AXERTYRE Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I thought this is gonna be fixed in the new patch, why SI did nothing on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_magic Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 What are you talking about I have managed to offload alot of players, at many different clubs as a test. There are many factors you need to remember before a club will come in for a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourcuff20 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 It doesn't look that hard to me now, I even get decent fees for my players if I offer them to clubs. Anyway, that's also maybe because all of my players are tracked by big clubs, so when I want to sell them, there are teams wanting to buy, but I've also sold reserve team player with no problem. Now you just can't expect anymore to sell players for lots of money, as in FM08 or FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancy Gaffot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 It's not, mmkay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 It is hard, I can only offload players via loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I thought this is gonna be fixed in the new patch, why SI did nothing on this? Who are you? When is it? Who you trying to sell? If you have started a new game remember that teams have already spent their money and made most of their transfers for that window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourcuff20 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 And if your players do really suck, then don't expect to sell them, especially if you are an uninteresting team with uninteresting lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Selling players wasn't supposed to be easy... And yes I find that it is easier to offload players. Mind, offloading for money is still hard but at least I do get offers when offered out on a free (they're crap players anyways and I wouldn't pay any money for them). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yep, agree. I can't get rid of anyone. Apparently no clubs will take Giggs, Scholes or Anderson. Can't imagine that happening in real life. They should just make it easier to get rid of players imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfeitor Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I personally think it's improved greatly since the patch. I'm selling players for decent money easily now, whereas before the patch I was having to let players go for free or for a tiny fraction of their value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I haven't really tried to sell players yet but does this happen to anyone else? Trying to loan out players I get pretty much every club in Europe making a bid. I pressed continue and my inbox was filled with 150 loan offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lougehrig Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Compare selling players to the real football world. If you have a player on high wages, it will be hard to sell him. If a player isn't in game shape or short of form, he's going to be hard to sell. In past Football Manager versions it was far too easy to sell players and raise ridiculous amounts of money. I'm happy with the way it is now. If you have a player who's not playing that you want to sell, send him out on loan. Be creative. Find ways to entice other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojby Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yep, agree. I can't get rid of anyone. Apparently no clubs will take Giggs, Scholes or Anderson. Can't imagine that happening in real life. They should just make it easier to get rid of players imo. Come on Giggs and Scholes are like 35 and on high wages - who would want to take them! Anderson though is puzzling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Come on Giggs and Scholes are like 35 and on high wages - who would want to take them! Anderson though is puzzling. Celtic/Rangers/Hull ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I have found it far easier to sell players now since the patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak48 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 'I have found it far easier to sell players now since the patch' me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 so much detail given so we can help you, woah. and yes they did fix it by the way, u clearly just cant get the grasp of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I wouldn't take certain players on even on free transfers, because they don't offer a benefit substantial enough to justify the wage liability. The AI will make the same calculation. Basically - if you want to sell a player because you think he's not worth the wages - clubs looking to buy the player will probably agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Come on Giggs and Scholes are like 35 and on high wages - who would want to take them! Anderson though is puzzling. Come on, you're telling me a Prem team would not have taken Giggs or Scholes at the beginning of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Come on, you're telling me a Prem team would not have taken Giggs or Scholes at the beginning of the season? There's a high risk factor bringing in players, and the upside isn't all that great, even if they click, you're going to get one, maybe two, good seasons out of them. If you already have decent players in those positions, the main impact bringing in a Giggs or Scholes would be burning valuable money - sure, you could transfer your existing player (who's probably doing almost as well, ten years younger and on a third of the wage) - but then you just have to find another player once Giggs is no longer able to play at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Any team would love to sign Giggs or Scholes but they probably know that they're on very high wages and would be very reluctant to leave United considering they've been there their entire careers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 There's a high risk factor bringing in players, and the upside isn't all that great, even if they click, you're going to get one, maybe two, good seasons out of them. If you already have decent players in those positions, the main impact bringing in a Giggs or Scholes would be burning valuable money - sure, you could transfer your existing player (who's probably doing almost as well, ten years younger and on a third of the wage) - but then you just have to find another player once Giggs is no longer able to play at that level. You're missing the point. The game doesn't think in this manor. It's all programmable logic. The coding that controls AI managers making bids for high profile players imo should be tweaked so that we can off load our players, hence making the game more fun and freeing up wages. Like I said, just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo_rune Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 You're missing the point. The game doesn't think in this manor. It's all programmable logic. The coding that controls AI managers making bids for high profile players imo should be tweaked so that we can off load our players, hence making the game more fun and freeing up wages.Like I said, just my opinion. 'Fun' is a concept that means different things to different people. For the AI to make a decision that potentially hurts their club and helps yours - it makes them less competitive, in terms of being able to finance and build strong squads. I like the AI to be as strong as possible, without actually 'cheating' (being given benefits that a human player doesn't get, to compensate for weak logic). The stronger the AI, the more meaningful my successes in the game are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGartz Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 'Fun' is a concept that means different things to different people. For the AI to make a decision that potentially hurts their club and helps yours - it makes them less competitive, in terms of being able to finance and build strong squads.I like the AI to be as strong as possible, without actually 'cheating' (being given benefits that a human player doesn't get, to compensate for weak logic). The stronger the AI, the more meaningful my successes in the game are. With all due respect. I cannot offload around 20 first team players and reserves, including top names like Anderson, Scholes, Giggs, O'Shay, Brown, Neville, Park, Macheda, J.Evans and a load more. If that's your thing, great. I'm not going to argue on a forum about how nonsensical I find that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
froog Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 worst thread ever, there is absolutely no problems with selling players now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Pro Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 i find it easier tried to sell adriano for barca with last patch at 4mill no one bidded this patch i put him up for 9 mill and 5 teams bidded the full wack for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracken Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 It's definitely easier than the last patch, but I still think there are a few problems selling real quality players, whether they're on big salaries or not. But maybe that's just me and I'm too demanding lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylight Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Finding it not only easier but also more realistic. Trying to move 5 players on,bids come in for 2 of them and 1 moves on and 1 says he feels he is deserving of a better contract,I can relate as he is a good player he just does not fit into my system,anyway 2 weeks pass and not only does he move on but so does another player(2nd string player at best). Also no jaw dropping moments when you think a transfer has went through just to see a Premiership side can not free up the 400k for the transfer. All in all a much better feel to it and more fun that I can chase my own transfer targets now and not be hindered by the fact I could not sell good/decent players at a fair price. I am not in a top league...ATM so can not tell how the better players are going.I also have not seen players who are valued at 3+million being offered for free...so far that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skooma Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I just ended my first season with Liverpool (won the quad) and I have yet to sell a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamunger Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 sorry but if ur playin as united why would you want to sell off scholes and giggs, keep them til they retire then hire em as coaches, tis the honourable thing to do XD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spart Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Just managed to offload a ton of players on my Tamworth side in October ready to transfer in the next window. Even made some money out of the more capable one or two that will still terrible. It ain't broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 The problem I have is, not that I can't get rid of players- it's that I can't get rid of them for my asking price. If I have a player worth $3mil that I don't need, I usually offer him out for $4mil-$5mil, then I get offers that are between $2.8mil-3mil. I usually sell them anyway, though, as they probably wouldn't play for me and their value would go down. What annoys me, though, is it is very difficult to get a player at/below their value from the AI... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourcuff20 Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Regarding the wages you've talked about here, the problem is that last year (and in the reality) a player getting over 33 with a year left on the contract will most of the time agree with a new contract on a lower wage. I find it very difficult, so that's why I just offload them instead of offering them a new deal with a lower wage, as long as they are going to become backups. Is that a problem someone else has? The player is not a key one, he is just first team, but right now I have someone better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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