rekluse Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 DOWNLOAD I made a similar version for FM10 which was very effective in my games and received several PM's requesting the schedules since the original link had died, unfortunately I had lost the files when I reformatted to windows 7. I went through each of the positions, all of them listed below, and weighted the schedule for each based on those attributes. For example a ball winning midfielder has 7 recommended attributes; 3 of them are strength, 1 tactics, 2 defense and 1 attacking. So the schedule for ball winning midfielder is weighted with an emphasis on these attributes, resulting in the schedule having high strength, high defending. It's also important to note that the ball winning midfielder schedule has tactics, ball control and attacking all set evenly even though there are no ball control attributes recommended. I did this on all of the positions based on personal preference. While ball control may not be recommended, I feel as a whole all of the attributes it improves (dribbling, first touch, heading, technique and flair) are just as, if not more, important to the position than the other non-recommended tactic and attacking attributes. You will also find some schedules you want to tweak that are based on my personal preference. For example wingers are set on high aerobic, tactics, and ball control while only having medium attack. I set this for a few reasons - I usually have my wingers cut inside, so crossing is less important to them and the other reason being that most players would not choose to have an out and out winger unless they already had a high crossing attribute. Which brings me to: ***REMINDER: Check the schedules based on your own players, especially if playing in lower leagues, and alter them as needed. Please do not use these schedules as a plug and play but rather a base to cater them to YOUR TEAM.*** You can also use tutoring and individual focus to your advantage, for example it wouldn't make much sense to put emphasis on shooting training for central defenders just because they have a recommended composure attribute. However, you could have a defender who already has a high composure attribute tutor the player. Also keep in mind that if you begin to use individual training focus and PPM's for players, their workload with these training regimes will be too high and they WILL complain about this. You could make them their own schedule, but more often than not you'll only have 1 or 2 players using a poacher schedule, so it's quite easy to go in and just lower aerobics a bit for example. These schedules are weighted towards attributes recommended for each of the base positions: Advanced Forward Complete Forward Deep Forward - Atk Deep Forward - Sup Defensive Forward - Atk Defensive Forward - Sup Poacher Target Man Trequartista Box to Box Midfielder Advanced Playmaker - Atk Advanced Playmaker - Sup Anchor Man Ball Winning Midfielder Central Midfielder Central Midfielder - Atk Deep Playmaker Defensive Winger Defensive Midfielder Inside Forward Wide Midfielder Winger Ball Playing Defender Central Defender Central Defender - Cover Full Back - Atk Full Back - Def Goalkeeper As you can see, not every single position is covered. Some positions have no differences in attributes from Support and Defend, some are just so similar there is no point in creating a separate schedule for them. These schedules have not been fully tested, I will be testing them but would encourage and welcome any feedback and recommended changes. DOWNLOAD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Boy Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well done mate I'll let you know how it goes - any plans for youth schedules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveczhl Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thanks a lot!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well done mate I'll let you know how it goes - any plans for youth schedules? Seconded - I'd really appreciate that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Bwixs Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Reserved for when I get home. Youth Schedules would be good too please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Wouldn't mind testing this out, if only I could remember where to put the training schedules! Where do I put them again? Cheers Edit - Never mind, I figured it out. Looking at the schedules for the first time, there seems like rather a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMoen Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 put them in the folder named "Schedules", in the football manager 2011 map. I'm gonna try this out, and see if its better then my own crappy training schedule.. ; P Would appreciate youth training too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeNah Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I'm using them now. I'm not a FM pro so probably can't provide any conclusive results but I'll let you know what kind of results I am getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonzie Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Hey, This looks sweet! Quick question, would changing the training schedule cause any negative effects mid-season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 Hey,This looks sweet! Quick question, would changing the training schedule cause any negative effects mid-season? No, you can change schedules mid season multiple times. In FM10 I rotated between a fitness heavy, balanced and fitness light/technical heavy schedule depending on the amount of games I had during a month, or injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Anybody having injury problems with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zizunola Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 yea i 2nd dat. Rekluse there are too many injuries involved in using the schedules! i tweaked mine a bit bt pls do it so everyone can download it! also pls add youth schedules! tanx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consiglieri Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 THX mate i´ve be trying it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 What teams are you guys having injury problems with? I'm currently playing with Aston Villa, and am having no injury problems, but I have not tested it with teams with lower training facilities or physios but if you could provide me with that information then it will let me know what level I need to look at to tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I get alot of players saying they are unhappy with the high workload. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintokhan Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Can anyone post some results from using these schedules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon157uk Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Where do I put these schedules please? I haven't got a folder called 'maps', or if I have I can't find it. Thanks ....Jon T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 I get alot of players saying they are unhappy with the high workload. If your using the default settings for match preparation you will have a couple players complain about the workload, and a couple more may complain if you set them to individual focus and learning new PPM's - you can just tweak their workload down a bit. By lowering the workload to get rid of these players complaining, then it wouldn't benefit those who are able to deal with this workload as much. If you receive excessive amounts of players complaining then please let me know what team you are, and which players are complaining, so I can look into it further and improve the schedules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Where do I put these schedules please? I haven't got a folder called 'maps', or if I have I can't find it.Thanks ....Jon T. C:\Users\Name\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2010\schedules Then go to the training screen in game and import via that screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_russian Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 has somebody already seen sum results ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopiii Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 i cant dl from filefront. anyone kind enough to upload somewhere else? much appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novicehack Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I went through each of the positions, all of them listed below, and weighted the schedule for each based on those attributes. For example a ball winning midfielder has 7 recommended attributes; 3 of them are strength, 1 tactics, 2 defense and 1 attacking. So the schedule for ball winning midfielder is weighted with an emphasis on these attributes, resulting in the schedule having high strength, high defending. based on your explanation above, how do you 'emphasize' the training on certain attributes? Each of a training menu covers certain numbers of attributes. For example, strength covers 3 and tactics covers 5-6 attributes. Do you emphasize by doubling up the clicks/notches, for example, 6 notches for Strength and 10/12 notches for Tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 It's not as technical as that. If a position has 3 recommended attributes for strength and 3 for tactics, the schedule will be high for strength but can be anywhere from medium to high for tactics depending on the other recommended attributes. It's pretty much just done based on what I feel the position needs but use the recommended attributes as a hard guideline. Like central defenders for example, I don't have their shooting high even though composure is a recommended attribute. In the last FM I would attempt to increase this through tutoring, or just let it develop naturally, rather than wasting ability points on unneeded attributes. With FM11 we now have focused training which makes this worlds easier to accomplish. For example, if a position's only recommended attack attribute is crossing and I felt ball control/tactics would benefit the position more then I kept attack training lower and would just use focused training for crossing. Like I said, these aren't really plug & play training if your trying to min/max players. You can certainly use them as plug & play, but to min/max you'll want to tweak the training based on attributes the player needs improving on, utilize focused training, tutoring, and lower the workload on match preparation for lesser difficult games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I've used these for a season with Dortmund now. No real problems with injuries; the vast majority has come about in games (stupid hard tackling!). I've had a couple of complaints about the high training workload, but that's only from players with a low workrate, and quite frankly I ignore them. It hasn't caused any issues with morale. The results from the schedules have been quite good, but it's difficult to assess how effective they are until I've had more time to adjust to the changes to the game's training module. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingfield Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 would love to get a youth team version of these schedules so far no injuries or complaints from players so far (but i only just started the save so effects can't be felt yet) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Has anyone had any success these? I've just went back to using these in a new game and have had more workload complaints than usual yet less training injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zizunola Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 your tactics are always the ones i use... they are very effective.. i only tweak them a little to suit my players but all in all, they are great. are you gonna make one for FM12? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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