Pretended Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Since reputable developers of Football Manager seem to have given us the chance to fine-tune the size we'd like our database with the latest incoming beer-snack-girlfriend consumer, I guess we need some kind of collaboration in order to set an unofficial standardization. In order to get the most while trying to avoid bloating and minimize the "I don't see him in my game" feedback, I'd like your opinions on what fine-tunings (e.g. Player with national Repuation > Africa) we'd better be trying to reach the goal. Thanks in advance. Footnote: Spanish League with all Players With National Reputation from all Continents make more than a hundred thousand players whereas the game speed got a rating of half a star on a PC which has Intel Core i7 920, 2 GB DDR3 RAM, Win XP SP3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I don't recommend it. This version of FM either has a memory issue or its very heavy on memory usage. I tried loading all leagues, half on view only, and all current internationals from the major continents and it gobbled up 2 gb of ram and promptly crashed. I have chosen to load NO additional players, with 90000 in play currently and it has again doubled in size after only 5 matches played to over 1100mb of ram in use. I expect a crash soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretended Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Har. Can be classified as a bug or an unpredicted consequence ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Har. Can be classified as a bug or an unpredicted consequence ? Bug I think, since so many people are complaining of cras dumps and memory problems this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I don't recommend it. This version of FM either has a memory issue or its very heavy on memory usage. I tried loading all leagues, half on view only, and all current internationals from the major continents and it gobbled up 2 gb of ram and promptly crashed. I have chosen to load NO additional players, with 90000 in play currently and it has again doubled in size after only 5 matches played to over 1100mb of ram in use. I expect a crash soon. Really? I selected a large database and then manually told the game to load all players from every continent (added each one separately) and even with something like 350,000 players loaded it runs perfectly smooth and I am in to the 3rd season now with no problems at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Really?I selected a large database and then manually told the game to load all players from every continent (added each one separately) and even with something like 350,000 players loaded it runs perfectly smooth and I am in to the 3rd season now with no problems at all. How much ram is FM.exe using in task manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretended Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Windowed mode, actively using it, 370 MBs of RAM currently here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 How much ram is FM.exe using in task manager? Just over 800mb, however I have 9Gb of RAM so its bugger all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretended Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 So this idea is postponed until the issue is solved or are there ones willing for it right now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Just over 800mb, however I have 9Gb of RAM so its bugger all really. Yeah right. Loading all 300, 000 players would use 1gb at least just to start with. As for 9GB of ram .. lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglealan64 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Just over 800mb, however I have 9Gb of RAM so its bugger all really.What Operating System are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
realzealman Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 As for 9GB of ram .. lol. Ever heard of i7? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 There will likely be a limit of how much the game can address. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I've been playing with this, too, trying to come up with a custom database that balances long-term playability and speed. (Started with EPL as only active league, with large database.) Loaded "all European players with national" reputation, which gave me an estimated 85,000 players. Did the same with "all European players with continental" reputation, which gave me an estiamted 83,000 players. Did the same with "all players based in Europe" and it estimated 194,000 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I'm currently playing a game with all players in the db loaded (I downloaded an African players db so I have a few thousand players more than in the out-of-the-box db). I think it was 295,000 players It's running quite well with 126 leagues loaded as well as long as you don't have too many leagues in full detail. I use Windows Vista with 4GB of RAM and a 2.2GHz Dual Core processor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 How many seasons into your game are you? Is it slowing down? I'd like to play a European-heavy database, as I prefer to bounce around from top- or middle-reputation European leagues and want a good broad database for a long-term game. Was thinking of loading players by reputation - national & continental - that would be most appealing to me in those caliber leagues (no need for LLM reputation players). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Well I'm only two months into the game (game time around 15 hours because I spent several hours scouting for players on the first day ) so it might slow down quite a bit in a couple of years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 That's very ambitious, but a great test of your PC and the FM system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 And it's awesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I'll bet... And your scouts must be very busy, scouting every last single footballer for the next big thing. Do you play lower reputation leagues? Top leagues in the world? A mix? I just hope your save keeps going so that you can enjoy the depth of that database/world! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Has anyone else crafted a large database game? What did you do, how many players & from where? How's it running for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I'm currently managing in the Danish second tier so I can only scout Europe but in 2-3 years I'll be scouting the world! And the leagues I've loaded are the top league or the top two leagues from most countries (including a lot of extra leagues I downloaded) because I am a stats nut just knowing that I'm able to see who became top scorer in the Armenian or the Algerian league is makes me happy inside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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