newguy243 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 how do you go around dealing with 2 yellow cards in the first half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Depends on if it's their first red, how it affected the result etc. Usually a warning for 2 yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badass_ Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Definitely a warning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesbeams Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Dont think ive ever fined a player on FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon_Rising Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Earlier today, managing England vs Belarus, Jack Wilshere tackled a guy from behind an 14 minutes, and gets booked for it. A few seconds elapse whilst the players from both sides position themselves for the free kick. In the same passage of play, 2 seconds after the free kick is taken, Wilshere does exactly the same thing, and gets his second booking. However as international manager I am not allowed to issue any kind of warning, which I think is a shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo_rooney Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I think the poll says it all mate lol. Too lenient or too harsh and you face a player and maybe squad backlash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4L Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Fining a player for 2 yellow cards has never ever had a positive effect in my experience. I'll warn the player and that's it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinisahabit Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 If a player gets sent off for 2 yellows i give him a warning, if its violent i fine a weeks wages. I also issue warnings for performances lower then 6.0 and fine a weeks wages for anything lower then 5.0 and any lower then that they get the full shabang! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I've only ever fined a player if its a straight red other wise a fine is normally sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichN987 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I usually work my way up the scale. I start of with a warning (or two, it depends on my mood ) and then if it happens again I will start fining the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 2 yellows a warning, straight red: 1 weeks fine. Then if any more players get a red soon after i fine them 2 weeks wage. I used to fine a player 1 weeks wage who got sent of more than once with 2 yellows, but they alway's get upset. You can have a player who as been sent of 5 times already, and he gets 2 yellows and you fine him 1 weeks wage, and he will get unhappy about unfair treatment. So now it's always just a warning for 2 yellows as it's not worth destroying the team morale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I always go for two weeks. However, I tend to have no more than one red card a season, as my players are all on "easy" tackling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 If it's the first offence then I'll just let it go. If he does it repeatedly (many times over then season), then welll... I'll just not play him anymore. I'm a forgiving person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintToon Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 My best defender for a time, Steven Taylor liked seeing Yellow and Red, warned him every suspension for around 5 seasons! As it wasn't working I fined him. He was upset for a time, but got over it. Now he is over it he is collecting cards all over again. Fine, warning. They never learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Nothing for the first offence of two yellows- warning if it happens again or too many yellows, then a fine for the third time. Nothing for a first red, unless it is for viloent conduct, when I will give a warning. Secind offence is a warning/fine, depending on the offence. Getting a warning or fine for your first offence is very hard and would go against almost all workplace diciplinary procedures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr1777 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Fining, or even warnings, are actually pretty pointless in my experience... they don't really seem to get the point why they were fined, so you don't really get anything good from it, but most of the time they whine about unfair treatment so just makes matters worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigman1985 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 i only fine when players skip training i warn for red cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilly_boro Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I fined Yoann Gourcuff for getting his 5th red card of the season and he still complained about treatment and all my squad kicked off too. I now don't fine them except for missing training. Just easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzamark Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It would depend on how long I've been at the club / how successful I have been. If I'm the man they'll get fined, if I've just joined a warning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Fining, or even warnings, are actually pretty pointless in my experience... they don't really seem to get the point why they were fined, so you don't really get anything good from it, but most of the time they whine about unfair treatment so just makes matters worse. They will also complain about a lack of discipline at the club if you let everything go. Warning for two yellows and 1 week fines for straight reds very rarely get complaints in my experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosson Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 My best defender for a time, Steven Taylor liked seeing Yellow and Red, warned him every suspension for around 5 seasons! As it wasn't working I fined him. He was upset for a time, but got over it. Now he is over it he is collecting cards all over again. He does like a card. Signed him for Tottenham, got sent off or suspended 7 or 8 times I think in his first season. Has been better for me on my Newcastle save though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Youre supposed to warn for 2 yellows, 1 week fine for a red, 2 weeks for a violent conduct red. This isnt logical to me, you should warn for the 1st offence, 1 week for the 2nd offence and 2 weeks for each offence after that. But if you do that, the stupid players get annoyed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurakUeda Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Voted warning, but it really depends. If he's being sent off repeatedly, I fine him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Warnings all the way. Except missing training (a big no-no) is a 2 week fine and if the guy keeps getting himself sent off then I'll start fining him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot67 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 2 yellows, first time = 1 week fine. straight Red, first time = 2 week fine 2 yellows, second time = 2 week fine straight red, second time = 2 week fine + transfer listed. 2 yellows, third time = 2 week fine + transfer listed. That's my system, players moan about it when I fine for two yellows but they get over it soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurakUeda Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 2 yellows, first time = 1 week fine.straight Red, first time = 2 week fine 2 yellows, second time = 2 week fine straight red, second time = 2 week fine + transfer listed. 2 yellows, third time = 2 week fine + transfer listed. That's my system, players moan about it when I fine for two yellows but they get over it soon enough. Transfer list part looks extremely harsh to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot67 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Transfer list part looks extremely harsh to me. It probably is pretty harsh but I live by the sayings 'no one is bigger than the club' and 'every player has his price', so if they don't want to play by my rules they can go elsewhere and collect wages while serving suspansions for some other manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonForever Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 First sending off I issue a warning. Another in same season, fine 1 week's wages. Never had to fine someone again, and I've never had a player respond negatively either. Lucky me, I guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Whenever a player gets sent off I make a note and warn or fine them based on their own disciplinary records. It seems to work for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2ONeon Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 i tend to fine two weeks for that!... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 The discipline system in FM is a bag of..., too often the outcome of your fine or warning seems to be determined by a coin flip that leaves you crossing your fingers that all goes well. What I would prefer to see is the option to create a code of discipline at the start of the season, 10 yellows=1wk wages red card=1wk wages miss training/match=2wks wages don't learn your lesson & do it again=train with the kids for a couple of weeks & get fined 2wks wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSYoungEsq Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 All these systems are, I suppose, fine, but they really only have value if they affect what the players do in the game. An elaborate system for fining, suspending from the first team, etc. won't help you much if it doesn't change the behavior (or as they might say overseas, behaviour) of the player. Now, if your player shows a nasty tendency to be sent off the pitch, you certainly might think more than twice about replacing him in your squad with someone who has a bit more discretion when it comes to how and when to tackle opponents! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badass_ Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 It probably is pretty harsh but I live by the sayings 'no one is bigger than the club' and 'every player has his price', so if they don't want to play by my rules they can go elsewhere and collect wages while serving suspansions for some other manager. I like your attitude, lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 To be fair, you don't get many stories of players getting fined IRL for two yellows or suspensions. Punishments are only really meted out for ill-discipline (generally being a big *****). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 To be fair, you don't get many stories of players getting fined IRL for two yellows or suspensions. I've heard people mentioning having to pay fines for cards at Sunday league level, not sure if this is common practice though, or if it is the case in professional football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krald Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 two yellows = warning straight red = 1 or 2 week fine depending upon disciplinary record and harshness of challenge. If a player has two reds no matter the source in a season though I'm going to fine him. I've thankfully never had a player get three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliciousNW Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Warning or nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohanzee Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I usually warn first time someone gets sent of whether it's 2 yellow or straight red. Then I give them 2 weeks fines after that. If they don't accept the fine, and start moaning, I transfer list them and move them to the reserves until they regret their outburst. Don't think I've ever had a player stay angry more than a week or two. Not sure if it helps or not, but I don't really care. It feels good to show them who's the boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I've heard people mentioning having to pay fines for cards at Sunday league level, not sure if this is common practice though, or if it is the case in professional football. When I used to turn up for Sunday league there were two sets of fines, the FA fines for the card & the club fine which went into the Christmas party/end of season party fund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 First red card of the season I give a warning, if he gets a second I fine him a weeks wage, a third two weeks wage, and if I ever had someone who got a 4th I'd consider his future at the club, as they;d clearly have a discipline issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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