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Ok, Real Madrid update using V4.0. Clean sweep. I won the Champions League, La Liga, Spanish cup, Spanish super cup and Raul got golden boot. I only lost 3 games in the entire season and that was after 2 champions league semi finals where i played a virtual reserve side and away to Barcelona after the league was already won. Version 4.0 is sensational Raul playing as the AMC runs the show, Robinho is excellent on the counter attack because of his pace. I'm going to test these tactics at lower league level just to see how my team will do, again Kimz excellent work.

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just annoying that youve been spamming your site around and its not working :p

Youve registered a domain now get a decent host :)

Bascially just wnna know the types of players I should play in v3 epesh at fr/l

use winger players for FR/FL slots, see full description on my homepage, its up now :D

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Started a new game as Dundee Utd, Mixed results so far during pre season and the first few SPL games. Beating the smaller teams no problem. Lost 4-2 to Celtic at Paradise but i beat the huns 2-0 at Tannadice. Sitting 3rd, 4 points behind Celtic and 2 behind the huns. Walloped St Midden 6-1 at home. Noel Hunt has scored quite a few and Barry Robson in the AMC has also added a few. I'll report more either at the end of the season or half way through.

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Started a new game as Dundee Utd, Mixed results so far during pre season and the first few SPL games. Beating the smaller teams no problem. Lost 4-2 to Celtic at Paradise but i beat the huns 2-0 at Tannadice. Sitting 3rd, 4 points behind Celtic and 2 behind the huns. Walloped St Midden 6-1 at home. Noel Hunt has scored quite a few and Barry Robson in the AMC has also added a few. I'll report more either at the end of the season or half way through.

like previous version, ai will get used to our tactic after many games, switch between version is the only way to perform constantly

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I am using V1.1 which suits the players I have but having mixed results. Help needed.

if you need good long run result, you should switch between versions (1.1 2.1 3.0 4.0 are recommended)

to use v1.1 or v2.1, you need 2-3 new AMC players, pure AMC if more effective rather than FC or winger.

most of all try to find excellent gk and 2DC for your team, you wont be conceded a lot.

hope it help ;)

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if you need good long run result, you should switch between versions (1.1 2.1 3.0 4.0 are recommended)

to use v1.1 or v2.1, you need 2-3 new AMC players, pure AMC if more effective rather than FC or winger.

most of all try to find excellent gk and 2DC for your team, you wont be conceded a lot.

hope it help ;)

Cheers. Just want a few wins. Drawing all the time. I concede right at the end of the game. See my private message for my team.

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Can you tell us about new version?

as i described on my homepage, v4.0 almost same as v3.0 except it has 2 forward

if you are striker lovers :D or only have 2AMC this tactic is more suit for you rather than v3.0

its just give you more option and variant

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Cheers. Just want a few wins. Drawing all the time. I concede right at the end of the game. See my private message for my team.

to hold your win, use v1.1 and remove fullbacks farrow after +- 70 min

or use v2.1 and remove fullbacks and DM farrow

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as i described on my homepage, v4.0 almost same as v3.0 except it has 2 forward

if you are striker lovers :D or only have 2AMC this tactic is more suit for you rather than v3.0

its just give you more option and variant

:D:D

I want to konw how to use the right player in each location

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Why is this seemingly the best user-created tactic in FM08 history for everyone except me

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Three things seem to hold true with every game I play using either 3.0 or 1.1:

- I have 3x to 4x as many total shots as my opponents

- I have 2x to 3x as many shots on target

- I fail to win

I've only played 25 games of the season so far, and already with just a cursory flick through my fixture list I can pull out vast swathes of games that I have dominated and lost

Somebody throw me a bone, for goodness sake. I must be doing something wrong. There is too much positive feedback in this thread for it to be the tactic's fault. I've bought the best players I can, am using them in the best positions for their strengths, I'm using opposition settings as instructed, what else is there?

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why

Why is this seemingly the best user-created tactic in FM08 history for everyone except me

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Three things seem to hold true with every game I play using either 3.0 or 1.1:

- I have 3x to 4x as many total shots as my opponents

- I have 2x to 3x as many shots on target

- I fail to win

I've only played 25 games of the season so far, and already with just a cursory flick through my fixture list I can pull out vast swathes of games that I have dominated and lost

Somebody throw me a bone, for goodness sake. I must be doing something wrong. There is too much positive feedback in this thread for it to be the tactic's fault. I've bought the best players I can, am using them in the best positions for their strengths, I'm using opposition settings as instructed, what else is there?

I was using these tactics for around 2 seasons in the prem with my newly promoted team, with similar problems to what you are having, i kept thinking of trying a different tactic but due to the comments on this thread i decided i'd stick with it, then all of a sudden the tactic just came to life with pretty much the same squad of players, last 4 seasons i've won the prem 4 times 3 FA cups, 3 league cups and 3 champions league trophies.

Team talks are important, at home if i'm favourites i choose i expect a win, which i choose now in every home game due to the fact i'm always favourites, away from home i always choose for the fans and any players with a morale lower then their team mates i choose have faith, at half time if i'm winning by a single goal i choose encourage and have faith with players with a rating of 6 or less, if i'm winning by more than one goal i choose pleased and have faith in my striker, if i'm losing by a single goal i choose disappointed and if my striker is on a rating of 6 or less sub him and choose have faith for player coming on, losing by 2 or more then embarrassing i was a normally choose but its very rare that i'm ever in that situation.

I use version 3.0 at home and away but against tough opposition away i use version 1.1 but i tick counter attack lower mentallity by a couple of notches aswell as tempo and defensive line.

I've also downloaded another tactic from someone else which to be honest wasn't that great but his corner routine was even better then Kimz tactics, and i'be basically just impemented that corner routine into Kimz tactics in where by Centre back gets around 50 goals a season in all competions.

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Version 4.0 is pretty solid for me, I'm always doing above the lowest expectations and that's good enough for me.

(Like I got promoted to L1 and quite obviously was the main candidate to be relegated, but I finished 12th)

Although I don't really manage the team, I just buy the players and take go for holiday for 1 day when the match day comes :)

But, like always , very attacking tactic and you concede a lot too.

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This has got to be the most over hyped tactic ever. Take out the corner tactic which works on all tactics and you've got nothing.

I've used this as Everton without cheating to buy loads of world class players as most do and it does no better than 5th. If you are doing well with this as a non super-team let me know how? I've tried it for 3 seasons now until I was sacked.

The tactic is defensively horrible and your striker score less than 15 a season.

How???

I've used 1.1 and 3.0 as people seem to recommend. I have reasonable success at home but can't remember ever winning away.

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This has got to be the most over hyped tactic ever. Take out the corner tactic which works on all tactics and you've got nothing.

I've used this as Everton without cheating to buy loads of world class players as most do and it does no better than 5th. If you are doing well with this as a non super-team let me know how? I've tried it for 3 seasons now until I was sacked.

The tactic is defensively horrible and your striker score less than 15 a season.

How???

I've used 1.1 and 3.0 as people seem to recommend. I have reasonable success at home but can't remember ever winning away.

Lot of pish, i played a game with Everton and Yakubu was banging in 30+ a season. Defensively its not the strongest tactic but who cares when your out scoring the opponents.

The only thing that cost me the Premiership was Tim Howard going to play games for the USA leaving me with no back up keeper and Chelsea beating me 4-3 or I'd have won the league as well as the FA cup and Uefa cup.

I'm playing a game right now with Dundee Utd and switching between v1.1 and v4.0 and i'm 4 points behind Celtic with 5 games to go. I'm just into the split and looking at a Champions league place finish. I've beat Rangers 3 times already using Kimz tactics and only lost to Celtic once away.

It must be something your doing wrong because I've had nothing but success using these tactics.

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I hate posting on stuff like this. Why do you guys test all new tactics with top sides such as Man U, Chelsea, Inter, AC Milan, Barcelona. Obviously they are going to work with the players you have. Im currently in the championship playing as Sheffield Wednesday in 9th place using this tactic. It's a 50/50 every game. I have 20+ shots more than the opposition and still i scrape a win or draw. I keep leeking goals with version 4.0 but luckily im scoring a few with the amount of shots. How do i stop this goal leaking. My defence is terrible. Can you suggest some good cheap defenders that are good enough and maybe a keeper. Im in my first season.

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Lot of pish, i played a game with Everton and Yakubu was banging in 30+ a season. Defensively its not the strongest tactic but who cares when your out scoring the opponents.

The only thing that cost me the Premiership was Tim Howard going to play games for the USA leaving me with no back up keeper and Chelsea beating me 4-3 or I'd have won the league as well as the FA cup and Uefa cup.

I'm playing a game right now with Dundee Utd and switching between v1.1 and v4.0 and i'm 4 points behind Celtic with 5 games to go. I'm just into the split and looking at a Champions league place finish. I've beat Rangers 3 times already using Kimz tactics and only lost to Celtic once away.

It must be something your doing wrong because I've had nothing but success using these tactics.

Break it down for me then, I must be doing something wrong.

1 - Do you use the same version at home and away?

2 - Do you change anything according to the opposition?

Games like Wigan away, West Brom away and Portsmouth away are the ones I have most difficulty with.

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Break it down for me then, I must be doing something wrong.

1 - Do you use the same version at home and away?

2 - Do you change anything according to the opposition?

Games like Wigan away, West Brom away and Portsmouth away are the ones I have most difficulty with.

1 - I change between v1.1 and v4.0 but i use both at home and away, if I'm at home I'll use v4.0 more no matter who the opposition are but if I'm away to Man Utd or the big 4 I'll use v1.1 or to defend a lead I'll use v1.1. Wigan and Portsmouth are the same 2 teams that caused me problems also but if you cant break them down with one tactic switch to the other after say 60 mins and 90% of the time it works for me. When using v4.0 its ideal if your AMC has blinding pace, use Tim Cahill or Andy Johnson.

2 - I don't change anything no matter who the opposition are, i play my tactics to suit my team. I'm playing as Dundee Utd in the SPL just now, went to Ibrox to play Rangers i used v1.1 and quickly took a 2-0 lead. I changed right away to v2.1 and removed the arrows from the full backs and DMC's and ended up winning 3-1. So if any changes or tweaks then thats the only ones.

I don't know why its not working out for you to be honest, but if your really stuck and still cant win then ask the assistant manager to select your team and do your team talks so you get used to the team selection and see what the assistant is saying before doing it yourself.

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Unbelievable. These two consecutive games have basically just cost me the league title.

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Shots for me: 63

Goals for me: 5

Shots for opposition: 12

Goals for opposition: 7

I have to take my hat off to this tactic, it's far and away the best at generating chances I've used so far in FM08. Unfortunately it just seems incapable of actually outscoring the opposition, which is kind of the more important thing.

Oh well, I didn't want to win the Premiership anyway.

Edit: bonus comedy material! Here are the very next three matches I play...

I get knocked out of the FA Cup:

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And I also get knocked out of the Champions League:

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I don't understand how this tactic manages without fail to crush the opposition but still somehow throw games away. Even if it had actually been designed with that express intention I would still be impressed, it does it so consistently.

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Unbelievable. These two consecutive games have basically just cost me the league title.

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ridiculousfailure1pn9.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ridiculousfailure2ne7.jpg

Shots for me: 63

Goals for me: 5

Shots for opposition: 12

Goals for opposition: 7

I have to take my hat off to this tactic, it's far and away the best at generating chances I've used so far in FM08. Unfortunately it just seems incapable of actually outscoring the opposition, which is kind of the more important thing.

Oh well, I didn't want to win the Premiership anyway.

Edit: bonus comedy material! Here are the very next three matches I play...

I get knocked out of the FA Cup:

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And I also get knocked out of the Champions League:

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I don't understand how this tactic manages without fail to crush the opposition but still somehow throw games away. Even if it had actually been designed with that express intention I would still be impressed, it does it so consistently.

i cant answer all of your question, to be successful in fm08 depend on a lot of factors :

- tactic

- team talk

- media comment

- player morale

- player quality

- analyzing ai tactics and tweaking yours

- picking the right player on each position

- etc

i dont know which one was that

according to your match result, your team conceded a lot

i suggest buy a new GK and 2DC whatever the price, spend all your budget to buy the best player you can get for that position......

i wrote it on my homepage already :

"These tactics can be classified as all out attack tactic, 2 at back and 8 players come front. This means that its so vulnerable by counter attack, especially when ai switch formation to 4-2-4 or 4-4-2 with farrow. Goalkeeper is the primary key to cover these tactic weakness. Many people complaining about leaking at defense, of course it is, its a gung ho tactic, players are all out attack." ;)

if you have 10 world class players but your GK is crap, you will achieve nothing with this tactic

hope it helps

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according to your match result, your team conceded a lot

i suggest buy a new GK and 2DC whatever the price, spend all your budget to buy the best player you can get for that position......

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if you have 10 world class players but your GK is crap, you will achieve nothing with this tactic

Kimz,

My two CB's are Micah Richards (£35M) and a Brazilian regen of similar ability (£30M). My goalkeeper is Ochoa (£35M). The Brazilian regen, maaaaaybe I could get someone fractionally better, but Richards and Ochoa are flat out two of the absolute best in the world.

Also, in response to this:

- analyzing ai tactics and tweaking yours

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the title of the thread say"kimz 8.0.2 tactic WITH NO TWEAK AT ALL!!!"?

Edit: forgive me if these posts have come across as an unwarranted attack on your work. I concede they are as much of a rant as they are an appeal for help. I'm just pretty frustrated that the tactic won't work for me. Enough people have said that it's a great tactic that I'm not going to contest that. :)

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Kimz,

My two CB's are Micah Richards (£35M) and a Brazilian regen of similar ability (£30M). My goalkeeper is Ochoa (£35M). The Brazilian regen, maaaaaybe I could get someone fractionally better, but Richards and Ochoa are flat out two of the absolute best in the world.

ok, its not your gk and dc problem, maybe other problem as i mentioned before

i dont know where is the problem unless you send your savegame to me

send it to megaupload / rapidshare and pm me the link, i will try to find your problem

Also, in response to this:

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the title of the thread say"kimz 8.0.2 tactic WITH NO TWEAK AT ALL!!!"?

Edit: forgive me if these posts have come across as an unwarranted attack on your work. I concede they are as much of a rant as they are an appeal for help. I'm just pretty frustrated that the tactic won't work for me. Enough people have said that it's a great tactic that I'm not going to contest that. :)

i had mentioned on page 10 (im not sure:D) that "WITH NO TWEAK AT ALL!!!" is death after 5th page :p

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I was using these tactics for around 2 seasons in the prem with my newly promoted team, with similar problems to what you are having, i kept thinking of trying a different tactic but due to the comments on this thread i decided i'd stick with it, then all of a sudden the tactic just came to life with pretty much the same squad of players, last 4 seasons i've won the prem 4 times 3 FA cups, 3 league cups and 3 champions league trophies.

Team talks are important, at home if i'm favourites i choose i expect a win, which i choose now in every home game due to the fact i'm always favourites, away from home i always choose for the fans and any players with a morale lower then their team mates i choose have faith, at half time if i'm winning by a single goal i choose encourage and have faith with players with a rating of 6 or less, if i'm winning by more than one goal i choose pleased and have faith in my striker, if i'm losing by a single goal i choose disappointed and if my striker is on a rating of 6 or less sub him and choose have faith for player coming on, losing by 2 or more then embarrassing i was a normally choose but its very rare that i'm ever in that situation.

I use version 3.0 at home and away but against tough opposition away i use version 1.1 but i tick counter attack lower mentallity by a couple of notches aswell as tempo and defensive line.

I've also downloaded another tactic from someone else which to be honest wasn't that great but his corner routine was even better then Kimz tactics, and i'be basically just impemented that corner routine into Kimz tactics in where by Centre back gets around 50 goals a season in all competions.

I do that exact same team talk!! hahaha

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I've also downloaded another tactic from someone else which to be honest wasn't that great but his corner routine was even better then Kimz tactics, and i'be basically just impemented that corner routine into Kimz tactics in where by Centre back gets around 50 goals a season in all competions.

what is this corner routine and where can i get it ?

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what is this corner routine and where can i get it ?

Cant remember the what the tactic was called that i downloaded that had the corner routine but i have the instructions wrote down, here they are:

DR - Forward

DL - Stay back

DC - Challenge GK

DC - Attack far post

AMC - Outside area

AMC - Attack ball from deep

AMC - Short option

FR - Stay back

FC - Attack far post

FL - Attack ball from deep

Corners delivered to 6 yard box

Notice this is my set up for Kimz version 3.0 but just copy them for all his versions.

The reason i believe it works so well are:

1) Having a player on short option makes the oppositon take a defender out of the penalty area reducing the amount of opposition defenders.

2) Having no one attack near post makes the AI defenders all stay either in the middle of the goal area or at the far post giving a clear flight of ball to the big centre half challenging the goalkeeper.

Again with any of these corner routines make sure the defender challenging the goalkeeper has excellent jumping heading and bravery stats mine has 20 in all of these exept jumping which is 19.

You also might want to adjust these to suit your team i.e have your best player at long shots outside the area and have your best crosser on short option.

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Ive read that a few people are having trouble with this tactic,,,i have to say it is very attacking and without a proper system to playing the games etc.. you will struggle,,,over the months using this tactic i have picked up my own system for playing the game and i have had every success with this tactic.

My system is this:

Have at least these Kimz's tactis - v2.1 with v1 layout (this is my main tactic imo the best),,,v2.1,,,v2.2,,(any of the others)

Get a great keeper,,,look for a keeper that is a leading player for that division,,a great keeper is a must.

Use a good teamtalk system (people have mentioned a couple on here),,,(ive noticed over the months that a good teamtalk is crucial)

During the game - give it 10 mins for it to settle down then check the match stats see how many shots youve had,,,(heres the crucial part),,if your having a lot of shots on target (more than off) leave the tactic as it is (eventually you may score) later in the game go more attacking (v3 and v4) if not.

(now for the bit that seems strange),,,If your having more shots off target (than on target) change the tactic to v2.1/v2.2 DO NOT GO MORE ATTACKING HERE (you will concede,,,this is why lots of people concede late goals) believe me when i say if your having more shots off target you will more often than not concede,,so change tactics (although all kimzs tactic are attacking if you switch to v2.1 the 2 midfielders are dropped deeper). Even coming to the end of the game if your still having more shots off target do not be tempted to go all out attacking it doesnt work imo,, just switch between v2.1 and v2.2 (believe me a draw at this stage is better than conceding late on). Even if you are winning the game switch tactics for more shots off target. Check the formations in the last 10 mins if the oppo go 4-2-4 then switch to a SUS tactic.

Ive been frustrated with this game from the start of playing it,,i couldnt understand the way you concede goals,,,but ive been using kimzs tactics plus this system (checking the shots on/off target and changing where needed) i have had major success and now the game is enjoyable.

Anyone struggling just try what ive mentioned for a bit see if you notice a difference,,(it may not be 100% foolproof but then what is).

Please dont slate kimz's tactics these are the most succesfull tactics i have ever used,,and kimz has made the game more enjoyable for me,,Thanks KImz

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I need an opinion Kimz...

I am switching between 1.1 and 4.0

In the 1.1 which uses 3 AMC's and 1 FC I use:

AMC® - Fernandez

AMC(l) - Aguero

AMC© - Messi

FC - Bianchi/Benzema

When switching to 4.0 I always am not sure about players who to put in FL, FR and AMC. The 2 FC's for v4.0 are Benzema and Bianchi... so for FR, FL and AMC... how would you situate Aguero, Messi and Matias Fernandez?

Thanks

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I need an opinion Kimz...

I am switching between 1.1 and 4.0

In the 1.1 which uses 3 AMC's and 1 FC I use:

AMC® - Fernandez

AMC(l) - Aguero

AMC© - Messi

FC - Bianchi/Benzema

When switching to 4.0 I always am not sure about players who to put in FL, FR and AMC. The 2 FC's for v4.0 are Benzema and Bianchi... so for FR, FL and AMC... how would you situate Aguero, Messi and Matias Fernandez?

Thanks

i will do this :

FC-L : Aguero, FC-R:Benzema

AMC/MC : Messi / Fernandez you can switch between that 2

for v4.0 that 4 pos (2FC AMC MC) are more important rather than FL FR pos,

put your best players for the most important pos

you can put any winger players on FL FR slots

hope it helps ;)

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Version 4.0 so far work great with me, thank Kimz!! \o/

Only 25 league games though with HSV, my friend play Bayern (he use his own tactics), and I'm currently leader of the Bundesliga with 8 points above him and Schalke (mine 65 points and they 57 points) \o/

Vaart works wonder at AMC position, played 20, scored 22, assisted 27, average of 7.82 ^^

Although my squads are change so much since I took control lol:

GK: No change, Rost did it well

DL: Ricardo Gardner from a free signing

DR: Paulo Ferrari, cheap and good enough

DC: Samba - Gem although he get injury for about 2 month :(

DC: Demichelis - 4M from Bayern :D My friend doesnt need him because he has van Buyten, Coloccini, Puyegrenier,...

MC: No change, de Jong

AMC: No change, super VAART ^_^

FL: Recoba from free signing

FR: Luis Gimenez (I sold my good AMR at some first day of season, because at that time (friendly stage) I play version 1.1, now I regret for that business T_T)

FC: Robert, cheap

FC: Guerro (is this his name, lol dont remember well now, but he did well)

P/S: We play quite slowly, just about 5-6 league games per night, so a season may last more then a week irl ^^

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Hm, The v2.1 tactic is a strange one for me, I win at home mostly but away.. im awful, no wins at all.. also this tactic gives away alot of penalties and booking.

I have tried the first one too, I couldn't score at all with it.

Team I'm using is Newcastle

GK-Given

DL-Enrique

DC-Taylor

DC-Coloccini

DR-Beye

DMC-Banega

DMC-Barton

AMC-Arshavin

AMC-N'Zogbia

AMC-Gutierrez/Barnetta

FC- Owen/Martins/Xisco

I'd try and use the 3.0 or 4.0 but i'm not sure where those players should be.

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Hm, The v2.1 tactic is a strange one for me, I win at home mostly but away.. im awful, no wins at all.. also this tactic gives away alot of penalties and booking.

I have tried the first one too, I couldn't score at all with it.

Team I'm using is Newcastle

GK-Given

DL-Enrique

DC-Taylor

DC-Coloccini

DR-Beye

DMC-Banega

DMC-Barton

AMC-Arshavin

AMC-N'Zogbia

AMC-Gutierrez/Barnetta

FC- Owen/Martins/Xisco

I'd try and use the 3.0 or 4.0 but i'm not sure where those players should be.

buy much better GK, imo Given is not good enough, buy lloris

for full description about using these tactics, visit my homepage

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Kimz, is the any chance of you making a tactic without the corner exploit? I'm a big fan of your tactic, as I win basically every game. But I think my defenders score too many goals, it would be interesting to see if you could design a tactic where it wasn't goals galore from player who have good heading skills. It would also pose a new challenge to the game, which is why most of us play it :)

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Personally I don't think corner exploit makes the game bored as I tend to play medium team and need that to win sometimes :p

And want to thank you again Kimz, lol my HSV got double in first season: Germany First Division (win the division when there are 2 games left, and finally 10 points over Bayern \o/), UEFA cup (win 4-1 over Everton at City of Manchester stadium). Shame out at Semi-Final Germany cup against Bayern after penalty shootout T_T!

He he, seems a bit whinning but I 'm too happy and cannot keep it myself :p

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Ah I forgot to add: Version 4.0 seems to has the most solid defense in all version I've test, always has the feeling of confident when the opponent comes to attack, not like other versions... Except when they turned to 4-2-4 then I have to switch to version 1.1 remove full back farrows.. In the league played 34 conceded 25, mean only about 0.7 goal a game (compare to 96 goals my team managed to score, nearly 3 goals a game ^^). It's extremely solid at home, only conceded 9 goals in 17 homes.

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gave this a test with my side in 2026, just came to a new team, so I got a good side, but not a fantastic side yet.

v 4.0 seems to work very well and seems to work better in the back. the other version I tested was v 1.1, which works well, but leaks a few more goals (but the player positions work better with my current squad).

I especially noted that the tactics leak a LOT of corner goals, so I will do some tweaking there.

will try to report back once I had a bit more time, unfortunately stupid work keeps sending me abroad at hte moment with no time to play via notebook on the road ;)

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Your tactic is probably immense for lots but all versions never seem to work for me

there are a lot of factors to be successful manager when playing this game, one of these is tactic

other factors are :

- players quality

- picking player on each position

- player rotation

- morale

- media comment

- luck

- captain

- team gel

- manager reputation

- team talk

- in game tweaking

- training

- coach and ass man

- etc

coz we play the same game and same patch imo your problem maybe not the tactic ;)

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EDIT: nvm, found it.

Hmm, v4 seems to suit my team now (Macclesfield) and I've noticed that v1.1 concedes alot of penalties.

I'm gonna continue switching between v4, v2.1 and v1.1

Mixed results so far. Always I lead 2-1 then immediately the opponent score to equalise then in the last 10 mins they score and win 3-2.

It's probably my defence though which is rubbish.

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