not an arsenal fan nor english... i have no vested interest in hyping the kid up tbh, but i love football and can see huge potential in the lad... same as i have in the likes of zele and noble-lazarus. As a counter, there is a lot of hype over connor whickam of late, Im not one of the ones thinking he's the next big thing. As for Cantona, he was a great player , no doubt.. but his attitude, off pitch antics and discipline meant he was only playing well when he was playing in a good team.. with good players to back up his failings as a player... talismanic , yes ... best player of his generation, no. kaka, messi, ronaldo, rooney, fabregas, torres are just a few of the players of today who are ten times the player he was when you strip the fame, history etc away from cantona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_bob Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Jack Rodwell from Everton should have a -9 or -10 PA and should be a wonderkid from the start of the game. I would also wanna see Neven Subotić's stats rise and he should be the best 20 year centr back in the game. Jovetic should be the best talent in fm 10 and a must buy for every big team right from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opps Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Not sure about -10, should definitely be -9. He hasnt done anything particularly special, just appears comfortable beyond his young years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_bob Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 IRL, Romelu Lukaku from Anderlecht (born 1993) is the best player in the world at that age with a huge potential. I wanna see that in the new FM. Probably the next Didier Drogba. This is a sure -10 PA. Iker Muniain (born December 1992) from Athletic Bilbao is another gem. The next Fernado Torres. Also, Diego Perotti from Sevilla should be a quality winger in the new FM. Toulouse FC young pair of midfielders, Moussa Sissoko and Étienne Capoue are another 2 gems to watch. Moussa Sissoko is the next Essien. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Iker Muniain (born December 1992) from Athletic Bilbao is another gem. The next Fernado Torres.Toulouse FC young pair of midfielders, Moussa Sissoko and Étienne Capoue are another 2 gems to watch. Moussa Sissoko is the next Essien. Hate it when those kind of statments are bandied about. Personlly I think Iker Muniain would rather be the next Iker Muniain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Moussa Sissoko already has a very good PA in relation to his age, so he doesn't need to be improved PA wise. The same applies to Étienne Capoue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomheadshot45 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Not sure about -10, should definitely be -9. He hasnt done anything particularly special, just appears comfortable beyond his young years. Isn't that something special? Being mature beyond your years is not something particularly easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucatonix Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I think the dilemma for SI with -9 and -10 PA is that if you give a promising youngster a -9 PA the AI will probably be slightly off the estimated real life potential but and reach it if given a -10 but a user given a -10 promising youngster can produce an unbeatable player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Yeah, I agree completely Lucatonix. -9 is 150-180, and -10 is 170-200. They could do with a -9.5 really, of 165-185 or something similar to that, for those that have will almost certainly become good players (and -9 risks being average) but not really the potential to be world class (which is a risk of -10). Players like Jack Wilshere would fit into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Carlton Cole Stephen Ireland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
euanpolo Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Nile Ranger Haris Vuckic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 +1 for nile ranger, cole and ireland... and yes.. rodwell is the one player i can think of right now suitable for a definate -10.... the fact he isnt flashy and hasnt won anything means nothing.,.. imo rodwell's calmness and ease in his game is exactly the meaning of potential... he's already one of the most comfortable players around on the ball and in big games.... what will he be like in 3-6 years when he's learnt his trade fully ? -10 please.. as for iker muniain, he has had a few games and has shown some potential for sure... but to call him the next blah blah blah is ridiculous... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freagle Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Players going up: (Seria A) Jovetic - Wonderkid in 2009 but still plays better as an AMC than a striker. Should be as promising as Pato. Pazzini - Don't remember which FM but he was dynamite. 2009 he was nothing compared to the old Pazzini and now I believe he should be back to his old self as he has been scoring for Sampadoria like Crazy. Cassano - Engine of Sampadoria Abate - Best player in a poor poor Ac Milan team. Who could believe some unknown would turn out quality besides so-called "world class players" at AC. Claudio Marchisio - An established midfielder who is very good in real life. Felipe Melo - He is very underrated as he works very hard up and down the pitch. Musuiera - Promising Lazio goalkeeper. Mind the spelling. Alexis Sanchez - I couldn't believe this lad hasn't yet been snatched by a big club. Very fast, very versatile and very deadly. Simeone Pepe - Another established winger, should be faster and a bit more composed. David Santon - It's debatable here. Some say he has the potential but only Mourinho is standing on his way. Some say he is average. What I say is that he IS very promising in an AVERAGE team with a stupid manager. Simon Kjaer - Rock Solid center back, should be the most talented and promising center back in the game (my opinion) (Premier League) Arshavin - As much as he slags off on the pitch nobody can deny that he is quality. Jack Wilshere - Looks like another gem ;/ should have a higher PA. Jack Rodwell - Deserves better attributes for his work rate on the pitch. Looks like a dedicated lad who is always eager to play. Thomas Vermaelen - Average ratings if not poo in 2009, and seems like 'the signing of the season' for Arsenal fans atleast. Fletcher - Crept out of Ronaldos shadow have we? Unfortunately for Man U, he is yet the only one to do that. Deserves it. Jermain Defoe - A machine in front of goal. Crap at 2009. Carlton Cole - IF he plays manager he would be very disappointed. Craig Bellamy - Crapy attitude on and off the field but you have to hand it to him, superb work rate and scores some scorchers. He is very similar to Kuyt only more goals. Aaron Lenon - He deserves it, very promising and scary for defenders Glen Johnson - As much as i hate him defensively he has to be one of the best attacking full backs in the world. Gary Cahill - Deserves to play in a top team in my opinion. Darren Bent - I bet Redknaps grandmother can't beat his record with Sunderland now, can she? Fabian Delph - Although he has not appeared much yet he is very promising. Kieran Gibbs - Looks like Ashley Cole on the making. (Bundesliga) Grafite - born goalscorer in fm2009 he is better than average. Not more not less. Dzeko - Seems too inconsistent and not as composed as in real life. Muzlimovic - Without him, there wouldn't be Dzeko and Grafite in my opinion. Kiesling - Had superb rating, then very crappy ones. Should go up now. Thomas Muller - Very promising and looks like an established player already. Featuring regularly and is very versatile. Ozil - What a talent, surprised he wasn't snatched up already. (Others) Pedro - Like Barcelona even need him eh ? Still a player who shocked fans with delight. Luis Suarez - Scores goals like crazy, has he gone mad? Nah, he just enjoys it as much as we enjoy FM ;/ Chamakh - Not for his goalscoring but his work rate on the pitch. Gourcuff - Spelling as usual. But with Milan struggling and no Kaka wouldn't Yohann have his chance to shine now? Ohhh only time will reveal how stupid Milan were for selling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennufc Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 aaron spear tim krul haris vuckic nile ranger tamas kadar tommy fraser rob taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_bob Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Juan Mata should be a beast in fm2010. Just as good as Silva. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprooly Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Rodwell Saha Pienaar jagelkia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbaratunk Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Okay, to make it easier for everybody to search for the players, and to avoid providing the same names again and again, here are all the players mentioned so far and a few others. Its 186 players, so that should keep everybody occupied for a while. I think it'd be best that if someone would like to add another name, just check whether it has already been mentioned. Ignazio Abate Dele Adebola Adeyemi Benik Afobe Ismaïl Aissati Marc Albrighton Paul Anderson Andrey Arshavin Holger Badstuber Mushaga Bakenga Barry Bannan Kyle Bartley Craig Bellamy Julian Bennett Ryan Bennett Darren Bent Marcus Berg Mame Biram Diouf Dexter Blackstock Jerome Boateng Leonardo Bonucci Fabio Borini John Brayford Christopher Buchtmann Kerim Bulut Chris Burke Gary Cahill Lee Camp Lorik Cana Étienne Capoue Mehdi Carcela Luc Castaignos Lee Cattermole Marouane Chamakh Luke Chambers Michael Chopra Tiago Cintra (Leixões) Aly Cissokho John Cofie Chris Cohen Carlton Cole Francis Coquelin Douglas Costa Luke Daley Kofi Danning David De Gea Matías De Federico (Corinthians) Jermain Defoe Matej Delac (Inter Zapresic) Nathan Delfouneso Fabian Delph Alan Dzagoev Edin Dzeko Robert Earnshaw Eduardo (Braga) Eljero Elia Mounir El Hamdaoui Fernando (Porto) John Fleck Darren Fletcher Tommy Fraser Joe Garner Gamboa Grafite (Wolfsburg) Kieran Gibbs Darron Gibson Dan Gosling Yoann Gourcuff Chris Gunter Brad Guzan Marek Hamšík Eden Hazard Jordan Henderson Zavon Hines Benedikt Höwedes Mats Hummels Erik Huseklepp Oleh Husyev (Dinamo Kiev) Sam Hutchinson Vedad Ibisevic Insua (Liverpool) Stephen Ireland Zeli Ismail (Ismael?) Phil Jagielka Glen Johnson Rasmus Johnson Roger Johnson (Birmingham) Stevan Jovetic Tamás Kádár Keirrison Simon Kjaer (Palermo) Vladimir Koman Tim Krul Reuben-Noble Lazarus Lavezzi (Napoli) Joe Ledley Aaron Lennon Joe Lewis Adem Ljajic Romelu Lukaku Michael Lumb (AGF) Joel Lynch Federico Macheda Radosław Majewski Eliaquim Mangala Claudio Marchisio Marko Marin Nicky Maynard Juan Manuel Mata Garath McCleary McCormack David McGoldrick Lewis McGugan Paul McKenna Kevin McNaughton Felipe Melo Francisco Merida Artem Milevskiy James Milner Zvjezdan Misimovic Wes Morgan Christoph Moritz Ravel Morrison Guy Moussi Thomas Müller (Bayern) Iker Muniain Musuiera (Lazio) Boaz Myhill Krisztián Németh David N'gog Nelson Oliveira Mesut Özil Javier Pastore Giampaolo Pazzini Pedro Rodriguez (Barcelona) Simeone Pepe James Perch Álvaro Pereira João Pereira (Braga) Diego Perotti Steven Pienaar Ramiers Aaron Ramsey Nile Ranger Andrea Ranocchia Aex Rebko Loïc Rémy Mats Rits Roderick (Benfica) Jack Rodwell Rolando Declan Rudd Louis Saha Henri Saivet Sajad Salihovic Alexis Sanchez Davide Santon Lukas Schmitz Andre Schürrle Jason Scotland Moussa Sissoko Per Ciljan Skjelbred Korey Smith Paul Smith Robert Snodgrass Aaron Spear Jay Spearing Junior Stanislas Richard Stearman Miroslav Stoch Luis Suarez Neven Subotić Adrián Szekeres Taraabt Rob Taylor Makhtar Thioune (Molde) Arda Turan Michael Turner Nathan Tyson Urka (Olhanense) Gregory (?) van der Wiel Thomas Vermaelen Haris Vučkić Danny Welbeck Vladimir Weiss Jack Wilshere Kelvin Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 You have a lot of free time mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 rojer johnson made a step up to prem and looks good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opps Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 LOL, the list is even in alphabetical order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomheadshot45 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Awesome list Great list. I think Gourcuff's finishing needs to be increased, as does his creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Great list. I think Gourcuff's finishing needs to be increased, as does his creativity. I can smell Excel here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbaratunk Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 You have a lot of free time mate Yeah, lazy Sunday afternoons. I needed the list for myself, as scouting for up and coming talents and raising them the way I want is my favourite part of the game. And then I remembered that its fun to share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 For my own club Wolves: Kevin Foley-Best player in the CCC last season and our player of the season despite our "star players" getting all the credit from the press. Ebanks Blake-Has mediocre stats and having scored 50 in the last 2 seasons surely merits a rise in stats. 11 for composure? Really? Hennessey-Questionable last season but starting to show his class in the Prem now, don't expect him to be with us long. To everyone suggesting Zele Ismail, he was drastically overhyped in the press by our ex youth coach who fell out with the club and is now subsequently trying to poach our youngsters. Mendez Laing-Already around the first team, pacey winger able to play on both sides and up top with an eye for a goal. Voted best player at the Gothia Cup (like a UCL youth team cup) which our youngsters won. Perhaps deserves a -8/-9 but should be a quality player in the future so expect him to have higher ratings in a few years. From everywhere: Marchisio-Looking extremely good right now Pedro-Surely not another uberly talented Spanish midfielder? Drogba-Thought he had poor stats last season, untouchable on his day Vermaelen-Looking good for the Arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidbaratunk Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I thought I'd just bump this just a bit, seeing as the demo is out and hopefully a lot of you will be checking out some of the listed players:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinThomson'1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Off the top off my head : Marko Marin Santon Beevers Sidnei Asenjo Foster Welbeck Ninis Wijnaldum Nilmar Feghouli Agbonlahor Camacho Kabore Zuculini Mattock Barron McCormack N'gog Fleck Lennon Aaron Niguez Sheridan O'Dea Loy McMillan Lowing Weiss Bendiksen Danny Wilson Ross Harvey Labadie Sturridge Turnbull Taarabt Walcott Saivet Diaby Song Vermaelen Drenthe Marcelo Busquets HUNDREDS ! Loading the Strawberry version of fm 10 just now, can't wait to check these guys out and EVERYTHING ELSE i am pacing the place in excitment, it better shift its self Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nørbæk Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Simon Kjær from Palermo (DC). He's already a star player after only one season, is 20 years old and have had his national debut back in february (on the proper national team, that is). Of course, it depends on your definition of cheap, since I've heard he has a clause of about 100 million DKK. Cheap in the long run but probably not so much immedietly. Rumors have Juventus, AC Milan, Inter, Chelsea, Liverpool and several others chasing after him all summer and still trying to sign him on and off. This season alone he has been in goal.com's Team of the Week in round 1 and 7 (mind you, goal.com operates with a 3-4-1-2, making it much harder for a defender to make it). You'll definitely want to watch out for him in FM10. Try out Michael Lumb from AGF in the Danish league. He's a left back and very talented. However, I can't really say how much SI pays attention to Denmark, so he's probably not that good (but hopefully have a good bit of potential). He is 21 years old and was named U-21 Player of the Year in Denmark in 2008. He has also been called up to the national team for two matches but haven't had his debut yet. Simon Kjær made his debut on 6 June 2009 versus Sweden. Lumb has got his realistic level, i.e. a decent/good Danish Premier Division player with the potential to be an international regular player. We pay much attention to the Danish league but we try not to overrate it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Good bump Nørbæk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITFC 1 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 im sorry, but Macheda of Man United doesnt deserveto be upgraded at all, to be perfectly honest, I dont even think hes that good of a footballer, scores one goal againt Aston Villa, and now he's meant to be the bee's knee's? whats he done since? JACK S***! Thats what. However, someone who should be looked out for, is Aaron Ramsey, an absolute quality footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeesh Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 How good is Yoann Gourcuff as an MC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afactor4 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 im sorry, but Macheda of Man United doesnt deserveto be upgraded at all, to be perfectly honest, I dont even think hes that good of a footballer, scores one goal againt Aston Villa, and now he's meant to be the bee's knee's? whats he done since? JACK S***! Thats what. However, someone who should be looked out for, is Aaron Ramsey, an absolute quality footballer. 6 United players have -9 PA's (Fabio, Rafael, Macheda, Welbeck, Morrison, Petrucci) 6 Chelsea (Tore, Sturridge, Prosenik, Delac, McEachren, Kakuta) 5 Liverpool (Dalla Valle, Bruna, Pepper, Pacheco, Nemeth) while 3 Arsenal players have -9 PA's (Wilshere, Ramsey, Nordveit) There are many things wrong with the way reasearchers decide to upgrade players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 How good is Yoann Gourcuff as an MC? He's good but he's better at AMC or even AMR to some degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTD Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Collinson needs a boost he is really good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 i gather you mean collison?.. and yes he's great.. but i dont think the stats are too far off... he's a hard working, determined footballer which is shown nicely in his in game stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Robbie Rob Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 You would think, after being named by Uefa as one of the top 10 youngsters in the world/Europe, Christopher Buchtmann would be one to watch out for. But no, the Liverpool researcher was smacked off his little boobies as per. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt123456 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Kwadwo Asamoah Stats Gael Kakuta Stats Marco Verratti Stats Damien Le Tallec Stats Jack Wilshere Stats Coutinho Stats Macauley Chrisantus Stats Kyriakos Papadopoulos Stats Alan Dzagoev Stats Toni Kroos Stats Jack Rodwell Stats Dodo Stats Khouma Babacar Stats Georginio Wijnaldum Stats Francesco Bolzoni Stats Jano Ananidze Stats Ignacio Camacho Stats Vicenzo Fiorillo Stats Silviu Lung Jr. Stats Gonzalo Barreto Stats Levan Kenia Stats All stats are 6 seasons in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Robbie Rob Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Hate it when those kind of statments are bandied about. Personlly I think Iker Muniain would rather be the next Iker Muniain. I'd rather be the next Fernando Torres to be honest. Who wouldn't?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Cheick Diabate, Federico Carraro, Marek Suchy, Andrea Masiello, Uros Cosic, Damien Marcq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 You would think, after being named by Uefa as one of the top 10 youngsters in the world/Europe, Christopher Buchtmann would be one to watch out for. But no, the Liverpool researcher was smacked off his little boobies as per. while i agree he is a top prospect buchtmann hasnt proven anything yet... he's got top potential and is a great player in the game.... why insult the people who help make this game what it is? and dont trust everything eufa says... they named the likes of lulinha, kerlon, and painfully (for me as im welsh and a fan) gareth bale before now.. and they havent exactly set the world alight now have they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Robbie Rob Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 and dont trust everything eufa says... they named the likes of lulinha, kerlon, and painfully (for me as im welsh and a fan) gareth bale before now.. and they havent exactly set the world alight now have they I watched the tournament in which it was based off, he was one of the star players of the tournament. The tournament included the likes of Castaignos and Wilshere who both have higher potential, despite Buchtmann performing on an equal level to them. Same with Gotze. You talk about Lulinha etc., but they were, at the time, highly rated on FM, whilst trusting Uefa isn't the answer, what do the researches base their claims off? Buchtmann is a massive potential player, he's better than at least two of the -9 players at Liverpool on the game, who have both proven equally little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 researchers are usually fans of clubs who see the players play week in week out... as far as buchtmann is concerned.. he would have been based on what the german researcher has said.. with the possiblity of slight changes by the liverpool researcher in the patches. and your right.. lulinha etc were rated highly at one time on the game... so if anything.. its a good indicator that the researchers are getting better no?. buchtmann, for me. bar what he achieved in those few games in the tournament , hasnt proven anything.. the likes of pacheco and nemeth have all had time to prove themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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