Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 started off with cardiff and sold of a few players bothroyd : £2.5m ledley : £6m commingues £250k Capaldi £300k Gypesh : £500k kennedy : £210k brought in sarasola - £190k adam lallana - £2.5m gary hooper - £1.5m alex smithies - £1.5m lee naylor - (loan) Ramsey - (loan) koffour (free) marlon king (free) now looking at my team you would expect me to be beating teams lower than midtable championship. yet when team is on the attack, none of them can finish...... but as soon as the opposition get the ball they just score for fun. 2-0 up on scunthorpe within first half thanks to a penalty and a O.G then within seconds scunthorpe came straight back and scored 5 , then played colchester in the league cup. lost 4-1 i have tried all differant tactics reccomended ...... ANY IDEAS :|........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The game is more complex than buying good players. What tactics have you tried? More info needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Also, try the Cardiff thread in the Good Player & Team Guide part of the forum. You can see how others are doing with the same team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 ive doen things like shorter passing, more direct passing 4-4-2 4-5-1 5-4-1 4-3-3 i know its not about buying good players but when my attacking options are whittingham, mccormack, chopra, king, lallana, ramsey, burke, hooper you would expect to score more than 1 goal in 5 games from open play...(not including the O.G and Penalty i had against scunny) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 sorry for the spelling mistakes, keyboard is pretty smaller on this laptop than what im used to sorry guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubos Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Your tactic ain't good enough, and with multiple additions to the squad, they still need to gell. Give them more time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFCJack Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Try and be more consistent. Not only have you bought together a new bunch of players that need time to gel you have also started playing with your tactics. A good example from my experience in the Championship comes from Middlesbrough. Top 3 after Christmas with a long unbeaten run but then a few of my loan stars left and didn't return. I signed some more players and form dipped. It wasn't until I had a settled side with only small tactical tweaks that I got back my early season form to finish second. So my advice is pick a tactic and stick with it for 6 games and keep it fairly simple before becoming more fancy if you feel its working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Your tactic ain't good enough, and with multiple additions to the squad, they still need to gell. Give them more time. True to an extent, but I think it is more the fact that tactics are being changed to often, too often for the team to settle into them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 thanks guys, as i sold all my players for cash up front and bought the players for installments of 48months, i have around £4m in the bank, any ideas who i could use to strengthen, or should i keep it for january incase i need to strengthen then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 thanks guys, as i sold all my players for cash up front and bought the players for installments of 48months, i have around £4m in the bank, any ideas who i could use to strengthen, or should i keep it for january incase i need to strengthen then Depends on what your clubs finances are like? If your struggling then I would keep the cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Make sure your using the right team talk too as they make a huge impact http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=183599&highlight=teamtalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
typenamehere Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 In a few of my caridff saves i've found that the cardiff frontmen especially chopra dont really start getting into their stride until mid season. Who are you playing as your CB's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm sick of these threads always saying "its your tactics". Its not. Look at the career updates forums, they tend to use the same tactic all the time, so its not the tactics. Maybe the ME is causing problems but more likely you need to wait until the AI becomes dumber but its NOT your tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomer Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm sick of these threads always saying "its your tactics". Its not. Look at the career updates forums, they tend to use the same tactic all the time, so its not the tactics. Maybe the ME is causing problems but more likely you need to wait until the AI becomes dumber but its NOT your tactics. Yeah, so the career update people make a decent tactic, stick with it until everyone has gelled and buys/loans players that are good matches for their tactics. How does this lead you to believe that it's all sorts of problems except tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmack Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Takes me minimum of 10 games to settle 4-10 new players into a team to the point where they play to my tactics, this is assuming everything goes well (no red cards or 2.9 ratings for new players/original team players dont get angry at new players ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcutty Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Up the iron!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted March 1, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted March 1, 2010 If you're going to offload players and bring in a LOT of new ones then try and ensure you play a lot of friendlies before the season starts so they get at least a little used to playing along side each other, you'll find that initially they might not 'gel' - but be patient they'll get there (you sometimes get lucky and it just 'clicks' but often it doesn't for a while, sometimes never). Secondly try and keep a core of older heads in the team, especially if they've been at the club for a while - that'll help keep things settled and organised, if the players you're turfing out are also the clubs more experienced/respected professionals then you can obviously expect more disorganisation and disruption than if they were players with 'potential' who had only come through the ranks recently. PS - With loan players watch their 'attitude' and personalities also, less professional players who think their sh*t don't stink might not try as hard for a minor loan club as they might at their main team .... this isn't something which will help your performances particularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glamdring Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Got to agree with that. I've brought in a load of players at Plymouth, but one of the ones I went for straight away was veteran Paul Wotton who was Mr Plymouth until he left for Southampton in real life. My coaches said he was only leage 1 standard, but I didn't care - I wanted him to come in, play the holding midfield role, take on the captaincy and generally be a vastly experienced head and, despite technically being a new signing, a player who has been at the club for years. He was one of my best players last season despite the exciting talent surrounding him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Race 9 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 started off with cardiff and sold of a few playersbothroyd : £2.5m ledley : £6m commingues £250k Capaldi £300k Gypesh : £500k kennedy : £210k brought in sarasola - £190k adam lallana - £2.5m gary hooper - £1.5m alex smithies - £1.5m lee naylor - (loan) Ramsey - (loan) koffour (free) marlon king (free) now looking at my team you would expect me to be beating teams lower than midtable championship. yet when team is on the attack, none of them can finish...... but as soon as the opposition get the ball they just score for fun. 2-0 up on scunthorpe within first half thanks to a penalty and a O.G then within seconds scunthorpe came straight back and scored 5 , then played colchester in the league cup. lost 4-1 i have tried all differant tactics reccomended ...... ANY IDEAS :|........... a lot of changes there mate;) that might take time to settle down tactics could add to it ...and are you using the last patch:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULHOLMES Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I have had it take until January-February to have that number of players gel. You should check whether your ass man is still telling you that certain players are still finding it difficult to fit in. I also believe -- this is based on observation, not statistical evidence -- that playing the same basic tactic will help them gel faster; if you chop and change tactics you will start to upset the established players too. From now on, try to bring in max 4-5 new players each transfer window, and max 1-2 starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 thanks guys, as i sold all my players for cash up front and bought the players for installments of 48months, i have around £4m in the bank, any ideas who i could use to strengthen, or should i keep it for january incase i need to strengthen then Personally I would stay away from using the 48 months as much as possible. I would only use it to bring in a needed player who's slightly above my current budget (if my fianances are good) to finish off the transfer window, and always with minimum half up front, bringing in that many players on long term instalments can lead to serious financial problems down the line. As regards results, I would try a few trial games to settle on a tactic you like, and maybe to try out a few back-ups (for bigger teams or hard away games). I would also pick my first 11 every game possible until at least the end of October, then I would start rotating on a fitness and game basis, this gels the team better, and you have a set starting 11 for when you need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 thanks for all the advice guys, i was only using the "patch 10.2" on the "patch 10.3" none of these players can be offloaded for the price i tried to sell them for, so i deleted the save and started a new game......thanks for all the help though guys, used all the advice given for my new team "woking" and are very sucessfull at the moment with them, currently in league 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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