Galo Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I am a little lost on how this feature works in game. To be honest I have never understood this in all the versions of the game I have ever played, I just now remembered to post a question on it. When you go to sign a player and in particular a new staff what difference does it make if the contract is part time or full time? My obvious conclusion would be that the part time coach would be around less, but what effect does that have on the team or his ability? Are there any advantages to signing somebody on a part time contract vs a full time contract? It seems whenever I manage a lower league club, which is most of the time, most contract offers are set to part-time by default. Usually I change that to full time. I would greatly appreciate any insight into this and how it affects the players and staff. Thanks for the help....and FM 2010 is a blast!! Best version by far...and I have been playing this series of games since 1997. I don't even post very often....check out my join date vs my number of posts But I do have to say that this year SI have really outdone themselves. Nothing like a little competition to light a fire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think the main thing is that part timers have less time to train so are slower to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 As Michael posted, I believe its affect how fast a player will improve due to how much time will be used for training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galo Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 makes sense. What about staff? How does part-time affect them? Also, what advantages are there to a part-time contract? I can see how a 14 year old would prefer one but why a 28 year old? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Staff wont be around as much to train players, so I would imagine their effect of full-time contracted players would be less Game-wise I dont think there is any advantage tbh In the real world, part-time contracts are usually for wages below a certain level, allowing the player to also have a "day-job" as main income Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooKaJoo Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 if you are a lower legue manager, i mean very low like blue square south north, you might not have a profesional squad, and most staff and team members will be part tim or amatuer, with only a hand full of ful timers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyscarab Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 if you are a lower legue manager, i mean very low like blue square south north, you might not have a profesional squad, and most staff and team members will be part tim or amatuer, with only a hand full of ful timers Yep. Also at that level, most staff don't want a full time contract. I've found that there's a big difference in training levels when you go from part time to full time. Especially if your coaches have good determination / motivation / adaptability skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico_b Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Its also to do with money, as lower league clubs cant afford to have 30 players and 10 staff on full time wages, until you go up the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHairyAndy Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 In the real world, part-time contracts are usually for wages below a certain level, allowing the player to also have a "day-job" as main income In a lot of real-world cases, they're also for players who have a career outside football. The best-known recent example was probably one Dr. Kenneth Deuchar. Quite a lot of football players in the lower leagues have professions - teachers, lawyers, policemen - that they wouldn't want to give up to play football full-time. It was reported here that even when Deuchar went to Real Salt Lake, one of the factors in his decision was the ability to continue practicing medicine at the local hospital. In Scotland, you also find that the top part-time players (like Deuchar) will command higher wages than the lower-standard full-time ones. From what I've seen, that doesn't really translate into the game though. Basically in FM it seems to be (anecdotally; I can't speak with any authority at all on the subject) that part time players will develop less and be less fit, part time coaches will have less influence on the players' progression, but the tradeoff is that both are cheaper than the full-time equivalent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 That would be true, but I was referring more to the larger amount of cases Since in FM, only the football world exists it cant really emulate players like Deuchar, unless something is added into the database that has a player refusing to ever accept full-time contracts (tbh, not really impossible but is it really worth the time and effort?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canispeaktodave Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'm some team in Portugal in the second division. There is no wage difference between part-time and full time. So what is the point of part-time if they accept a full-time contract of the same value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recury Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'm some team in Portugal in the second division. There is no wage difference between part-time and full time. So what is the point of part-time if they accept a full-time contract of the same value? Sign them all for full time then, but in my game if I try to sign someone for part time they demand less. Not always a lot less though, in which case I go for full time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshpmilton Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 That would be true, but I was referring more to the larger amount of casesSince in FM, only the football world exists it cant really emulate players like Deuchar, unless something is added into the database that has a player refusing to ever accept full-time contracts (tbh, not really impossible but is it really worth the time and effort?) I guess it depends on how realistic you want it. I know a few Lewes players when they got promoted to the Blue Square Premier left as they did not want to have to commit to full time/national football as they were only playing for the pleasure as much as anything else so when they went up they went elsewhere in the Blue Square South. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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