James Ferguson Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Alright, I'm looking into buying this laptop. http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Dell-Laptops/inspiron-15-intel-n5010/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-15-intel-n5010&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1 Would only be able to buy the first or second column, third is too expensive. Just want to know if it'll be good enough to run a good number of leagues at a fair speed. 3D isn't that important. Apart from FM, will only be used apart from that for surfing the internet and general school work. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ferguson Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 *cough* 101010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 ^ Link not working for me. Take me to dell homepage. @Everyone Please post the CPU model and RAM for advice on FM(no of leagues) and Graphic card for 3D ME, instead of posting links. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ferguson Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 ^Link not working for me. Take me to dell homepage. Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop Intel® Pentium® Processor T4500 (2.30 GHz, 800 MHz, 1MB) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit 15.6" High Definition (1366x768) WLED Display with TrueLife Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 4500MHD Memory : 3072MB (1x1024 + 1x2048) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel 320GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 15-20 leagues. 3D on med/high. I would suggest getting 4GB RAM (more is always better) and a 7200rpm hard drive (makes a huge diff in general use) by customizing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJESSE Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Don't knowDon't know 20 to 25 2 years yes Wasn't the MSI better? IIRC it had i3 370M. The specs i had given you was from the msi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Oh thats cool then. So have you bought it/buying it soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyteBlade Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6ghz 4GB DDR PC10666 RAM 750gig WD Caviar Green SATA HD (7200RPM) Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express graphics card Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 35 leagues with 3d on high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJESSE Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 The specs i had given you was from the msi. Boxing day mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ferguson Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 15-20 leagues.3D on med/high. I would suggest getting 4GB RAM (more is always better) and a 7200rpm hard drive (makes a huge diff in general use) by customizing. Thanks mate. How about this one?: Intel® Pentium® Processor P6100 (3M Cache, 2.00 GHz) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HD 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] 500GB (5400RPM) Serial ATA Hard Drive DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConorBL4 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Acer Aspire 5736Z. 3GB Ram. Intel Pentium Processor. Windows 7 Home Premium - 64 Bit. Intel GMA 4500M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Thanks mate. How about this one?:Intel® Pentium® Processor P6100 (3M Cache, 2.00 GHz) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HD 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] 500GB (5400RPM) Serial ATA Hard Drive DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) Not much different. Are they priced similarly?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Acer Aspire 5736Z.3GB Ram. Intel Pentium Processor. Windows 7 Home Premium - 64 Bit. Intel GMA 4500M. Which one exactly? 5-20 leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Ishu - you seem to be the person who has the info - will be looking at getting a new laptop soon - mainly for FM2011 and surfing the net. Not too bothered about 3d match engine - just want to run as many leagues as poss without it slowing down - currently have a Dell but it's not too great - have had an acer before and didn't like it that much. Would love it if there's anything around £500 or under - any ideas? P.S. From seeing your posts it seems 4gb is the best for running FM - is there any other main things to consider - yes...'main things' is my level of techtalk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelufc123 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Will there be a massive difference in performance between these two laptops, is the HP actually any good? http://direct.asda.com/HP-15.6%22-Laptop---3GB-RAM---32GB-storage---Windows-7-Premium/000503417,default,pd.html#descriptionSection http://direct.asda.com/Samsung-NP-R530-JA0HUK-15.6%22-Laptop/000502028,default,pd.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Ishu - you seem to be the person who has the info - will be looking at getting a new laptop soon - mainly for FM2011 and surfing the net.Not too bothered about 3d match engine - just want to run as many leagues as poss without it slowing down - currently have a Dell but it's not too great - have had an acer before and didn't like it that much. Would love it if there's anything around £500 or under - any ideas? P.S. From seeing your posts it seems 4gb is the best for running FM - is there any other main things to consider - yes...'main things' is my level of techtalk! Yep 4GB with the best possible CPU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yep 4GB with the best possible CPU. The GB bit I understand - what exactly am I looking for when it comes to checking the CPU - is that the processor speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Ishu - in fact I've only had my Dell 1525 Inspiron laptop for a couple of years - the specs are: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.00 GHz 2.00 GB RAM The battery is knackered on it and needs replacing (seems like if you keep it plugged in all the time it fries the battery - or that's what many have reported on internet forums). The HDD got knackered on it last year but the IT lads replaced it, albeit with a crappy 80GB HDD. It's OS is Vista as well! Would it be worth me upgrading this laptop rather than buying a new one? Is it easy to upgrade? Would I need to get quite a bit of technical help? Seeing as I've only had this for a couple of years I only want to shell out on a new one if really needed (my fault for only buying a crappy £300 laptop). Cheers for any help...much appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The GB bit I understand - what exactly am I looking for when it comes to checking the CPU - is that the processor speed? One way can be shortlisting all laptops with 4GB RAM, your personal features (Size, Price, Looks etc) and then note their exact CPU model nos. Then look up a benchmarking site like tomshardware or something and check the "rendering" and "video encoding" benchmarks. Keep eliminating and trimming your shortlist That will give you a fair idea. Then ask me which out of those is better. Would it be worth me upgrading this laptop rather than buying a new one? Is it easy to upgrade? Would I need to get quite a bit of technical help? No, No & No. Your laptop is quite similar to mine (My battery is knackered as well ). I am runnning W7 and its OKish. FM with around 10 leagues is decent. Formatting with XP/W7 will help a little, but otherwise I wouldn't upgrade anything. Seeing as I've only had this for a couple of years I only want to shell out on a new one if really needed (my fault for only buying a crappy £300 laptop).Cheers for any help...much appreciated! A £500 wouldn't last much more than that tbh. 3yrs is the lifespan of most PCs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Taylor Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hey guys, I currently have this laptop: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-VAIO-VGN-FW21E-Bluetooth-Widescreen/dp/B001KSCHHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292955248&sr=8-1 And i was just wondering whether the setup would be able to handle about 10-20 leagues with about 40,000 players? Or would it be able to load more leagues an players? I am also currently thinking about getting a new graphics card due to the one it bein pretty rubbish compared to the newish ones. Just to add, does anyone know a good website that sells some good quality laptop graphic cards? Every site i have looked at refer me back to desktop graphics. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I am also currently thinking about getting a new graphics card due to the one it bein pretty rubbish compared to the newish ones. Just to add, does anyone know a good website that sells some good quality laptop graphic cards? Every site i have looked at refer me back to desktop graphics. Have you ever build a desktop PC from scratch. Because messing with the inside of the laptops is much more difficult than that. Heck even opening the laptop is more difficult than that. Also you need to make sure that your laptop has a slot to take the graphic card in. If it has onboard then it probably doesn't. You might be better of getting a express card graphic card thing from MSI. It can take upto a HD5670 which can play any game till now at high. Both of the thing are hard to find. Try looking up on ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Taylor Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I have built my own desktop and i know that laptops are more difficult to open, but i am currently an IT technician apprentice at a microsoft academy and so we repair and upgrade laptops and desktops regulary. I am pretty sure the graphics card is not an onboard type, but i will look around for the express cards and hopefully will find a good one. Also could you answer the question in my previous post please? about the player and leagues? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 LOL OK. And can you post the CPU & RAM here?? And that MSI thing is just an adaptor. You need to buy a desktop graphic card seperately. The interface will bottleneck anything above 5670 as I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Taylor Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Was just saying You talking about the CPU & RAM of the laptop i currently have? If so its: CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 2.26 GHz RAM: 4GB Ohhh i get you now, thanks for clearing that up, you can tell i'm a rookie at this IT technician stuff. And this MSI thing, will it mean i'll have a desktop graphics card having out the side of my laptop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 15-20 leagues will be fine. And this will hopefully clear your doubts about MSI GUS http://ubergizmo.com/2010/05/msi-expresscard-graphics-upgrade-solution/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Taylor Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Ahh thats all good then Yeah thats helped clearing it up, I now know what i'm looking for. Thanks Ishu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sia Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 How will FM2011 run on: XFX ATI Radeon 4890 1GB Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2Ghz Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 500GB Samsung F3 Spinpoint Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 40-45 leagues. Nice gaming rig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveytay Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Hi guys, Would this system allow me to run FM11 ok? Also how many leagues/players I could get out of it? I last had FM 09 which ran fine so hopefully 2011 will be ok. ■Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7100 (1.8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2 cache) ■Intel 965GM + ICH8-M Chipset ■1024 MB DDR2 RAM ■Intel® GMA X3100 PCI Express (up to 256MB shared memory) ■15.4” TFT WXGA - 1280x800 ■160 GB SATA HDD Many thanks, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 10 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveytay Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Thank you Ishu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 You're Welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Getting FM soon and I'm looking for a good desktop to run around about 30-40 leagues at a good pace. Budget is around $700AUD. Am willing to build one too, if I can find cheap components. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Only FM? Gaming? Will you OC? Need Monitor/Speaker/KB/Mouse? OS? What do you have currently? And 1 USD is how many AUD? :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 FM and that is it most likely, maybe CIV. Not hardcore. OC? Overclock? Dunno how to No monitor or speakers. Windows 7 64 bit please! And I currently have a dell PC with 1GB ram and a 2.56 GHZ processor. It's ****. Finally, the AUD is on parity with the USD, therefore 1AUD = 1USD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesjunior Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Haven't played FM since FM2009 as my 7yr old PC wasn't capable of 3D. Two weeks ago and after a lot of research on sites like "Build Your Own", "Toms Hardware" and "Overclockers" I finally ordered, bought and built the desktop system in the link below for £450. It runs FM2011 effortlessly, click continue and it is there no waiting time at all. It saves the game in a few seconds, but for some strange reason takes a few seconds to Exit. All the parts are compatible and for some of you who have mentioned building your own but not sure how to do it I am 60 and it was very easy. In fact if you can make a Lego model you can build a PC. http://www.budgetbuybuild.com/specmanager/15996/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 AMD x6 1090T BE @ $259 Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H @ $129 GSkill Ripjaws 2x2GB 1333MHz CL7 @ $79 Seagate 1TB @ $69 CM Elite 430 @ $69 Corsair CX400W @ $65 TOTAL $670 This can run around 60 to 70 leagues comfortably. And CIV on medium-high. If you want CIV on high (And nearly ever other game on med/high) Get a HD5670 @ $105 and 1055T @ $199 instead of 1090T. Total $715. 40 to 50 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieH86 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hi guys I have a Dell mini 10 notebook - 1.66GHZ, 0.99 GB and working off an intel Atom processor (i know the specs are poor but due to some lovely thieves it's all i am working with now!) I have tried to play FM through this using a DVD drive but despite being able to install it, I cant run it, and everytime i click it again, it tells me that FM is already running. What can be done (short of getting a new laptop - which is the long term plan!!) or is that the intel atom is simply not powerful enough. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deggial Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hi, how many leagues can I run on this configuration: AMD Phenom X2 555 Black Edition 3,2 Ghz 4GB DDRAM3 Kingston HyperX 1600Mhz HD Radeon 5770 1GB ASUS M4A77T WD Caviar 1TB Green Edition (64MB Cash) Greetings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 AMD x6 1090T BE @ $259Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H @ $129 GSkill Ripjaws 2x2GB 1333MHz CL7 @ $79 Seagate 1TB @ $69 CM Elite 430 @ $69 Corsair CX400W @ $65 TOTAL $670 This can run around 60 to 70 leagues comfortably. And CIV on medium-high. If you want CIV on high (And nearly ever other game on med/high) Get a HD5670 @ $105 and 1055T @ $199 instead of 1090T. Total $715. 40 to 50 leagues. That looks very good Ishu and is a similar set up to what I had planned. Oh and it being able to run 60 leagues is amazing! Thanks for your help! EDIT: The RAM you have linked is different to your description. And I also need an OS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ism-scfc Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Right, I had a look around yesterday, as my laptop is well and truly on its last legs, and found these three. I have simply no clue whatsoever when it comes to laptops, so would be happy if someone would tell me the best laptop for FMing. 3D is absolutely essential, but I don't play anything else on it, just word processing, spreadsheets etc, so it doesn't need to be graphically intensive Acer Aspire 5551 AMD Athlon II X2 Processor P320 (2.1 GHz) ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 Graphics up to 1405MB HyperMemory 15.6" HD LED LCD 3GB DDR3 Memory 320GB HdD DVD Super Multi DL Drive Acer Nplify 802.1 b/g/n 6 cell Li-ion battery £399 Toshiba Satellite C660D-195 Windows 7 Home Premium 15.6" screen DVD Dual Layer RW Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M 1 year warranty 4GB RAM Intel Celeron T3500, 2.1 GHz £399 Dell Inspiron 1545 Windows 7 Home Premium 15.6" screen DVD Dual Layer RW Integrated GMA 5400 HD 1 year warranty 4GB RAM Intel Pentium Dual Core T4500, 2.3 GHz 500GB HdD £449 Thanks in advance for any advice. Don't mind paying the extra £50 for the dell if it is much better. As I said, what I know about specs and stuff could be written on the back of a postage stamp, so I just listed what the thing in the shop said. Sorry if I missed anything out, and I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which one is the best PC/the best value Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Hi guysI have a Dell mini 10 notebook - 1.66GHZ, 0.99 GB and working off an intel Atom processor (i know the specs are poor but due to some lovely thieves it's all i am working with now!) I have tried to play FM through this using a DVD drive but despite being able to install it, I cant run it, and everytime i click it again, it tells me that FM is already running. What can be done (short of getting a new laptop - which is the long term plan!!) or is that the intel atom is simply not powerful enough. Thanks I have seen many people with atoms running FM. Anyways make a new thread in the PC support forum, with every small detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Hi, how many leagues can I run on this configuration:AMD Phenom X2 555 Black Edition 3,2 Ghz 4GB DDRAM3 Kingston HyperX 1600Mhz HD Radeon 5770 1GB ASUS M4A77T WD Caviar 1TB Green Edition (64MB Cash) Greetings. 20 to 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 That looks very good Ishu and is a similar set up to what I had planned. Oh and it being able to run 60 leagues is amazing!Thanks for your help! EDIT: The RAM you have linked is different to your description. And I also need an OS. Here is the correct RAM link. I think W7 Home premium is $65. Either get 1055T instead of 1090T. Or pay extra. 1090T is very easy to overclock as it is a "Black Edition". 1055T is a little more complicated. If you can get a friend to overclock the 1055T to around 3.8GHz, it will perform as good as 1090T at 3.8GHz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Right, I had a look around yesterday, as my laptop is well and truly on its last legs, and found these three. I have simply no clue whatsoever when it comes to laptops, so would be happy if someone would tell me the best laptop for FMing. 3D is absolutely essential, but I don't play anything else on it, just word processing, spreadsheets etc, so it doesn't need to be graphically intensive.............. Thanks in advance for any advice. Don't mind paying the extra £50 for the dell if it is much better. As I said, what I know about specs and stuff could be written on the back of a postage stamp, so I just listed what the thing in the shop said. Sorry if I missed anything out, and I would be very grateful if someone could tell me which one is the best PC/the best value Cheers Not much difference between them. I would ignore the Acer as they have poor build quality, and the difference between Dell and Toshiba isn't much. Both will run around 15 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deggial Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 20 to 25. Ok, thanks you. But please tell me, how much players I can use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Default. If you want to load more players, decrease the number of leagues a bit. FWIW, the number of leagues determine the speed of matchdays and number of player determines the day to day processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Hi Ishu, I could use some advice. I'm torn at the moment between the Phenom II x4 965 BE and the Phenom II x6 1055T. I wasn't going to bother with a hexacore, but given there's so little price difference between the two I've decided its worth investigating. FM will probably be the only app I'll use that will push the CPU hard. My problem is that I'm not certain whether the higher clock speed of the quad will outweigh the two extra cores of the hexa for FM, or vice versa. The stock speed of the quad is 3.4Ghz, which I can probably OC to around 3.9ish, whereas the hexa is 2.8 which I can push to somewhere around 3.3 I would expect. I seem to recall that FM only supports threading when processing match results, whereas all other processing (training etc.) uses only one core. Is that still the case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The Hexa can EASILY go to 4.0 GHz. . What board are you getting?? Yes that is still the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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