Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I have played CM then FM for the past 10-11 years or so. I absolutely love the game, I think its complete genius and I will always buy every edition on release day with masses of excitement. One area which has always been grey in my eyes however, is when playing a game, the 'latest scores' let FM down bigtime. Currently (in my experience) I click on latest scores and they havent yet kicked off, despite the kick off times being the same as my game. So when I am 30mins into a game, so should they. This area could actually make FM even closer to being real life like. If they could get the games to start on time in the latest scores screen and keep in sync with the users game, it would be fantastic. The idea I would love to see, would be some sort of Vidiprinter, or a scroll across the bottom of your match screen that instantly updates you to live goals, sendings off etc. So its a bit like Sky Sports Extra on Champions League night. where you get informed of each and every goal scored. At half time when doing your tactics or team talk, there could again be a scroller at the bottom informing of half time scores, and again at full time. This would make the FM user much more in touch with the league itself rather than just his/her own team. Quite often when a title challenge comes down to the last day of the season, I want to know how the rival team is doing - and 99 percent of the time, it will just continuously tell me that the game hasnt kicked off, despite it being 1 minute till the final whistle. I always go to look each year to see if this feature has been added/improved .... but as of yet, no Fingers crossed for FM10! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shottaz Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Most of this already exists in the menus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viola29 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Do you mean there should be goal updates coming in from relevant matches whilst you are playing your game? (Instead of clicking the goal updates screen, which quite frankly is useless). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 thats exactly what I mean. The Goal Updates screen doesnt work. It only lists the games as due to kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Most of this already exists in the menus. No it doesnt. You get the option to see what the scores are elsewhere - but they dont work, it just appears like none of them have kicked off. And a live goal update feed doesnt exist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron1606 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Its your computer that stops latest scores from being upto date, and still at kickoff. My old PC would show maybe one or two latest scores. Then I bought a new PC, much better spec, and all the games are latest scores rather than kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 How could it be the spec of a computer that determines whether the scores are up to date or not? Thats no fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 How could it be the spec of a computer that determines whether the scores are up to date or not? Thats no fair I don't know for sure but I would assume that it takes processing power to calculate the latest scores. If your "live" match is taking up all the power then there is no spare capacity to calculate the latest scores of other matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james170288 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 there is a live goals update. its one of the widgets in the drop down menu at the top right of the match screen when viewing the tv mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 what?! i always have the latest scores widget on and mine is up to the minute? i don't know what you're saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 what?!i always have the latest scores widget on and mine is up to the minute? i don't know what you're saying. Not everybody can use TV view because it is far more sluggish than standard view, so widgets are a no go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdunk Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I don't know for sure but I would assume that it takes processing power to calculate the latest scores. If your "live" match is taking up all the power then there is no spare capacity to calculate the latest scores of other matches. This, basically. The other matches in your league get processed in the background (starting while you are picking your team and tactics etc). If it has finished processing a game, you'll get live score updates for it, if it hasn't you won't. Obviously the more powerful your PC, the faster it processes the other games, so the more likely you are to have the live scores available. For those that are moaning, the alternative is to have a long pause before each match so that the other games can be processed in full, which is a long way from ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shottaz Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hate to say it, people with PC's made of wood are welcome to play, but please don't request features that allready exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hate to say it, people with PC's made of wood are welcome to play, but please don't request features that allready exist. i agree, please search for fully working features before judging them on your rust can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeshy Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hate to say it, people with PC's made of wood are welcome to play, but please don't request features that allready exist. No need to be rude. I don't get to use this feature, and it is frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I have 3Gb of ram, so its hardly made of wood. Its not my fault FM is required to run on a Laptop with at least 4Gb of Ram and also requires you to make sure you're not running anything else in the background is it to get the 3D match engine working fully And THERE IS NOT A LIVE GOAL UPDATE FEED/VIDIPRINTER that I suggested above so I wish people would stop saying it is a feature already in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicesterFox Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I think the OP is a really good idea and one that wouldn't be that hard to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
impirion Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I have 3Gb of ram, so its hardly made of wood. Its not my fault FM is required to run on a Laptop with at least 4Gb of Ram and also requires you to make sure you're not running anything else in the background is it to get the 3D match engine working fullyAnd THERE IS NOT A LIVE GOAL UPDATE FEED/VIDIPRINTER that I suggested above so I wish people would stop saying it is a feature already in place. I thought there was one, and I have only 2Gb of RAM, and it works for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsch Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I have 3Gb of ram, so its hardly made of wood. Its not my fault FM is required to run on a Laptop with at least 4Gb of Ram and also requires you to make sure you're not running anything else in the background is it to get the 3D match engine working fullyAnd THERE IS NOT A LIVE GOAL UPDATE FEED/VIDIPRINTER that I suggested above so I wish people would stop saying it is a feature already in place. There is in the TV view, which you can set up for 2D, have you tried that? It's not your RAM that does the processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Well my laptop did cost nearly £500 2 years ago you would think that it would suffice for a game that is mostly based around text and menus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMatt7 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I only have 2gb of ram and a mediocre processor yet I can view the latest scores :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsch Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Well my laptop did cost nearly £500 2 years ago you would think that it would suffice for a game that is mostly based around text and menus. The key words being "2 years ago." Also, have you tried the above suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 The 2D TV View still runs quite sluggish compared to the original view. Its just one of those sacrifices that I have had to make to play this excellent game. I would have hoped that live scores would have been easy to implement though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsch Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The 2D TV View still runs quite sluggish compared to the original view. Its just one of those sacrifices that I have had to make to play this excellent game. I would have hoped that live scores would have been easy to implement though I seem to remember you can have a split view, with one showing the match, and the other showing a bunch of things, one of which was latest scores. Edit: I just checked. There is and it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malleria Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Have to say never had this problem, goal updates works perfectly for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Wilson Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I seem to remember you can have a split view, with one showing the match, and the other showing a bunch of things, one of which was latest scores.Edit: I just checked. There is and it works. Thanks for your comments I will try them when I get home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fart Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Dude... if your laptop cannot currently handle a simple live goal update feature, how do you expect it handle a more advanced vidiprinter? They may incorporate a vidiprinter into a new game but you still won't be able to use it... Unless you increase your processing power of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo1986 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'm with the OP... this feature does need improving. I wish people would actually read what is posted, rather than just the first sentence before ejaculating vitriol all over the boards. I've got a brand new laptop with 3GB of RAM, dual core processor etc. and it doesn't seem to operate the latest scores feature properly, often showing games as yet to kick off despite playing at the same time as my own game. I like the idea of scores scrolling across the bottom, hey why not go the whole hog and get Jeff Stelling to read out all the latest scores?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I like the idea but isn't there a widget for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucatonix Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Yeah but if you don't want to play it in TV view, its a useful feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerhgrrrrrr Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Agree with the OP - as long as it doesnt slow the match action down too much. In 3d I have the League table widget open but it often is "wrong", not updating in real time. Be nice if it centred on the Team (MIne!) involved too, if I am fighting relegation each update chucks me back up to the top four about whom, frankly my dear, I dont give a damn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic2006 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Have to say never had this problem, goal updates works perfectly for me. Yup, no problems here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I really like this idea!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Well my laptop did cost nearly £500 2 years ago you would think that it would suffice for a game that is mostly based around text and menus. Firstly, laptops never have the processing power of a desktop. You've sacrificed speed for mobility. Don't expect it to be fast. As a result, you don't get all the bonuses of nice fast background processing on matchdays. Secondly, £500 isn't going to buy you top of the range specs anyway. Perhaps with a desktop (home-built with recycled parts like the keyboard, mouse, screen and case already being there waiting for you) but certainly not a laptop. Thirdly, a two year old machine's price at the time is irrelevant. If it's Intel, is it a core 2 processor? If not, you are also using older architecture, or architecture made for mobility, low power consumption and low heat, not for speed. Fourthly, how does the fact it's mostly menus and text change anything? I dare say the most powerful machines on earth right now are dealing with text, numbers and either menus, or even command line inputs. Just because it isn't pretty, flashy and graphical doesn't mean there isn't a huge amount of calculations being done in the background. So, finally, SI have three choices: 1) Leave it how it is. Useful for those who can use it, not so useful for people with slower machines, 2) Force you to wait on a "loading other results" screen before launching your game if your pc isn't fast enough, or 3) Lower the number of calculations used, lessening the accuracy of results predicted, making the game less realistic, and basically taking a few leaps backwards just to accommodate a slower machine. You also have three choices: 1) put up with it 2) get a better machine, or 3) go play an older version which will run better on your older hardware, or skip the game altogether. That said, in-game score updates in classic mode would be nice for those of us who's machines could handle it, but prefer classic mode's look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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