Booooooom Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Okay, just curious, why on FM does the stadium exist in two forms, with either official name? Apparently Inter and Milan don't play at home on the same matchday in Serie A, but in Coppa Italia and Europe it's not the case, makes it a bit ridiculous if you want to add realism. Stadium name is San Siro, Giuseppe Meazza, and on FM it's San Siro for Milan and Giuseppe Meazza for Inter... Noticed this on a couple of versions I think, but as I recently started an Inter game it ****ed me off to watch Milan play twice cup games on the same ground as me on the same time...and it will happen when I reach February in CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I imagine its a fairly unique situation and possibly something that is fairly difficult to program in. Treating it as two separate stadiums is the most sensible solution rather than spending time on a very minor issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Well, even on FM: Olimpico: Roma & Lazio Luigi Ferraris: Sampdoria & Genoa OAKA: Panathinaikos & AEK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrustking56 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Yes, but is it worth a fix being brought in that would take (I would imagine) a large amount of time for something that has a simple work around of having two stadiums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think it's either a small mistake, or some copyright issues. Just want clarification. If the other teams can cope fine with sharing stadiums, I can't see why this is such a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid Army Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think it is because one of the teams calls it one name, and the other another. For example, say Inter call it the San Siro (could be the other way round). Then, if it is called the Giuseppe Meazza, all the Inter fans would get angry. It would take a whille to programme it to change the name depending on who is playing, and there would be problems if it is the Milan Derby or a neutral match, eg the Champions League Final with neither of them playing. Therefore, it is just but in the game as two different stadia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swed151 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 It's because Inter fans call it the Giuseppe Meazza in honor of the player of the same name who played for the team. Milan fans just call it the San Siro because why would they honor a player who played for their biggest rivals? While he did play for both teams, he spent a huge majority of his career with Inter. To keep that tradition, I suppose for SI couldn't program the same stadium to have 2 different names depending on who is playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 For stadium expansions, too, I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Leeds_Leeds! Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 This problem occurs on more occasions than just this. Sometimes when you get further in to the game, you will find a non league team who get promoted share the same stadium as a team from the coca cola leagues. I've seen on more than one occasian where they share the stadium but the details for the stadium are totally different, poor really.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 First of all, the paradox is that Meazza is an Inter legend, who spent 2 seasons at Milan and stated right after that it was the biggest mistake of his life joining them, most still call the San Siro. And you will hear plenty of Milan fans call it the 'Meazza'. It was called the San Siro until Meazza passed away almost 30 years ago, and the name change is still weird for the locals. Point is, it's quite dumb to have two different stadiums for one! Also, I noticed that on the examples I used, one of the teams 'owns' the stadium and the other one pays rent. This is 'cosmetic' to some of you, but it must be sorted out in future versions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukino99 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 The stadium's name is Giuseppe Meazza di Milano.... San Siro is just the district where the stadium is located. Booom I dunno where you got all of that.. but everyone just calls it San Siro... They call it Giuseppe Meazza just on tv. And i'm telling you this 'cause i've NEVER heard someone saying "we're going to the Meazza" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Lad Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 On an unrelated note, I personally think San Siro is one of the ugliest stadiums and you'd do well to get the board to build you a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBKalle Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Indeed, "Stadio Giuseppe Meazza" is the official name (introduced in 1980 according to Wiki), while the stadium had been known as "San Siro" for ages already. Thus, as lukino99 explained, the stadium is referred to as Meazza just in official occasions, but fans, players and pundits will call it San Siro 999 times out of 1000. Just rename it Stadio Giuseppe Meazza - San Siro and problem solved with zero effort. Apparently it's not unusual to see stadiums having two names: the official one and the common one... See also Genoa and Sampdoria's stadium. It's called Stadio Luigi Ferraris, but games are played at "Marassi" (once again the city district... see a pattern here? ). More or less it's similar to Sponsor-named stadiums and arenas (especially in the States)... The official name is there just for cosmetic (or economic) reasons, but the fans will always use the old name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 most still call the San Siro. And you will hear plenty of Milan fans call it the 'Meazza'. It was called the San Siro until Meazza passed away almost 30 years ago, and the name change is still weird for the locals. Erm, where do we disagree lukino? I don't live in Milano, but I heard quite a few call it the 'Meazza' everytime I've been there.(have been more than once if you want to point anything out ) But as I stated earlier, I did notice that most, perhaps 8 out 10, called it San Siro, and that's how I always called it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensar13 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 It is and it allways was: San Siro Inter official stadium is Giuseppe Meaza, and for Milan it is the original name: San Siro. But even the Inter fans as the rossoneri call him: San Siro. It is the same stadium, that has different name. But the problem is: that in the game the matches are played on the same stadium in the same time. So, can you put a code that move the matches on other days? Because it is unrealistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Is it really that big a deal? I'd rather they spend time on something else. Seems easy enough to program different days, but in congested fixture lists I can imagine it would bump things around so one of them end up playing consequtive days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Woodg SI Posted February 1, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted February 1, 2010 The different stadium names is due to differing licensing requirements from the two clubs. So we have to comply with these instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 explains that pretty well dont you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksquare Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 For stadium expansions, too, I'd imagine. So Inter would have a 90k stadium while Milan would stay at 82k? That would make no sense. Would the stadium grow for Inter matches and get smaller for Milan matches? Thats physically impossible. I could understand if you block off seats like they do in RL so its more compact. But that would be a more RL thing cause the game doesn't take that into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 So Inter would have a 90k stadium while Milan would stay at 82k? That would make no sense. Would the stadium grow for Inter matches and get smaller for Milan matches? Thats physically impossible. I could understand if you block off seats like they do in RL so its more compact. But that would be a more RL thing cause the game doesn't take that into consideration. No, because they are counted as two separate stadiums. It basically means that one team can expand, without the other team's permission, and the other team can't leech off the greater capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan999 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I don't think the name was the issue, more that home games for stadium shares happen on the same day, which makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnakai Haaskivi Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Zurich and Grasshoppers share Letzigrund in Switzerland; I always got the impression that the game didn't really acknowledge this. Stuff like "Zurich fans will have a long drive home" on derby day, for instance; the drive isn't long, you live here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 So would there be any harm to my game experience if I killed one of them and made them share the same stadium? Can a stadium that's owned by the local muncipality and where two clubs play actually get upgraded in FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makie1874 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 if you buy a ticket for a inter home game it says guiseepi meazza if you buy it for a ac game it says san siro The reason being is that guiseppi meazza is a inter milan legend and ac milan refuse to call it that when they play home games there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Well done for saying something that was stated weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Owl Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 On the first FM, I was Liverpool and had to share a stadium with Everton while the new stadium was built, they should look at the scheduling to make sure things like this dont happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 For the scheduling, it's actually unbelievably complicated! The Premier League fixtures are part-done by computer and part-done by hand - i.e. a human being has tinkered with them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html#097608 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/fixtures_questions_answered.html Trying to ensure Inter and Milan play "at home" on different days and so on is actually a very complicated problem. It is of little gameplay impact anyway by swapping some fixtures around - it's a logistics thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckz Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yes, but the game can deal with the problem in the fixture sense, as we see from all the above-mentioned clubs like Genoa/Sampdoria. That wasn't my question anyway, but thanks for the links . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic Sharples Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 This comes down to the fact that football teams from the same city do not both play home games on the same weekend!! And this more due to the police than the F.A. Say one is at home the other will be away or not playing irl! Manchester United and Man City dont play at home on the same weekend. Everton Liverpool dont play at home on the same weekend. So maybe this is something that FM can put in the game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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