Andyprime Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Could somebody with time on their hands and understands how to use the editor create or just edit a country to be middle erath with teams and cities from the lord of the rings? the list of nations: Arnor Eriador The Shire Rhovanion Rhun Rohan (inc. Dunland and Enedwaith) Gondor Mordor Haradwaith and Khand Numenor Island Beleriand Valinor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 There are multiple leagues here, with fantasy structures and fantasy names. Perhaps you could look into those and see how they are made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluesigns Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Hobbits make rubbish centre backs. They're just no good at heading. Never mind, at least Gandalf can produce a bit of magic up front... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag the gr8 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Shouldn't Gandalf be in goal? 'You shall not pass' etc If somebody did make a database like this I would definitely play it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluesigns Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Bawbag, that is genius. I love the idea of a striker being though on goal, one on one, and Gandalf being off his line smartly with a booming, commanding voice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If we get a list of teams we would like to see added. And a proposed league structure, I wouldn't mind working on this. I guess we would need: -Places to include in Middle Earth. -Languages. -Teams (including nicknames, city, stadium name, colours etc). -People who we can actually include as players (or managers, or whatever) and anything else that people come up with. I don't mind putting this together, as I said, if others are willing to aid in the ideas =} Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Ideas enough, I presume. Each race or nation in Middle Earth could have their own continent, country, or team A lot of information can be found here: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Middle-earth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth_locations http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth_characters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Middle-earth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I did have the idea of replacing most of oceania with teams from here (small continent, shouldn't kill too many things, has a tie in with the films also ). there is a tonne of information here too on cities. It would all depend on just how far we want to go into this i guess. Creating a whole alternate reality continent might be a first! A tonne of work though. But I am playing a game with an enormous number of leagues and players atm, and loading time is a bitch, so I actually have plenty of time when playing. As soon as I have finished the Croatian league update I am doing i will be able to put my editing time towards this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Sangoma Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Shouldn't Gandalf be in goal? 'You shall not pass' etc If somebody did make a database like this I would definitely play it I would have thought that Gandalf would be more of a defensive midfield if he won't let people pass. Will the Orc team be based in Queensland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsson1888 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I've heard it all now lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Oh the things we will do for a bit of random fun =}. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I would definitely give this, a go, just joined, but I've created a Celtic Nations League, and a Brandenburg-Prussian Empire League. So I would definitely give this a go, if no one has any objections...? And sporadicsmiles, if you have already started this, would you want any help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I haven't, due to lack of replies from the OP. I didn't really wanna get all the research together, although I did get some preliminary stuff together. I would be willing to work on it tho, i think this would be the strangest edit i would have seen for FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Haha, same, the research, would be admittedly, extremely hard....:/ but if we got that out of the way, it could be just like editing any normal league structure...etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Well, I would be able to do the research quite easily. If we was gonna do this it wouldn't have to be superly detailed to start with. For example I have quite an extensive list of cities (both from the various books and from various role-play games), which could be used. We would just need a plan of what to include, and how to set it up i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I guess if we create two leagues (just a start up, structure/idea), using 18/20 teams in each, one for each of some major cities. Then we could either have the most important characters involved, as either managers, or the star players of each team, linked to their character? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wow i'd given up checking this due to v.little intrest! im a bit (ok a lot) of a geek when it comes to lord of the rings so i can tell you a lot but what due you need to know first? I was thinking a whole continent with different countries e.g. the shire, gondor each with there own nationalities and speach. also if it could be done (ive no idea ) hobbits and dwarves hights set lower, im only guessing here but is'nt that done to the chineese? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 It would be possible to do a whole continent, but it will be a heck of a lot of work. For starters we would need to replace the nations with the ones we want, add languages, remove all players with that nationality, add a large number of players of our own (for good regen names). Then add teams, league systems, continental and international cups, etcetc. The adding competitions bit is fine, I could do that with relative ease on with the advanced panel, since you can add more than one nation in a file. So we would need to make a plan of what to add. So, for a nation we would need: Name: Capital: Language: National colours: Then for each nation we would need players: Name: City of birth: Date of birth: Languages: Other nationalty: etc. and teams: Name: City: Stadium: Colours: etc. So, if we can start getting a decent list together I can start trying to put it together in the editor. =} Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 We could...if we get that information together, but it would be pretty simple, you just make a starting 16/18 and then we can add a load of random players, with some different names, and so on, so on, and randomizing their stats? What you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 And Andy, would you want basically the continent changing, editing the countries in, and each one having its own league etc? Then we could have a strange Middle Earth Champions League Haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Well i assume that even if you created players who are retired but of the correct nationality it would sort out the newgens okay. Not something I have tried before. Getting the information together shouldn't be too hard (for the most part). And I was thinking along the same lines, with the advanced panel we can make it so there is continental competitons for clubs, and a middle earth cup for countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Well, if we were going the simple way round, we could just change the Champions League (of whatever continent) to the Middle Earth Champions League, and the continental one to the Middle Earth Cup. If I was honest with you the easiest one to create this with would be Oceania, is has the least countries (apart from antartica of course), and some of the names could even sound Orcish, if we wanted them to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 yeah i think Oceania would be about right. I think for the humans it should be: Name:Gondor Capital:Minas Tirath Language:not sure National colours:I think some kind of white and black (thinking of the tower guard) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 It isnt that difficult to create stuff with the advanced panel. The main body of work on this is reworking an entire continent. If I were to think of nations of the top of my head, I would get: The Shire Northmen Elves Dwarves Rhun Rohan Gondor Mordor Harad Which is an irritating number, so perhaps split the elves into High elves and wood elves. Or add someone else. If people are serious bout this, I would suggest people take a nation, and put together the research for the things that need to go in it. So for example, we would need a list of cities, languages spoken, rivalries/good relations, a fair sized list of names (generic ones we can just add to the database so newgens/regens are named well), characters that could actually be put into teams. You could either add it all to the editor, and then at the end we can combine files. Or stick it all in a document (word or excel or whatever) and send it to whoever is going to compile everything. How does that sound to everyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 sounds fantastic, i'll make a start tomorrow and dig up some stuff, city names etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 ok heres a list of city naames for the shire: Breredon Bucklebury Budgeford Bywater Crickhollow Deephallow Dwaling Frogmorton Gamwich Greenholm Hardbottle Haysend Hobbiton Little Delving Longbottom Long Cleeve Michel Delving (Capital) Needlehole Newbury Nobottle Oatbarton Overhill Pincup Rushey Scary Standelf Stock Tighfield Tookbank Tuckborough Waymeet Whitfurrows Whitwell Willowbottom Woodhall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag the gr8 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Possibilities for nations, I've probably missed out some key places (Non-middle earth regions shown in italics): Arnor Dunland Ithilien Rohan Gondor Lindon Minhiriath Rhun The Shire Mordor Harad Numenor Beleriand Valinor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag the gr8 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Or you could use larger regions: Arnor (Rivendell, Bree, Weathertop, Angmar...) Eriador (The Shire, Lindon, Grey Havens...) Rohan (Isengard, Edoras, Helms Deep, Fangorn...) Rhovanion (Lothlorien, Moria, Dead Marshes...) Mirkwood (Dol Guldor, Carrock...) Rhun (Erebor...) Gondor (Minas Tirith, Osgiliath...) Mordor (Minas Morgul, Dol Guldor...) Haradwaith (Harad...) Then Valinor, Beleriand, Numenor etc if you want to expand it further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 the problem with Harad is getting city names as its not mentioned all that much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag the gr8 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 the problem with Harad is getting city names as its not mentioned all that much Yeah we would probably have to just put any places we know from the less detailed regions into nearby countries instead, and just think of it like Cardiff playing in the English leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Yeah we would probably have to just put any places we know from the less detailed regions into nearby countries instead, and just think of it like Cardiff playing in the English leagues lol good thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Perhaps the Hobbit and Silmarillion give more usefull information too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 more so the Silmarillion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Plus there is a tonne of role play games that, while not officially true, still have a lot of place names for places like Harad, and other such places. I did wonder whether we would include things from beyond the third age. A definite plan needs to be formulated, methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick134 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 this is totally crazy, which is why I like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Plus there is a tonne of role play games that, while not officially true, still have a lot of place names for places like Harad, and other such places. I did wonder whether we would include things from beyond the third age. A definite plan needs to be formulated, methinks. hmmm we could have things from before the third age like numenor and Beleriand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2397 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I've read 'The Hobbit', and there isn't much information in that, i think it has Hobbiton, and Esgaroth (sp?), I'll check the map in the front of it later... I think if we just used the larger regions would be the best idea, unless we used all the different races? sporadicsmiles, the advanced panel? I don't have this on my editor, I don't think? Which is strange... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 The advanced panel isnt activated by default, as it isnt fully functional. There is a thread on this board if you want to explore it further. The reason I suggest it here is you could make evrything, including nation rules, in one file. There is a great deal of information out there on the locations of various cities. It is then a matter of in which nation these cities shall go. I sugest the OP makes a list in the first post of what is decided on here, so things are easily seen and it is organised. Plus as this is his idea he prolly should get final say on what he thinks should go in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 im happy to take a back seat sporadicsmiles and just give info/do research Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Well, if you dont mind putting stuff in the first post, for ease of location when we decide stuff. So, collating what we have on nations: Arnor Dunland Ithilien Rohan Gondor Lindon Minhiriath Rhun The Shire Mordor Harad Numenor Beleriand Valinor A map of middle earth is going to useful, with the regions marked on it. Any other ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyprime Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Well, if you dont mind putting stuff in the first post, for ease of location when we decide stuff. sure pm what you want me to put Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 As soon as we know, I shall. I will put some thought into it tonight while listening to Huddersfield get to the playoff final =}. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamoW21 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 If it's any help guys: http://www.iconium.org/files/war_in_middle_earth_map.jpg There's a few LOTR name generators for different races out there on Google for when it comes to naming players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 That map is super =}. Should make it easier to define nations, cheers =D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawbag the gr8 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 That is a great map, and there are quite good maps for the other regions like Beleriand in the back of the Silmarillion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Ok, I have split this map into broad regions, based around but larger than the actual regions on the map. I haven't drawn around the shire, I forgot, but i would suggest making them a nation, since they are one. Here is the list of places I think should be used, and a link to the map i drew on. Arnor Eriador The Shire Rhovanion Rhun Rohan (inc. Dunland and Enedwaith) Gondor Mordor Haradwaith and Khand Numenor Island Beleriand Valinor. Does that sound like a plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booooooom Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 How about rivalries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Something we will have to put in when we create teams and nations. For example, Dol Guldur would be in Rhovanion, as would the wood elves (i forget they name of the place they live in in mirkwood). There would be obviously a fierce rivalry here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamoW21 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I found these on a site for a Total War mod site, could do nicely for nationality badges/logos: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5319/icons2.jpg Not the whole lot you'd need, but its a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I love that total war mod =}. If people wanna get involved in researching, then pick a country, let us know you are going to do it, and do it =}. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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