reli515 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 title of the file: i imagine some poor guy's wife not being too enthusiastic if she saw he downloaded a file entitled "sex! man city" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 If you have seen there is a basic principle followed in those tactics. Very Fluid, Fluid and ALWAYS Overload. Now I assume that in China from what I know people say tactic is 20% of a game rest is the players at your disposal. They also follow simple but effective principle like: Sell out all players who won't be used. If a tactic doesn't have wingers/DL/DR sell all wide guys because due to lack of play, they will destroy harmony at club . Seems to work fine. Used this for 3 seasons and it's a breeze. If anyone is interested I have a monstrous tactic to test: http://www.sendspace.com/file/z4u58v Mind you it may even not work with lower teams. However, with AC Milan thrashed Inter away 9-0. (proof: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ii0gjh (copy to My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2010\matches)). The tactic isn't mine. Found it some time ago, but was useless for me as I use Coca Cola teams . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini65 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 as arsenal, just got ouplayed at home by Wolves, scraping a 2-2 draw. Am i missing something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 have you made any changes grom the one you already posted or is it the same one/original Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini65 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 second game, just got outplayed at home again... this time by dinamo moscow, scraped a 0-0 draw... had 0 CCC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimness Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Sometimes tactics work from the start, sometimes not. But patience is always needed as after few games tactic's value is shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 You're using James_27 tac btw? Arsenal are VERY weak team on FM I find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Mr Hough, could you pm me your adjusted version if you don't mind. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 People should read: "The tactic is amazing due to some fun scores (like 5-0, 6-1) with 8CCC, 9CCC but still need some adjustments. AI often scores with crossing. I adjusted DC to Man Mark, lower DL to Normal and it seems OK. Good tactic!!!" The bold part especially. DL = defensive line if somebody didn't know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitjabarbic Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 the tactic is best tactic i have ever seen.......i only lost one match scored 61 goals in last 14 matches (conceded only 12) funny only defeat was against Chivas in world club championship HAHAHA...it was a defeat after penalties. Their regen keeper was amazing. They had 6 shots, only 2 of them on goal and i had 33 shots, 16 of them on goal....5 clear cut chances...their GK got 9,4 but f..k it aslong as i win everything else THANK YOU CHINA I mark tight their strikers and wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Any tips on how to avoid that number of goal this tactic conceeds. I always conceed goals, no matter the team I play!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitjabarbic Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 fast defenders and average DM... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersonn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Gİve us some tİps for thİs tactİcs please !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitjabarbic Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 and mark tight their strikers and wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reli515 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 This tactic is pretty absurd. Admittedly I have a very strong team in the save I'm using it in, but I've won the last few games by no fewer than 5 and as many as 9 goals without conceding. And the scoring is pretty balanced with my midfielders scoring a good portion of the goals as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I downloaded the tweaked one with the freekick & corner instructions set, I then dropped the defensive line so it was in the middle, and also switched the marking to 'Man Markin' - as suggested in post 28. I started a new game as Spurs, my team is: GK: Gomes DCl: Bassong DCr: Zapata WBR: Corluka WBL: Bale DMC: Gilberto Silva MC: Palacios MC: Henrique AMC: Modric FC: Keane FC: Defoe Game 1; Home to Arsenal - I beat them 4-1. Game 2: Away to Sunderland - I beat them 5-1 Game 3: Home to Stoke - I beat them 4-0 Early signs are very promising... everyone attacks and bombards the other team, somehow they all defend too - amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianPL Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 We are changing strategies in the match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner83 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Can someone link the newest updated version with the tinkering completed plz? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reli515 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 piece of cake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswibbs Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 can someone post the updated changes for this tactic plz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
njengamn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 the reason this tactic conceeds is it is on overload setting, a setting which works for now, so if you are winning you will just have to accept that you may win 2-1 and 4-3 and not 2-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I am managing an overachieving team, Grenoble (France, Ligue 1), and I'm being dominated in my test match. I am 2nd in the league so that shouldn't be happening. This may be a great tactic, but only with the right players if so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Etheirdge ! Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 How can you say this works... just played man city at home get beat 3-0, been using tactic with varied results but waited for this game. Everton CCC 0 - City CCC 5 What a load of..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersonn Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 this tactis is an average alternative tactic,not so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk54321 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Not as good as unbeatable. I have a very good Man United side in 2041 - won a lot of games 5-0 and 4-0 etc away from home but just got smashed 6-0 away by Inter and 3-0 at home by Coventry.. Not very solid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewBoy Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Not as good as unbeatable.I have a very good Man United side in 2041 - won a lot of games 5-0 and 4-0 etc away from home but just got smashed 6-0 away by Inter and 3-0 at home by Coventry.. Not very solid What is unbeatable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 What is unbeatable? This one: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=161126 It's obviously not unbeatable, but it's a very good tactic. Far better than this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 This one: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=161126It's obviously not unbeatable, but it's a very good tactic. Far better than this one. Totally AGREE!!! Unbeatable is clearly better both defensively (against strong teams lower DL to center, tempo to low, waste time and a back arrow on the DM C) and offensively (the oppo defenders can't seem to find a way to handle the five players upfront)!!! China 2 has a problem, as I seem to have lots of CCC coming from the strikers being on 1 on 1 situations with the keeper, and they just blast the ball against him! With Unbeatable my CCC's are coming mostly from wide passes/crosses coming from the wing both from the wingers or the side strikers, and looks like a lot easier situation for the center striker or the other side striker or the other winger to put it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Been doing great with Man City...Winning all last 6 games by at least 3 goals. But my stuttgart squad (PS 8 outfield players are new this year) are not doing so great. A bit of Hit and Miss...I will finish off this season as 1, 2 or 3rd...depending last 3 games. But I am certain that I need to play millions of friendlies before they gel to each other. More than half of my team don't speak german!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Personally, I prefer China 2 at the moment. I played my last china 1 games with Man City playing away to Chelsea and Arsenal and I couldn't defend the long shots against Lampard, or Arsenal.. With China 2, my lost are only away to Roma 0-2, and several 0-1 against other bundesliga teams! However I believe that a group of ppl who can't speak germans cannot gel together immediately! And I use China 2 in Man City and I did great. So great that I didn't want to play on anymore! The guy who designed China 2, managed Hoffenheim, a middle range team (such as Boro, or Villa), to win the league, and most importantly Champions League! My China 1, I managed only Stuttgart to reach the Semis of UEFA cup, which is quite good already as Stuttgart as currently in real life 3rd from the bottom!!! Lets test more guys. Some tactics just work immediately, some don't...this one is the latter one I guess?!... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimness Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Opposition crossing is devastating. Also this setup is proof that individual mentality doesn't override team mentality and they go hand in hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Good point there grimness I wanted to know it too. If I set individual player settings do I leave Team Setting at Defaults (ie Balanced + Standard? + default passing and other things?) or do I change it? If I change it will it override Individual player instructions? If yes, then sliders are pointless :/. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabulas4 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 you have a PM yes ym same y2jerikool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLeo88 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Great tactic!! First match = away against Villareal B 0 - 18 (can't believe it) Last match = away against West Ham 4 - 5 (defense too loose) Overall good tactic. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokkker Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 MikeLeo can you post screens with this results?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersonn Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 this tactic is crap..those who praise this tactic are fake members from chinese site... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 this tactic is crap..those who praise this tactic are fake members from chinese site... Thanks for your comment! It is very creative and shows a lot of your very deep personality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswibbs Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 not working go 2 up and the other team win 4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 You're crap manager if you don't even bother making tactic to suit your players . Seriously there is no "download and play" wonder tactic. There never was for FM games . That was aimed at andersonn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 This is a very strong tactic if you get the right players for it. There's only one big flaw: it's doing TERRIBLE against crosses. I lose like 90% of goals after an opponent cross. To make up for it, I score for fun - 7 straight league wins with Southampton, 21 goals scored. EDIT: 11 straight wins, 31 scored. And no, I'm not chinese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitjabarbic Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 i am not chinese aswell i guess players just have to gel together..maybe thats the reason why Man City cant be so succesfull with it.. Most of my players are together for 4 seasons or more so its easier to change tactic. This tactic suits my players best so its sucessfull.. (i lost 3 matches in more then 20 matches (against arsenal where 5 players were missing due to injuries or bans..., rest of them were just tired.., against Liverpool 0:2 in league cup semi final but i beat them 3:0 at home so it wasnt such a big deal..again my players were tired (i only have 18 players in my 1st team), and against Chivas in world vup club championship...just unlucky..lost on penalties..had more then 30 shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 You're crap manager if you don't even bother making tactic to suit your players . Seriously there is no "download and play" wonder tactic. There never was for FM games . That was aimed at andersonn. I tend to download a tactic and slowly buy players to suit it. The enjoyment for me comes through other aspects of the game, not tweaking tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Believe me you get more satisfaction using your own tactic then using others. Sure you learn a lot from other tacticans, but maybe that's just me. I am old CM player so may see it differently . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefannnnn Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 hmmmmmmmmmmm its very nice tactic i play marbiro in slovakia league and in away matches play very good but i home matches my maribor lose and lose ??????????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorcool Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 best tactic, they score for fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLeo88 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 MikeLeo can you post screens with this results?! Sorry don't know how to without upload somewhere else. this tactic is crap..those who praise this tactic are fake members from chinese site... I'm chinese so what the problem here. Here something I wish to share that I after my narrow win against West Ham 5-4. My games go bad with my players start elbows opponents and at least 1 men sent off per match. Not only defense is bad with opponents controlling games and score from crossing. corners and long shots. This is after changes to man marking and lower DL, still don't work. I thinks its time to some tweaking to suits my teams using a match against Chelsea. Original version - lost 1-3 with 1 men sent off. Theirs goals from crossing, corners and freekick. They control the games and I keep defends only. Tweaking done - Change strategy to attacking and when leading change to counter if opponent is stronger. I think the problem defense bad is due to overload strategy. Tackling changed to more cautious as my players act like gangster. They seems to defend better after tweaks. Ignore the OI as it only make yours players can't do his thing. Result wins 4-1 against chelsea and no red cards against me. Its just a suggestion and might not work with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Believe me you get more satisfaction using your own tactic then using others. No. I. Don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Well I'm a huge fan of China 1, a tactic that really has done wonders for me (playing lower league sides) and that makes very weak teams overperform!!! But motivated by the posts here decided to make an half season test with China 2, and very honestly simply can't make it work, even making all the suggeted twekings. The same team that was almost devastating to opposition teams with China 1 now seems lost, missing too many passes and unable to handle their wingers and strikers... What makes me mad is that I have no idea what I'm doing wrong... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefannnnn Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i told that its good for away, but in home matches i lose with poor teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaq12 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Please could somesone post the eleven players of hoffeneim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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