George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Hi guys, I was just wandering, I never really know what attributes I should look for, for certain players in all the available positions in football manager. i.e. For a Centre Back, at a guess I should look for height, heading, tackling e.t.c.... But don't really know much else or what official stats makes a player good. I was also thinking, I would set up a few shortlists when FM2011 comes out and define their attributes in that, which should makes it easier for me to find the correct player in a position I am actively seeking. So my question is really, does anyone know of a list or has to hand what attributes are best for ALL the available positions in FM2010 ? I am assuming that these will remain the same when FM2011 comes out. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 It tells you in the tactics section. Select a position ie. Ball Playing Midfielder - and it will highlight the attributes you ideally need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 It tells you in the tactics section.Select a position ie. Ball Playing Midfielder - and it will highlight the attributes you ideally need. Thanks mate I didn't know that. But I am at work and bored, so was hoping someone could supply me with a list for me to read and 'make me look busy' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 If it makes you feel better I've been playing since CM2 and researching since FM07 and still don't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Thanks mate I didn't know that. But I am at work and bored, so was hoping someone could supply me with a list for me to read and 'make me look busy' I actually created a spreadsheet based on the aforementioned attributes. I simply input all the players stats - and it tells me which position he is most suited to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Just googled it and found this.... Although not sure how "official" it is though. Goalkeepers (GK) Handling, Positioning, Reflexes, One on Ones, Aerial Ability Wing Defenders (DRL) Tackling, Teamwork, Pace, Marking, Decisions Central Defenders (DC) Tackling, Jumping, Strength, Marking, Concentration Central Defensive Midfielders (DMC) Tackling, Passing, Bravery, Determination, Work Rate Central Midfielders (MC) Tackling, Passing, Teamwork, Decisions, Determination Flank Midfielders/Wingers (ML/MR/AML/AMR) Passing, Crossing, Dribbling, Pace, Teamwork Central Attacking Midfielders (AMC) Passing, Creativity, Flair, Technique, First Touch Quick Forwards (FC) Finishing, Composure, Pace, Acceleration, Dribbling Towering Forwards (FC) Finishing, Composure, Strength, Jumping, Anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 13.The ratings for reflexes, handling, communication, jumping and positioning are generally a good indicator for how good a goalkeeper is14.If you're looking for a good wing-back pay special attention to an individual's positioning, tackling, stamina, pace and acceleration 15.Positioning, tackling, pace and anticipation are just some of the important characteristics that make for a good full-back 16.A good centre-back will usually have high ratings for tackling, jumping, positioning, heading, strength, marking, bravery and team work. 17.Pace, dribbling, passing, off the ball, creativity, stamina and crossing are just some of the important characteristics that make for a good winger. 18.Passing, off the ball, creativity, technique, dribbling and stamina are just some of the important characteristics that make for a good attacking midfielder 19.A good defensive midfielder will most likely have high ratings for tackling, work rate, stamina and positioning. 20.Pace, acceleration, dribbling, technique, finishing and off the ball are just some of the important characteristics that make for a good pacey striker. 21.Jumping, heading, strength and off the ball are just some of the important characteristics that make for a good target man. This was written before the introduction of the preset roles in the tactics creator but they are a pretty good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Just googled it and found this.... Although not sure how "official" it is though.Goalkeepers (GK) Handling, Positioning, Reflexes, One on Ones, Aerial Ability Wing Defenders (DRL) Tackling, Teamwork, Pace, Marking, Decisions Central Defenders (DC) Tackling, Jumping, Strength, Marking, Concentration Central Defensive Midfielders (DMC) Tackling, Passing, Bravery, Determination, Work Rate Central Midfielders (MC) Tackling, Passing, Teamwork, Decisions, Determination Flank Midfielders/Wingers (ML/MR/AML/AMR) Passing, Crossing, Dribbling, Pace, Teamwork Central Attacking Midfielders (AMC) Passing, Creativity, Flair, Technique, First Touch Quick Forwards (FC) Finishing, Composure, Pace, Acceleration, Dribbling Towering Forwards (FC) Finishing, Composure, Strength, Jumping, Anticipation No, no. There's a LOT more than that. Some positions ie. Complete Forward have upto 20 attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Okay this one seems to go into further detail then.... Goalkeeper Key Attributes: Aerial Ability, Command of Area, Handling, Reflexes, Composure, Concentration, Decisions, Position, Agility Recommended: Communication, Eccentricity, Rushing Out, Creativity, Acceleration, Pace Desirable: One on Ones Sweeper Key Attributes: Heading, Marking, Passing, Tackling, Anticipation, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Positioning, Acceleration, Balance, Jumping Recommended: Dribbling, Creativity, Team Work Desirable: Long Shots Central Defender Key Attributes: Marking, Tackling, Determination, Positioning, Jumping, Strength Recommended: Heading, Composure, Concentration, Decisions Desirable: Passing, Technique, Aggression, Anticipation, Bravery, Creativity, Acceleration Full Backs Key Attributes: Crossing, Marking, Tackling, Decisions, Positioning, Team Work, Work Rate, Acceleration, Stamina Recommended: Dribbling, Anticipation, Concentration Desirable: N/A Wing Backs Key Attributes: Crossing, Dribbling, Tackling, Decisions, Positioning, Team Work, Work Rate, Acceleration, Stamina Recommended: N/A Desirable: N/A Defensive Midfielder Key Attributes: Tackling, Positioning, Decisions, Marking, Team Work, Strength Recommended: Passing, Work Rate, Technique, Composure, Concentration, Creativity, Acceleration, Stamina Desirable: First Touch, Heading, Anticipation, Determination, Off the Ball Central Midfielder Key Attributes: Passing, Team Work, Decisions, First Touch, Marking, Tackling, Positioning, Work Rate Recommended: Determination, Off the Ball, Technique, Creativity, Stamina, Strength Desirable: Bravery, Dribbling, Long Shots, Aggression, Anticipation, Composure, Flair, Finishing, Heading, Acceleration Side Midfielder Key Attributes: Crossing, Decisions, Tackling, Off the Ball, Team Work, Work Rate, Stamina Recommended: Dribbling, Technique, Pace, Passing, Anticipation, Determination Desirable: Marking, Flair, Acceleration, Agility, Balance Attacking Midfielder Key Attributes: Passing, Flair, Technique, Decisions, First Touch, Creativity, Off the Ball, Team Work Recommended: Dribbling, Long Shots, Work Rate, Acceleration Desirable: Finishing, Anticipation, Pace, Crossing, Composure, Agility, Balance, Stamina Wingers Key Attributes: Decisions, Dribbling, Technique, Flair, Team Work, Pace Recommended: Crossing, Off the Ball, Passing, Acceleration, Work Rate, Stamina Desirable: First Touch, Long Shots, Marking, Tackling, Creativity, Agility, Balance, Finishing, Anticipation Strikers Key Attributes: First Touch, Finishing, Anticipation, Off the Ball, Composure, Team Work, Strength, Passing Recommended: Dribbling, Heading, Long Shots, Technique, Creativity, Work Rate, Pace, Decisions, Determination, Agility, Balance, Jumping Desirable: Acceleration, Marking, Tackling, Bravery, Flair, Stamina, Crossing, Aggression Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 It's very vague on the strikers, considering there are several types: Deep Lying Forward (Support) Deep Lying Forward (Attack) Advanced Forward Target Man (Support) Target Man (Attack) Poacher Complete Forward Defensive Forward (Support) Defensive Forward (Attack) Trequartista Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcornell68 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 goal keeper [GK] - GK aer, cmd, han, one, ref, cmp, cnt, dec, pos, agi sweeper keeper [GK] – sw GK aer, cmd, com, ecc, han, ref, rus, cmp, cnt, cre, dec, pos, acc, agi, pac sweeper [sW] - SW hea, mar, pas, tac, ant, cmp, cnt, dec, pos, acc, bal, jum libero (s) [sW] – lib s dri, hea, mar, pas, tac, ant, cmp, cnt, cre, dec, pos, tea, acc, bal, jum libero (a) [sW] – lib a dri, hea, mar, pas, tac, ant, cmp, cnt, cre, dec, pos, tea, acc, bal, jum, lon central defender [DC] - DC hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str central defender (stopper) [DC] – DC st hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str, bra, agg central defender (cover) [DC] – dc DC hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str, ant, acc ball playing defender [DC] – bp DC hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str, pas, tec, cre ball playing defender (stopper) [DC] - bp DC st hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str, pas, tec, cre, bra, agg ball playing defender (cover) [DC] – bp DC cv hea, mar, tac, cmp, cnt, dec, det, pos, jum, str, pas, tec, cre, ant, acc limited defender [DC] - lim DC mar, tac, det, pos, jum, str limited defender (stopper) [DC] – lim DC st mar, tac, det, pos, jum, str, bra, agg limited defender (cover) [DC] – lim DC cv mar, tac, det, pos, jum, str, ant, acc full back [DLR] - FB cro, mar, tac, ant, cnt, dec, pos, tea, wor, acc, sta wing back [DLR/WBLR] - WB cro, dri, mar, tac, dec, pos, tea, wor, acc, sta defensive midfielder (d) [DMC] – DMC d mar, tac, cnt, dec, pos, tea, wor, acc, sta, str defensive midfielder (s) [DMC] – DMC s mar, tac, dec, pos, tea, wor, acc, sta, str, pas deep lying play maker (d) [DMC/MC] dp PM d mar, pas, tac, tec, cmp, cre, dec, pos, tea, str deep lying play maker (s) [DMC/MC] – dp PM s pas, tac, tec, cmp, cre, dec, pos, tea, fir, off anchor man [DMC] - Anchor hea, mar, tac, ant, cnt, dec, det, pos, wor, str central midfielder [MC] - MC fir, mar, pas, tac, dec, det, off, pos, tea, wor ball winning mid-fielder (d) [MC] – bw MF d mar, tac, agg, bra, det, pos, tea, wor, sta, str ball winning mid-fielder (s) [MC] – bw MF s mar, tac, agg, bra, det, tea, wor, sta, str, pas box to box midfielder [MC] – box MC dri, fin, fir, hea, lon, mar, pas, tec, ant, bra, dec, det, off, pos, wor, acc, sta, str advanced play maker (s) [MC/AMC/AMLR] - adv PM s fir, lon, pas, tec, cre, dec, fla, tea, wor, sta advanced play maker (a) [MC/AMC/AMLR] – adv PM a fir, pas, tec, cre, dec, fla, tea, dri, ant, off advanced central midfielder (a) [AMC] – AMC a dri, fir, pas, tec, cre, dec, fla, off, wor, acc advanced central midfielder (s) [AMC] – AMC s fir, pas, tec, cre, dec, fla, wor, acc, lon, tea trequeshet [AMC/FC] - treq fin, fir, pas, tec, ant, cmp, cre, fla, off, agi wide midfielder [MLR] – w MF cro, pas, tac, ant, dec, det, off, tea, wor, sta winger [MLR/AMLR] - wing cro, dri, tec, dec, fla, off, acc, agi, bal, pac defensive winger [MLR] – def W cro, dri, mar, tac, tec, dec, tea, wor, pac, sta inside forward (a) [AML/AMC] – IFW a cro, dri, fin, pas, dec, fla, off, tea, acc, pac inside forward (s) [AML/AMC] – IFW s dri, pas, dec, fla, off, tea, acc, pac, lon, tec deep lying forward (s) [FC] – dp FW s dri, fir, lon, pas, tec, cre, dec, off, tea, str deep lying forward (a) [FC] – dp FW a fir, pas, tec, cre, dec, off, fin, ant, cmp, bal advanced forward [FC] – adv FW cro, dri, fin, hea, ant, cmp, fla, off, wor, pac target man (s) [FC] – ST s fir, hea, lon, agg, bra, det, tea, wor, jum, str target man (a) [FC] – ST a fir, hea, bra, det, tea, wor, jum, str, fin, ant poacher [FC] - poach dri, fin, fir, ant, cmp, off, acc, agi, bal, pac complete forward [FC] - cmp FW dri, fin, fir, hea, lon, pas, tec, ant, cmp, cre, dec, det, off, tea, acc, agi, bal, jum, pac, str defensive forward (s) [FC] – def FW s fir, lon, mar, tac, tea, wor, pac, sta, str defensive forward (a) [FC] – def FW a mar, tac, tea, wor, sta, str, fin, ant, cmp (a), (s), (d) = attack, support, defense the bits after - are my own abbreviations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 wow thanks Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 You can use those attributes to create your own custom search filters. I have one set up for each individual position. Some are more successful than others! If I'm struggling to find a right-back with a good "star rating" - then I'll implement this system and find a player with very good stats, who might only have 1.5 stars or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 You can use those attributes to create your own custom search filters.I have one set up for each individual position. Some are more successful than others! If I'm struggling to find a right-back with a good "star rating" - then I'll implement this system and find a player with very good stats, who might only have 1.5 stars or so. This is a thing I often have trouble understanding or finding the bast way. Do you consider players stats for a certain position to be the best judge of how good the player is? Let me explain (dont read too much into it, its just an example.) Say you have Patrice Evra, probably one of the best left/wing backs in the game and a CA,PA in the high 170's. Now if you find another player who has 1 point higher in every key attribute for that position but lower in all the other so his CA, PA is a lot lower, does that make the second player better? Ive often wondered wether the players CA,PA can be irrelevant sometimes and really I should just be looking at stats for the position rather than overall. I hope you understand what I mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 This is a thing I often have trouble understanding or finding the bast way. Do you consider players stats for a certain position to be the best judge of how good the player is? Let me explain (dont read too much into it, its just an example.)Say you have Patrice Evra, probably one of the best left/wing backs in the game and a CA,PA in the high 170's. Now if you find another player who has 1 point higher in every key attribute for that position but lower in all the other so his CA, PA is a lot lower, does that make the second player better? Ive often wondered wether the players CA,PA can be irrelevant sometimes and really I should just be looking at stats for the position rather than overall. I hope you understand what I mean Depends on the level you're playing at. I first developed a love for attribute searching rather than star-ratings when I was with Kilmarnock. Not a particularly demanding league. I had full-backs set simply to "defend" - with all the relevant attributes needed according to the requirements (set to 12-20 range, with the player requiring 9 out of 10 of these attributes). Worked wonders for me. They were avaraging 7.1 for a season. But you would certainly be 'found out' if you tried this at a top European club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 That fits with my experiences. In the lower leagues I could get away with players with a few high attributes in the right places, at the very top though I've found that players need to have much better all round attributes to succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Definitely. Agree with that Dafuge. Pace and a sprinkling of half decent attributes is the key to lower league! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Pace on its own is good enough sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Anyone know where I can download these filters somewhere, on the off chance that someone has them as a download link ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Anyone know where I can download these filters somewhere, on the off chance that someone has them as a download link ? Shouldn't take long to do them yourself. Pen and paper and a spare 10 minutes!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Spurs Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Shouldn't take long to do them yourself. Pen and paper and a spare 10 minutes!! hehe, would take longer than 10 minutes. If anyone is interested I managed to find this file.... A filter for every single position. http://fmcenter.co.uk/FM10/FMFplayersearchpanel.rar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Pretty sure there is a filter on the good player guide, isn't there? Someone made them up for every role in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 hehe, would take longer than 10 minutes.If anyone is interested I managed to find this file.... A filter for every single position. http://fmcenter.co.uk/FM10/FMFplayersearchpanel.rar Beat me to it by some considerable distance. That'll teach me to tab the windows up and then forget to refresh before posting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Easier to bump this than start a new one. Has anyone got a list of attributes needed for accurate heading, tackling, finishing, passing and so on..? I know there is already attribiutes for each of these but I believe you would need a few added extras to be able to pull off the very best passes, for instance. I need a list for Heading, Tackling, Finishing, Passing, Pace, Stamina, Set-Plays, Ball Control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMatt7 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I'll help you out a little: Passing: Creativity, Technique, Decisions, Composure, First touch, Flair, Agility Finishing: Technique, Composure, Decisions, Flair, Anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks Matt, appreciated mate. Anyone got any others? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake82 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It tells you in the tactics section.Select a position ie. Ball Playing Midfielder - and it will highlight the attributes you ideally need. Holy crap I didn't know about that either, thanks for the heads up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regens Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 could you tell me what is : fir and lon? tks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Pace on its own is good enough sometimes Ivica Olic Gabby Agbonlahor could you tell me what is :fir and lon? tks im guessing that fir is first touch and lon is long shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 When I look at ANY player in FM11.3, I first go for the following five key attributes: Determination (most important of all) Anticipation Decisions Team Work Work Rate If those are satisfactory, I look for the following five physical attributes: Acceleration Jumping Pace Stamina Strength ... if those are not satisfactory, I don't bother glancing at the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 When I look at ANY player in FM11.3, I first go for the following five key attributes:Determination (most important of all) Anticipation Decisions Team Work Work Rate If those are satisfactory, I look for the following five physical attributes: Acceleration Jumping Pace Stamina Strength ... if those are not satisfactory, I don't bother glancing at the rest. Wow, you must miss out on a lot of good players with those very strict search parameters... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLeaseDontSackME Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Seems to me no matter where i read most people overlook jumping for a gk. after all what good is ariel ability if he cant jump? same with outfield players, what good is heading if he cant beat his opponent to the ball? just something for you all to ponder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Seems to me no matter where i read most people overlook jumping for a gk.after all what good is ariel ability if he cant jump? same with outfield players, what good is heading if he cant beat his opponent to the ball? just something for you all to ponder. Bravery and Anticipation are also used to decide who win the header. So one can ask - what good is a Shaq O'Neill (Basket - don't know if I spelled his name right) kind of player if he is as scarred as he is blind? (Not that Shaq is that, just his physics as an example) IRL, if you take Alesandro Nesta and Fabio Canovaro. Not the tallest and best jumpers around. But they sure did/do win a lot of headers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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