Motcha Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 any OI ? match preperation? and the pitch size?thanks, give it a try. Pitch size is very wide. We don't worry about opposition..they worry about us!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Was just going in to tell you leave it on standard, it seems that when you put players on attacking they lose their positional sense and willingness to track back.I am going to experiment and see what happens when I drop mentality. Okay, will not change anything. I guess you also shouldn't change anything with 'sometimes' running with the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 very great tactic i just won 8-0 with liverpool against manchester united thank you very much http://img833.imageshack.us/i/ensemblex.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kass Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I can't download from filefront. Could someone please reup the tac to other server? Thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 very great tactic i just won 8-0 with liverpool against manchester united thank you very much http://img833.imageshack.us/i/ensemblex.png/ Good result but how come so little possession? KASS: here's another link http://rapidshare.com/files/438479551/barce__Liverpool__Feb_2011_.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo7 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 tested it with barcelona P25 W21 D3 L1 GS 55 GC13 Currently top of the table 10 point clear of Real anyone can guide me how to do a screen shot? the goals seem to dried up after september for me. lots of 1-0 victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Have kept 4 consecutive clean sheets now, 5 in 6. And scoring a few up top. I'd say a full season is required for the team to bed in and play consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masty7 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Thanks for this tactic, been using this with Barcelona. Working well so far, only played 14 games. Won 13, Drew 1. Goals for: 27 Goals Against:1 Give a more in depth update later in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 If there is one team this tactic is going to work for it's Barca. I think with any other team, the art is patience as you sign players of the right ilk to fit into the philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamees Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 i'v always wanted to play good football with Glasgow rangers. will play up to jan with this tactic see how i get on will post up results tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 This is an important point you raise, my tactic (in the way presented now) is not in its attacking version. This is the standard one. To get them to be more attacking you will need to raise EACH PLAYER'S mentality by up to 4 notches (but you must raise the same amount for all players). I've scored 63 goals in 34 matches (conceded 18). This is not much but it is mainly because with Liverpool I don't have that many goal scorers. I'd like to see how it works with teams like Arsenal, City, Madrid and Barcelona.This isn't just a tactic for me, it will be a philosophy for building a team and improving every season. Last season I scored 65 goals in the league, I've already scored 63 with 4 more games to go (actually I scored 71 in 36 but my game crashed). Can anyone who tested this tactic share how they are doing. ADEROW: I did post a few pics here, you can't see them? I've not posted pics before so let me know if you can't see them so I try to fix it. lol guess i should pay more attention Interestingly, on standard, for the first batch of games I was claiming 70-85% of possession. Recently, dropping down to 52-54% and sometimes actually losing possession.I'm Tottenham. I'm 3rd in the table after around 10 games with 2 games in hand which will place me top. Lost once in the league, 3-0 away to Newcastle which appears to have been a fluke. It's working very well, but lacks that extra push. Which is obviously because I have it set up as standard. Were you getting the really high possession percentages against really weak opposition? I think that the lower possession may be down to the attributes of your players. How are the decisions, passing, and creativity attributes of your midfielders and forwards? very great tactic i just won 8-0 with liverpool against manchester united thank you very much http://img833.imageshack.us/i/ensemblex.png/ Oh really?? Must be some bug here.....sort it out si tested it with barcelonaP25 W21 D3 L1 GS 55 GC13 Currently top of the table 10 point clear of Real anyone can guide me how to do a screen shot? the goals seem to dried up after september for me. lots of 1-0 victory. Teams are playing very defensive against you thats why.....which is a good thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamees Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Used the tactic until January with various results defeated roma 3-1 was happy with that but in the spl was winning quite a lot of my games 1-0 2-1 but when I did loose I lost heavily hearts , aberdeen and dundee utd all won 3-0 all away. I also found my rmc got injured quite a lot and all my strikers got injured not sure if its just in my save. Tactic is solid enough it could just be the tactic doesn't suit my team. The only signing I made was Diego bonnanettie from river played him in messi's role played well enough didn't score that much but as I said was only winning 1-0 most of the time......and also got quite ages penaltys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamees Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 edit** DP** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Will report at 'end of season'. Have to say this tactic has kicked in. Hardly conceding many goals either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo BH Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Gonna try it with Barcelona and maybe try it with Arsenal. Any tipis on how to play this tactic with arsenal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andym88 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Just tried this tactic in season four with my Barca team, as my all conquering tactic from last year has started leading down cul de sacs. Beat Osasuna 5-1 at home. 21 shots, 15 on target. 10 CCC's. 0 Long shots. GK Sergio Asenjo RB Cesar Azpilicueta CB Gerard Pique CB Andreu Fontas LB Radek Zacharias (REGEN) (subbed for Botia, Botia went CB and Fontas LB) RCM Sergio Busquets (subbed for Koke) CM Javier Macherano LCM Paulo Henrique (playmaker) RCF Javier Pastore CF Lionel Messi LCF Bojan (subbed for Tevez) Gonna have a run of 10 games or so and see what it brings but seems promising! Especially when I have players like Galeano, Iniesta, Defour, Villa, Ander also at my disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo BH Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Does it work for patch 11.2? Cause so far I'm not having the results. Lost 3 of my 6 games. Incluiding the friendlies!!!!! What`s the best way to put the midfield in Arsenal. cause I'm playing with Arshavin, Van Persie and Walcott up front!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basto Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 This tactic looks good but i have a question The busquet role tuch more the ball than the xavi role ; this is a probleme for me the xavi role is more deep than busquet and i don't like that very much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Xavi does like to get forward on occasion..... Oh gustavo: Alex Song in the Sergio busquets role (MC) Cesc Fabregas in the Xavi role (MCR) Samir Nasri in the Iniesta Role (MCL) Try that out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Does it work for patch 11.2? Cause so far I'm not having the results. Lost 3 of my 6 games. Incluiding the friendlies!!!!! What`s the best way to put the midfield in Arsenal. cause I'm playing with Arshavin, Van Persie and Walcott up front!!! I play with Arsenal too. Up front I play Chamakh or Vela (STL), Van Persie or Arshavin (STC) and Walcott or Van Persie (STR). Midfield I play Fabregas or Rosicky (MCL), Song or Denilson (MC) and Denilson or Ramsey (MCR). Works a treat for me! Only problem is that I'm not scoring goals. Many 1-0 wins. And most of my goals come in the 76-90 min period.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 My Liverpool game crashed so I started one with Barce, check out Messi playing in the STC position.... Like real life no? As to the Xavi getting less touches than Busq. You should try setting Xavi as your play-maker. What I do is have Messi as play-maker 1st half and Xavi the 2nd and I end up with Xavi having the most passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovetic Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 i dominate posession but no attack even when at home . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsanj Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 amazing! 15 games played, 15 won. In 9 games in the league i have won 9, scored 32 and conceded 0!!!!!!!!!!! beat atletico 5-0, sevilla 4-0, valencia 3-0. (although somehow atletico had more shots and possession then me! haha) messi, pedro scoring loads , villa not doing so well but that has nothing to do with the tactics messi has 16 goals in 15 games, 11 assists bought afellay as backup and plenty of youngsters for the b team great tactic!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM1000 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Link to the tactic?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Link to the tactic?? First post, about halfish way down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 i also noticed that the MCL player gets tired very easily during the game. is there a way to help improve his stamina? the player i'm using there has a stamina rating of 17 and workrate of 18. should i reduce the "Run From Deep" and "Run With Ball" to rarely? or is it due to the player's natural workrate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 i also noticed that the MCL player gets tired very easily during the game. is there a way to help improve his stamina? the player i'm using there has a stamina rating of 17 and workrate of 18. should i reduce the "Run From Deep" and "Run With Ball" to rarely? or is it due to the player's natural workrate? That is rather strange adp. from the stats you give there is no reason for this, but there are two ways I'd approach this: 1) keep the team shape. Play him for 60 or 70 minutes then rest him. 2) lower his closing down and risk altering the team's shape slightly. I'd do the 1st, , checking if the player is getting tackled hard or looking at the assistant's advice (may be he is not used to the tempo or the closing down). Also look at how many Km h runs/game, is it considerably higher than the rest of the team? It could even be that the player's enthusiasm (workrate + determination) is the cause for the excess effort that's eating his fitness. Toy with it and see! DJSANJ: Some amazing results man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 This tactic is unplayable - if...*if* you have the right players. This is not a cheat tactic and is very dependent on your philosophy with signing the ilk of players that will fit into the system. It's been highly enjoyable watch my team slowly and gradually evolve. Hardly conceding any goals, devastating going forward. It's very Barca-esque. Just started my 4th season (I won the league and CL in the previous one along with the carling cup). First two games beat Arsenal 5-0 then Man Utd away 3-0. Completely and utterly murdered them, almost like the system played out to its very best in these two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeclayton Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hey, just downloaded tactic. Quick question, having saved, imported and selected it, all the options for player roles have dissapeared. Anyone know why this has happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It's not been created via the tactics editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 That is rather strange adp. from the stats you give there is no reason for this, but there are two ways I'd approach this: 1) keep the team shape. Play him for 60 or 70 minutes then rest him. 2) lower his closing down and risk altering the team's shape slightly. I'd do the 1st, , checking if the player is getting tackled hard or looking at the assistant's advice (may be he is not used to the tempo or the closing down). Also look at how many Km h runs/game, is it considerably higher than the rest of the team? It could even be that the player's enthusiasm (workrate + determination) is the cause for the excess effort that's eating his fitness. Toy with it and see! DJSANJ: Some amazing results man! I played one with fitness 15 and workrate 13. It seems that he doesn't lose fitness as drastically. I suppose the workrate and the fitness level are the affecting factors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I played one with fitness 15 and workrate 13. It seems that he doesn't lose fitness as drastically. I suppose the workrate and the fitness level are the affecting factors. It's ironic how you need less fit players in order for your team to work harder (longer). Urban you got it dead on my friend, this is a team-building philosophy. Once you get that (like you did). You'll enjoy the game a lot more. Glad you are battering the mancs. And post some pics too please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mara22 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 congratulions,very nice attacking football.but defence need tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperd Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Can anyone upload the tactic on a functional upload site ( server ) ? Id also like to try this one for a few matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Can anyone upload the tactic on a functional upload site ( server ) ? Id also like to try this one for a few matches. here you go http://www.easy-share.com/1913435523/barce%20(Liverpool,%20Feb%202011).tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cango1983 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Upload the tactic please!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
info0 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It has been uploaded 3 times already? ;O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Upload the tactic please!!!! You'll find the link in the opening post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWO Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Can I post this tac to other site.. Plzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 Can I post this tac to other site.. Plzzzz Yes, but link to here or give credit for the tactic please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman2007 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 i think this is one of the most efficient/beautiful tactic in thsi forum. Compliments mate...very great tactic. Certanly in not perfect at 100% but i think that there aren't tactic perfect at the moment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 A tiny update, I'd like to ask people who are playing with the tactic to move the tempo slider one click to the right and the width slider one click to the left. Then see what will happen to the percentage. Because I'm starting to get 71% poss. and 87% passing on a more consistent basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
syam23 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 why do my xavi like dosent pass the killer ball???and its fabregas in that position@@ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanx Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 how can i see this tactic in not classic version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 how can i see this tactic in not classic version? you can only see it in classic unfortunately. once you change to classic, you cannot change back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanjunkie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 43 games unbeaten in the Prem now (across two seasons). Clean sheets galore. I will do a massive post of stats and scores etc when I get the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanx Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 i have made this tactic for barcelona, i wanna make one like real barca (and even better but you can make better the perfection). http://rapidshare.com/files/440658535/barcelona_433__Barcelona__Nov_2010_.tac i have some problems the average possesion is like the game with real madrid(like the picture above), but xavi did not make the most passes in the game and i dont have enough ossesion in the game(not over 60 like real barca) and i dont make enough scoring chances. anybody help me make this tactic better?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 i have made this tactic for barcelona, i wanna make one like real barca (and even better but you can make better the perfection).http://rapidshare.com/files/440658535/barcelona_433__Barcelona__Nov_2010_.tac i have some problems the average possesion is like the game with real madrid(like the picture above), but xavi did not make the most passes in the game and i dont have enough ossesion in the game(not over 60 like real barca) and i dont make enough scoring chances. anybody help me make this tactic better?? I'll help you but you need to post the following: Stats of a given game. In Analysis, go to passes. In Analysis, go to average positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motcha Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 43 games unbeaten in the Prem now (across two seasons). Clean sheets galore.I will do a massive post of stats and scores etc when I get the chance. I know about the clean sheet possibilities but 43 games unbeaten? How do you keep them so motivated?! You need to teach me a few things there sir Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemess Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Giving this a look using Arsenal (figured it should work for Barca Jr) and it seems to be going fairly well. The Defensive and possession figures are hugely impressive. Not really getting a lot of scoring out of the team though, dunno if the Arsenal forwards just arent upto the roles. Side is creating lots of chances but nobody other than Arshaven nobody is scoring much (Chamach has 1 goal in 25+ games). Have the team setup like this when healthy (Lukaku & Poli joined in Jan window). GK (Valdes role) - Akinfeev RB (Alves role) - Sanga RCB (Puyol role) - Shawcross LCB (Pique role) - Vermarlan LB (....... role) - Clichy MC (Sergio role) - Song MCR (Xavi role) - Fabregas MCL (Iniesta role) - Nasri/Poli FC (Messi role) - Arshaven FCR (Pedro role) - Van Persie FCL (Villa role) - Chamach/Lukaku Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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