WestBromwichBrazil Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Purely player value or player value + finance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Clubs overall finances IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBromwichBrazil Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 So would that be like Player value + balance ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I don't thin players value have nothing to do with tha or Balance. I think it esthimated clubs value. I'd love someone who knows for sure info to tell us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBromwichBrazil Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Me too . I wasn't sure because I had lots of highly valued players but I sold a large majority of them and expected to see me fall down the Richest Club list however I remained pretty stationary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I would pressume its the total assests of the football club. So this would include balance , player value + other assests (such as stadium - training and youth facilities and other smaller things like paper clips ) that would be my take on it so thats far from fact! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchPosh Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I agree with nev147. I think it is based on the current available finances of the club in addition to its liquidity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 balance, players value, chairman, loans/ debts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 balance, players value, chairman, loans/ debts Can you explain a bit more on the chairman please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannan300188 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I don't think the squad value has anything to do with it. I was always under the impression it was balance and facilities and all other saleable assets except players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzamark Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 The size of stadium is important from memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 yes and facilities i forgot. As for chairman, i would say it because it appears to be more than the balance. Many times chairmen may inject money out of nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzamark Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I love when that happens! Usually after an expensive buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I hope it is turnover. That's what lists like this are always done on IRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allies Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 balance, players value, chairman, loans/ debts I believe that you were right in saying that the chairman has an effect on the value of a club, because I was way ahead on the rich list as Chelsea (in 2023 and the roughly 7 years before it), but out of nowhere Inter have replaced me as the richest club in the world. I found it odd, but forgot about it untill I read this thread.. I checked their competition history and the last time that they have won the Serie A was in 2009, they haven't won the Champs League since 1964. They last won the SuperCoppa in 2011 and the TIM Cup in 2015. In other words it couldn't possibly be as a result of them performing well in competitions (they even finished 14th in the league the season before). I then went to check the Inter's landmarks tab and it shows that a Tycoon has just taken over the club. So no doubt that the chairman's willingness to put money into the club ups a club on the rich list. I would have taken a screenie of the rich list as well, but since I can't find it (that inbox item has been deleted) I haven't been able to. Anyone able to point me in the right direction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 World-finances-richest clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allies Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Okay thanks, I almost never use the 'world' menu... There was only a half million pound difference between Chelsea and Inter when the annual richest list was produced and that's why it has now subtly changed so quickly with the two teams switching ranking positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 yes and facilities i forgot. As for chairman, i would say it because it appears to be more than the balance. Many times chairmen may inject money out of nowhere I believe that you were right in saying that the chairman has an effect on the value of a club, because I was way ahead on the rich list as Chelsea (in 2023 and the roughly 7 years before it), but out of nowhere Inter have replaced me as the richest club in the world. I found it odd, but forgot about it untill I read this thread..I checked their competition history and the last time that they have won the Serie A was in 2009, they haven't won the Champs League since 1964. They last won the SuperCoppa in 2011 and the TIM Cup in 2015. Yes you are both correct that a very wealthy chairman has a big impact on the finances of a club - but the chairmans wealth or potential does not effect the clubs value or I dont think so. It does not matter if the chairman is a porper or the wealthies man on the planet when the clubs value is calculated. Yes the chairman may have injected money into the club in the past which will increase the balance and thus the value of the club but when a snap shot of the business is seen in terms of the total assests then the chairman is not part of the assests so his personel wealth at that given point in time does not effect the estimated wealth of the club - yes they have contributed to that wealth in the past and they may well do in the future but they are not factored into the equation when dealing with the clubs value. Maybe I'm being pedantic, but in answer to the OP's question I dont think we can factor the chairmans personel wealth (club wealth yes, but that is tied to the club and not the chairman in the form of other injections/investments) into the equation when calculation the value of the club - I may be wrong but that my take on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slawbawn Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Club value is based on things such as club finances, stadium size, facilities and so forth. Wealthy chairman do too. After I got taken over one time my value shot up by about £20,000,000; one of the many benefit's of a tycoon takeover. I think past success has something to do with it as well. Not overly sure because in general success will coincide with better finances, and in most cases better stadium + facilities so not sure on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 What about when the debt is far greater than the clubs worth? On FM, Man Utd are valued at £236m, while they have a debt of £386m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 What about when the debt is far greater than the clubs worth? On FM, Man Utd are valued at £236m, while they have a debt of £386m. That's why I think it's turnover. LOL @ Adam Federici managing Inter Milan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 That's why I think it's turnover.LOL @ Adam Federici managing Inter Milan. I can’t see how, as Man Utd made £295,538,267 last season, and West Ham brought in £563,794,679. Man Utd ran at a loss, and West Ham ran at a profit. There has to be something more that effects the clubs valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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