knap Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Still kooking at options so may not be final version -41212 4-1-2-1-2teamP101F91A18 _Chelsea_ May 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Knap, have you got a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 you are thinking of releasing or working on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Corkey Cleon has threads on both formations, have you not tried with those tactics? I will try the old classic Kimz formation 4231 at some point, but at the moment I've set up a revised 442 and will be testing that and the Oxford and diamond tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geol13 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 how about the Oxford main and the normal and the 61pts tactic(3 dif tactics)..?can I use them on holiday with a lower rep team?which one would u use on hol. in this situation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsken Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 how about the Oxford main and the normal and the 61pts tactic(3 dif tactics)..?can I use them on holiday with a lower rep team?which one would u use on hol. in this situation? When you guys go on holiday, do you mark 'Assistant manager takes control of team talks'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geol13 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 i don't remember..why?does it make such a big difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Any new game I set Ass Man for team talks,press, and arrange friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsken Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Any new game I set Ass Man for team talks,press, and arrange friendlies. Ok. What sort of attributes are you looking for when you are signing a assistant manager? Im going to give one of your tactics a go with Villareal, do you have any recomendations regarding version to use? Sorry for my bad english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 I very seldom change any staff. I do like the FM10 feature with recommended staff etc but I often look for ex players. My choice of formation depends upon players I either have at club or want to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsken Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I very seldom change any staff. I do like the FM10 feature with recommended staff etc but I often look for ex players.My choice of formation depends upon players I either have at club or want to buy. Thanks knap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr aok Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks knap, 442 doesn't work for me (as being a well known issue with fm10.2), but your 4-2-3-1 is fantastic, though corners are not working at all. I took privilege to edit your basic 4-2-3-1 according to corner theory. When before I scored only 1/15, now with the corner theory ratio is 9/15. Well, call it a cheat or bug, I'm happy to use this tweak Make sure to put your better header as DC Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/341939563/4-3-2-1-cornert.tac All credits to Knap! (edited DR to right DC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 I've not found a reasonale set up, so will try your set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carreiraana@hotmail.com Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 what is the best tactic for RM?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr aok Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Ups.. sorry, best header should be RIGHT DC not DR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geol13 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Problem..the gk comes too often out and when at att. corners there are not enough men at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 Not had a chance to have a look at set up, but in general you need to be careful at set pieces. When defending corners normally 3 up for counter attack but the AI will try overloading if needing a goal, which means a tactic adjustment. It would be easier to have a back if needed as with attacking corners. Often AI lurk player is marked by Tall marker, which pulls a CB out of box. Has been reported in bugs forum. In general the tactics have a 5 man wall but I've noticed this drop to 3, especially when AI score. Also reported in bugs forum. In general I prefer the more commanding GK element but the application IMO has been very poor. For RM the easy to use tactic is narrow diamond or the Oxford tactic which is an adapted wide diamond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Still kooking at options so may not be final version -412124-1-2-1-2teamP101F91A18 _Chelsea_ May 2010_.tac - 0.00MB I decided to change my tactic for the above one instead of the 4-4-2 Tottenham because I could not find any decent MR and Lee Martin was very inconsistent for me. I've only played 4 friendlies but my results are: Newcastle (A) 0-2 Kidderminster (A) 0-6 Crewe (A) 0-1 Dundee Utd (H) 2-0 I know its only 4 friendlies but the signs are very promising. I will let you know how I get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
v0lliz Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 where did you find the link to Narrow diamond 41212? found it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thanks knap, 442 doesn't work for me (as being a well known issue with fm10.2), but your 4-2-3-1 is fantastic, though corners are not working at all. I took privilege to edit your basic 4-2-3-1 according to corner theory. When before I scored only 1/15, now with the corner theory ratio is 9/15. Well, call it a cheat or bug, I'm happy to use this tweak Make sure to put your better header as DC Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/341939563/4-3-2-1-cornert.tac All credits to Knap! (edited DR to right DC) Hi Mr Aok, Could you please upload to a different host, because Im getting an overloaded server message at rapidshare or even send it to my email sg.aramis@gmail.com. Thanks Nevermid, I already get it gonna test it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 99pt Team based 442 ___________________________4-4-2BASE91CP99F96A25 _Chelsea_ May 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 4222 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Lovely stuff, when will you be puting the tactic up for download? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoliy Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 where is link for 4222 tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Laptop crashed so hopefully will post tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Team based 4222, same set up as 442 4321 and 41212 ___________________________4-4-2P99F96A254222P102F95A21 _Chelsea_ Jun 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexSkree Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Have u tried it with spurs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 I used a specific tactic based on deep lying forward for Spurs. I also prefer 442 for Spurs squad. Have you had any luck with TC or other tactics of forum.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexSkree Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I really like the new tactic outlet, not the classic. Have done ok with the vodu chaous and some other but after a while all of seem to stop working.. might just be me doing something wrong though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_R.U.F.C Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Knap i am guessing that the target man is on the right hand side in that 4222 tactic? Hard for me to understand seen as you do the tatcics in the classic mode, i'll give this one a go though thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataggy Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 there is no target man in the Team based 4222 he just uploaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista T Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hate to say it but anyone downloading tactics on this version of the game really shouldn't be playing FM XD. Nah, not really, each to his own but has anyone else found this version insanely easy compared to previous versions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 4132 Tactic with as many goals as pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsken Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 4132 Tactic with as many goals as pts. Can you please give me a link to that tactic? Cant seem to find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 4132 Formation - Uses 3 AMCs and DM so very attacking but can use the 41212 diamond to be more defensive. More defensive drop AMCs back to MCs. __________4132P103F103A26 _Chelsea_ Jun 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 104pt narrow Narrow Diamond __________4-1-2-1-2teamP101F91A18CFARp104f76a12 _Chelsea_ Jun 2010_.tac - 0.00MB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 4132 Tactic with as many goals as pts. its ok doing it with Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and even Spurs can you show us what your tactic would do like with a small team's like Burnley, Bolton, Hull etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 With smaller teams it depends on buying and selling players to develop a squad. Even with Spurs, although I try to keep as many of the original squad as possible, I strengthen the squad and this is what the game is about. With Spurs I also tend to use at least Home and Away tactics for first 2 seasons until the squad strength is good enough. Even lower league the aim is to build best squad in division, not find a tactic to win the division with the worst squad. I test in lower league just to find out if the quality of players at that level can use the tactic. With a smaller team you just need a tactic to allow time to squad build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcchampmanfan Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Couple of questions: How come with any of these tactics I don't have access to touchline instructions within an actual match? Also using the 442 Chelsea formation with the attacking left and right midfielders how come some players on the team screen have little green dots next to them, but the others don't i.e One striker has a green dot but not the other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8578 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Its because Knapp is doing the tactics in classic mode so no shouts, the green dot represents positon of the player, for example joe cole natural position ie amr and he can play amc but only accomplished rather than natural, hence the lighter green dot, and thanks for the tactics Knapp keep up the good work. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 mufc Rather than use touchline shouts, I prefer to adjust tactic and save that adjusted tactic (option tactic), say with a deeper DL and less closing down. You can access the adjusted tactic from the same dropdown box. With touchline shouts I would probably use a combination of shouts which is a bit of a pain and slow compared to changing to an adjusted option tactic. The other problem with touchline shouts, is that as soon as you overide settings within a TC created tactic the shouts do not change these settings. I would have preferred a dropdown box with the team settings so you could just change DL or tick Tight marking, but having an option tactic covers most situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcchampmanfan Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'll have to experiment with this then Knap. Really enjoying the 442 with the high up attacking left and right midfielders. Just sometimes the Assistant Manager makes recommendations during matches regarding passing, tackling, sometimes individual players. In other tactics a touchline shout could correct this, obviously now I know I'll have to go to tactics and move the sliders about a bit and save them as another tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bealesy Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 As you have probably read I have commented on using Knap tactics before and with great success. Well my pc crashed last week so I lost all my games so I had to start again. I decided this time to use the 4-1-2-1-2 tactic for a change and as you can see from the pic below it has been going very well apart from the friendly loss to Blackburn. I'm also using Bubba Bay Tuna Team Talks and Tugs Training with this tactic. I 'll keep you posted on how things go and once again Thanks Knap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcchampmanfan Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks for the tactics Knap. Just completed my first season using one of your 2010 tactics with my Manchester United side. I used the 442 with the attacking left and right midfielder formations. As you can see proved very succesful in the league. I also won the Champions League in a tough 1-0 game over Liverpool. Sadly got dumped out of FA Cup and League Cup in early stages in 'Embarrassing' as the Boad labelled them results. Hopefully they'll continue being successful in the next season. Roughly how long does it take for the AI to come up with a solution to your formation, team instructions and start beating you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 mufc That is probably the best League table I've seen! I often do not do well in cup games especially against low rep teams in FM10. I am not aware that AI crack tactics, however the game can give you bad luck and your team will give away pens miss easy chances, usually lasts a few games then it should go back to normal, but check any man management issues. The tactics which are team based are all the same basic set up if you need a change of formation. Did you score many from corners, if so, can you let me know corner set up as I still score very few from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks for the tactics Knap.Just completed my first season using one of your 2010 tactics with my Manchester United side. I used the 442 with the attacking left and right midfielder formations. As you can see proved very succesful in the league. I also won the Champions League in a tough 1-0 game over Liverpool. Sadly got dumped out of FA Cup and League Cup in early stages in 'Embarrassing' as the Boad labelled them results. Hopefully they'll continue being successful in the next season. Roughly how long does it take for the AI to come up with a solution to your formation, team instructions and start beating you? that looks good can you direct me to the right link please you are using please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcchampmanfan Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The tactic I used was the 4-4-2P99F96A254222P102F95A21 _Chelsea one. Only things I changed in it was move the team mentality up a couple of notches due to me having strong attacking players, so whole team was more attack minded. I then took Rooney and changed his individual settings, giving him much creative freedom and allowing him to take long shots. As I posted in the Man Utd Team thread in the Team forum, I had all my front men score 24+ goals during the season. Everyone in the squad bar the two goalkeepers and the right back contributed goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 The tactic I used was the 4-4-2P99F96A254222P102F95A21 _Chelsea one.Only things I changed in it was move the team mentality up a couple of notches due to me having strong attacking players, so whole team was more attack minded. I then took Rooney and changed his individual settings, giving him much creative freedom and allowing him to take long shots. As I posted in the Man Utd Team thread in the Team forum, I had all my front men score 24+ goals during the season. Everyone in the squad bar the two goalkeepers and the right back contributed goals. thanks will check out your team thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Luria Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Knap, I love your tactics, however; could you do a 4-4-3 like your Barca ones from FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewe_Alex Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yes Knap, the 433 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 I will have a try this weekend but the current ME prefers overloading the middle, so using 2 AMCs may be better than AMR/L. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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