Pea Tear Griffin Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Processor Processor Brand: Intel Processor Type: Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor Speed: 2.13 GHz Memory RAM Size: 4 GB Computer Memory Type: DDR3 SDRAM Hard Drive Hard Drive Size: 500 GB Graphics Graphics Card Description: Intel GMA HD My current PC has lower specs than this, and I can about 16 leagues in 7 countries. It's rather slow, but playable, and runs OK on a 1.53GHZ processor. Just wondering how many leagues I can expect to run? Want to play: England France Germany Holland Italy Scotland Spain Down to lowest league (playable from game-not downloading down to step 15 or anything). Should it work reasonably ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Just ordered an HP Pavilion, wondering how many leagues it will run:i7-2630QM 2.0 bust to 2.9 6GB RAM 640GB HHD @ 7200rpm HD6770M thanks Hey I am thinking about buying that laptop too. I reckon it would run ~ 60-70 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Laptops are not for gaming, having three laptops, one being a Dell with a Nivida 8600 GMT and the other two having dedicated graphic cards and so the Dell is my number one right now as in transition with regards to building my new gaming desktop.This is my outlook from experience and yes you can get some really great specifications with regards to laptops but in all seriousness don't expect the game of football managers calibre to be running to full capacity without having high CPU temps and that is the flawed concept on the laptops. That's half true. Laptops aren't the best option for gaming but they CAN be pretty good at it. My laptop with a 3 generation old Intel onboard and one of the slowest dual cores can actually play Bioshock, COH, NFS MW etc. And the HP I quoted in the post above this one can play nearly all games on high. FM is a piece of cake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Just finished this ''little test'', it took me 5 minutes and 10 seconds on my i5 760 @ 3.4 ghz , 4 GB RAM , and exactly 4 min 23 secs at 4GHZ . PII X4 takes 7min and 760 does it in 5 min. 760 is also competing with 2600K. Doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hi guys have just purchased my new pc for £330 It has a. Amd 965 x4 3.4ghz cpu 4gb ram Radeon hd 5450 Graphics card I will change in next few weeks as well as adding ram to make it 8gb ram. Now the question is how will it perform how many leagues\nations and players will it load? Thanks 45 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hey guys, I'm after some advice if any of you feel able to help me! Basically, any advice appreciated. I haven't really got a specific idea in mind, only a vague one. Can any of you guys help? Thanks in advance. Budget ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 i5 or i7 makes a difference? or hyper-threading is not working with FM? HT does work and i7 should be theoritically 1.5x faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 ProcessorProcessor Brand: Intel Processor Type: Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor Speed: 2.13 GHz Memory RAM Size: 4 GB Computer Memory Type: DDR3 SDRAM Hard Drive Hard Drive Size: 500 GB Graphics Graphics Card Description: Intel GMA HD My current PC has lower specs than this, and I can about 16 leagues in 7 countries. It's rather slow, but playable, and runs OK on a 1.53GHZ processor. Just wondering how many leagues I can expect to run? Want to play: England France Germany Holland Italy Scotland Spain Down to lowest league (playable from game-not downloading down to step 15 or anything). Should it work reasonably ok? 15 leagues are OK. 20 would be slower but manageable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Budget ? £400-500 probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Processor: AMD Phenom Dual Core Processor speed: 3 GHz Processor bus: 1333 MHz Processor cache: 2 MB Memory (RAM): 4 GB Storage (hard drive): 500 GB Storage (hard drive) Type: SATA Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Dedicated Graphics: no Discrete Class Graphics: Shared Graphics: ATI radeon HD 4250 1.87 MB Hows this one guys? Going to order it soon just need a quick review Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 £400-500 probably. Lenovo G570 15.6 inch Notebook (Core i5-2410M, RAM 4GB, HDD 500GB, DVDRW BT, Windows 7 Home Premium) - Black HP - Same specs Would play Minecraft, FM @ 40 leagues and 3D on high. An assembled desktop would perform better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Processor: AMD Phenom Dual CoreProcessor speed: 3 GHz Processor bus: 1333 MHz Processor cache: 2 MB Memory (RAM): 4 GB Storage (hard drive): 500 GB Storage (hard drive) Type: SATA Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Dedicated Graphics: no Discrete Class Graphics: Shared Graphics: ATI radeon HD 4250 1.87 MB Hows this one guys? Going to order it soon just need a quick review Don't buy AMD Phenoms. Definitely not a dual core. The Graphic card is crap as well (Much worse than the Intel onboards). What's your budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseFly Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 PII X4 takes 7min and 760 does it in 5 min.760 is also competing with 2600K. Doesn't make sense. I'll try this one out with 2600k, 8GB ram + SSD tonight. E: 5min 20sec with lot of stuff in the background. FM doesnt seem to be using hyper threading, or alteast task manager shows only usage on 4 cores. Will check some BIOS settings and try it out with OC later. E2: 4min 25sec with 4Ghz and no stuff in backround. Still CPU usage between 5-20% the whole time. So almost identical times than i5-760. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Lenovo G570 15.6 inch Notebook (Core i5-2410M, RAM 4GB, HDD 500GB, DVDRW BT, Windows 7 Home Premium) - BlackHP - Same specs Would play Minecraft, FM @ 40 leagues and 3D on high. An assembled desktop would perform better. Wow, I love the look of that lappy. 40 leagues on FM! Blimey! I would love that! How many countries could I load from? 10-15 maybe? Is it dual core or quad core? What about the graphics though. It says 'Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000'. Never heard of that. Is it good? I'm worried about integrated graphics as my current laptop has Intel GMA 950 and it barely runs FM, never mind Minecraft (which I have to have loads of fog on to play)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet418 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hey guys, I currently have a Dell Netbook with 1gb Ram and no potential to upgrade. I'm now looking to get a better laptop and was wondering if anytone could give me an idea on which of these two would be best for FM: http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ACER__A1-LX.NAF02.007/version.asp or http://www.ebuyer.com/257441-acer-aspire-5336-laptop-lx-rd802-026 Any ideas on how many leagues/players I will be able to load with either of these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Dual Core with HT (2 core/4threads) http://ark.intel.com/products/52224 HD3000 is 4x more powerful than GMA950. You won't be able to play the latest AAA games but FM and Minecraft should be OK. Old games would run too. Similar HP but with a smaller HDD but a dedicated card 30% faster than Intel HD3000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hey guys, I currently have a Dell Netbook with 1gb Ram and no potential to upgrade. I'm now looking to get a better laptop and was wondering if anytone could give me an idea on which of these two would be best for FM:http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ACER__A1-LX.NAF02.007/version.asp or http://www.ebuyer.com/257441-acer-aspire-5336-laptop-lx-rd802-026 Any ideas on how many leagues/players I will be able to load with either of these? They are both very bad. 20 leagues tops. And I hate Acer. What's your budget? I'll look if you want. EDIT http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-Satellite-C660-1J2-i3-380M-Windows/dp/B004XARRBS/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1312203970&sr=1-4 25 - 30 leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Don't buy AMD Phenoms. Definitely not a dual core. The Graphic card is crap as well (Much worse than the Intel onboards).What's your budget? Whoever ive spoke to has told me that AMD Phenom is much better than Intel? The max is £399. What do you recommend then, must have a HDMI slot bear in mind as i watch movies from there too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet418 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks Ishu. My budget is £300 really. Not bothered if it's refurbished, what's the best you guys think I could get for that money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Whoever ive spoke to has told me that AMD Phenom is much better than Intel? The max is £399. What do you recommend then, must have a HDMI slot bear in mind as i watch movies from there too No. Phenoms are owned by SB in everything. Intel i5 2400 140 Intel DH67BL 80 Corsair 4GB 30 Seagate 7200.12 1TB 40 Corsair CX500W 45 CM Elite 430 50 That's 385. This would run 60-70 leagues. 3D on high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks Ishu. My budget is £300 really. Not bothered if it's refurbished, what's the best you guys think I could get for that money? If you can't go above 300, HP. Otherwise Toshiba in post #1667. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 No. Phenoms are owned by SB in everything.Intel i5 2400 140 Intel DH67BL 80 Corsair 4GB 30 Seagate 7200.12 1TB 40 Corsair CX500W 45 CM Elite 430 50 That's 385. This would run 60-70 leagues. 3D on high. My desktop is fine at home but i need a laptop because im going to be on the run next year due to it being my last year in uni so i need it to be a laptop thanks for the input btw, so what can i pick up for max £400? The spec i gave earlier was for a laptop btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet418 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks Ishu - this one seems the same spec but a tad cheaper? http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-g56-107sa-15-6-refurbished-laptop-black-08527224-pdt.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 My desktop is fine at home but i need a laptop because im going to be on the run next year due to it being my last year in uni so i need it to be a laptop thanks for the input btw, so what can i pick up for max £400? The spec i gave earlier was for a laptop btw Oh I thought it was a desktop G570 £423. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks Ishu - this one seems the same spec but a tad cheaper?http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-g56-107sa-15-6-refurbished-laptop-black-08527224-pdt.html The CPU is different. The expensive one has a 25% faster CPU and slightly better GFX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Oh I thought it was a desktop G570 £423. So your saying the first laptop spec i posted is a no go? The processor is the same as my current laptop and it sucks being 2.1ghz the other one i posted was 3ghz surely it will run smoother than the lenovo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You're a top man Ishu. I'm sure I speak for everyone asking for help in this thread when I say that. Thanks for your advice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You're a top man Ishu. I'm sure I speak for everyone asking for help in this thread when I say that. Thanks for your advice! I second that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 So your saying the first laptop spec i posted is a no go? The processor is the same as my current laptop and it sucks being 2.1ghz the other one i posted was 3ghz surely it will run smoother than the lenovo? GHz don't matter. Do you know the exact model no of that AMD CPU? And these CPUs were released January this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You're a top man Ishu. I'm sure I speak for everyone asking for help in this thread when I say that. Thanks for your advice! I second that. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 GHz don't matter. Do you know the exact model no of that AMD CPU?And these CPUs were released January this year. No i dont dude sorry, but i was looking around and this caught my eye - http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy-HP-G56-1088SA-Laptop/714070 Hows that? I do load like 20 leagues usually but i only play on commentary just so you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 http://starredreviews.com/phenom-ii-n830-vs-core-i3-330m-comparison/5985/ http://starredreviews.com/intel-pentium-p6200-vs-core-i3-330m/5099/ http://starredreviews.com/core-i3-330m-vs-sandy-bridge-core-i3-2310m/6260/ From the results it looks like the Phenom ii N830 is similar in performance to the Core i3-330M in cases where multiple cores are used. In single threaded applications, the core i3-330M is leading. The difference – Pentium P6200 does not come with Hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is not beneficial under all circumstances and all conditions. Under certain specific circumstances it does benefit the multi threaded processes to an extent. HT does matter for FM. These two should tell you that i3 330M is similar to P6200 (you just posted) and Phenom Dual core. The Sandy Bridge Core i3-2310M clearly outperforms the similarly clocked Core i3-330M. 2310M is better than all of them. Anyways P6200 would be OK with 20. i3 would be good with 30. PS - If That Lenovo I mentioned is out of budget, there is an option to decrease RAM and HDD (You can add them later and that will still end up cheaper. You can even get better HDD etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 http://starredreviews.com/phenom-ii-n830-vs-core-i3-330m-comparison/5985/http://starredreviews.com/intel-pentium-p6200-vs-core-i3-330m/5099/ http://starredreviews.com/core-i3-330m-vs-sandy-bridge-core-i3-2310m/6260/ HT does matter for FM. These two should tell you that i3 330M is similar to P6200 (you just posted) and Phenom Dual core. 2310M is better than all of them. Anyways P6200 would be OK with 20. i3 would be good with 30. PS - If That Lenovo I mentioned is out of budget, there is an option to decrease RAM and HDD (You can add them later and that will still end up cheaper. You can even get better HDD etc). The P6200 is in my budget so i could go for that and the processor number you asked for earlier i got it btw for the initial spec i posted its N660, if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The P6200 is in my budget so i could go for that and the processor number you asked for earlier i got it btw for the initial spec i posted its N660, if that helps. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004TQQDU2/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1 360 bucks. Remove the 2GB RAM (Its as easy as replacing batteries in you remote), and use 2x4GB = 8GB RAM 40 bucks. So you get 8GB in 400 buck. Or if you don't want that much, add this 2GB 5 bucks. So total 365 bucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman9 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004TQQDU2/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=computers&psc=1360 bucks. Remove the 2GB RAM (Its as easy as replacing batteries in you remote), and use 2x4GB = 8GB RAM 40 bucks. So you get 8GB in 400 buck. Or if you don't want that much, add this 2GB 5 bucks. So total 365 bucks. Are you a sales person for Lenovo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubinho96 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 AMD Phenom II X2 555 Processor 3.20 RAM: 4 GB how many leagues can I run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Are you a sales person for Lenovo? No. First year college student. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 AMD Phenom II X2 555 Processor 3.20RAM: 4 GB how many leagues can I run? ~25 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvs360 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I have to say Ishu, after some bad experiances with HP laptops, i would be inclined to look at the Dell XPS http://www.dell.com/uk/p/laptops?~ck=mn#!facets=41105~0~348449,40189~0~396646,111726~0~1780115,93410~0~1450395&p=1 How does this compare to the HP Pavillion you were looking at? Also price wise as well as performance. Is there any news on better chipsets coming out soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I have to say Ishu, after some bad experiances with HP laptops, i would be inclined to look at the Dell XPS http://www.dell.com/uk/p/laptops?~ck=mn#!facets=41105~0~348449,40189~0~396646,111726~0~1780115,93410~0~1450395&p=1How does this compare to the HP Pavillion you were looking at? Also price wise as well as performance. Is there any news on better chipsets coming out soon? Can you quote the previous post. I have no idea which HP you are talking about. Also that XPS is customizable. What config are you looking at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvs360 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Processor 2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Display 17.3"(44 cm) HD+ WLED True-Life (1600x900) with 2.0 Mega Pixel Integrated Camera Memory1 6GB1 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz Hard Drive 1000GB2 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) Optical Drive DVD+/-RW (DVD, CD read and write) Warranty 1 year of coverage included with your PC Advertised System Weight 7.57 lbs £879 including VAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvs360 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 post 1652 sorry (just re-read your reply) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 post 1652 sorry (just re-read your reply) Which graphic card? If its the 555M, then that is great. If its 540M/550M, do NOT buy that. 540M/550M is 40-50% slower than HP's ATI 6770M. Dell IS slightly better than HP (Customer Care, Sound, Screen, Build Quality). Also please get the RGBLED 1080p screen. Its beautiful. The 768p screen sucks. EDIT: Just saw that XPS15 doesn't has a 555M. XPS17 doesn't has a 1080p screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvs360 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 so would you say the HP that you were looking at was better than the dell? can you point to which HP pavillion it was you werte looking at purchasing? I'm guessing it has the HD screen etc that you were talking about with the dell i posted? Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 so would you say the HP that you were looking at was better than the dell? can you point to which HP pavillion it was you werte looking at purchasing? I'm guessing it has the HD screen etc that you were talking about with the dell i posted?Cheers! No. HP doesn't provide FHD in my country. Dell XPS 15 does but it costs £250 extra with a slower graphic card. I want it for a bit of gaming so I can't compromise on the card. Link to HP ~£675. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvs360 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Thanks for that, certainly some food for thought for us all, as a side to this i purchased this desktop about 18 months ago and plan on getting in to FM 11/12. Are you able to inform me how many leagues you think i will be able to load on this please? http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/21359/HP+Pavilion+p6227uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Thanks for that, certainly some food for thought for us all, as a side to this i purchased this desktop about 18 months ago and plan on getting in to FM 11/12. Are you able to inform me how many leagues you think i will be able to load on this please? http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/21359/HP+Pavilion+p6227uk 60 - 65 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damifam234 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 hi ishu i was wondering if you could help me. Im looking to buy a new custom built pc and was wondering if these specs are good enough for football manager: case: antec dark fleet 85 processors: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz Quad Core motherboard: Gigabyte X58A-UD5 Socket 1366 memory: Corsair 24GB XMS3 1600MHz (6 x 4GB) graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + 600W PSU 1st hard drive: 2tb 2nd hard drive: 2tb optical drive: LiteOn DVD-RW BR-RE Internal Sata Drive operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit in total this will cost me around £1623 isit worth it mate? cheers edit- i was also wondering is this processor: Intel Core i7 980 Extreme 3.33GHz Hex Core the leading processor as it is pretty expensive around £1000 and isit amazing thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 hi ishu i was wondering if you could help me. Im looking to buy a new custom built pc and was wondering if these specs are good enough for football manager:case: antec dark fleet 85 processors: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz Quad Core with HT (~£200) + Noctua DH14 (~£50) motherboard: ASUS P8Z68 V-Pro (~£150) memory: Corsair 8GB Veangence 1600MHz CL7 (2 x 4GB) graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Seasonic X850 (~£120) 1st hard drive: OCZ 120 GB Agility 3 SATA III (~£150) 2nd hard drive: 2tb optical drive: LiteOn DVD-RW BR-RE Internal Sata Drive operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit in total this will cost me around £1623 isit worth it mate? cheers edit- i was also wondering is this processor: Intel Core i7 980 Extreme 3.33GHz Hex Core the leading processor as it is pretty expensive around £1000 and isit amazing thanks again That had a few problem. The CPU/Mobo wre old gen stuff. Way too much RAM (unless you need it for something professional). This much money deserves an SSD and a high end cooler. Disregard the cooler if you won't overclock. You can buy it later. 980X isn't worth the money. The CPU I added is very close to the 980X in performance but costs 1/5th. And yeah, the prices I mentioned are estimates. So just verify them and do the total again. What are the primary uses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baphomet418 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Am thinking about buying this: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/GenesisIII/ but beefing the RAM up to 4gb (DDR3). It's 64 bit Windows 7. Any ideas on leagues/players I could load? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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