The Lambs Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Nightmare, I am fresh out of optimism, in fact I would put us in the relegation zone next season. How the nearly mighty have fallen. (edit)Great update as usual, shame you had no great news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Jimlad Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 JCG & Mijatovic are awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Jimlad Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Oh and it'll be interesting to see if Yates, unburdened by lack of major achievement and buoyed by the absence of extreme failure, can build something given a little space. Managerial & squad stability wouldn't be the least welcome thing for the Bandits at this point. I hope to see a 12-8 position finish and a cup run next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazchu Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I expect us to hang around 13-15th next season unless we get a proper manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugo23 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Oh well, I was hoping that we will be relegated, just to turn things around. We could go on like this for decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryzz Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 we made an improvement of 1 point on the previous season at least that was an improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste93 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I'm absolutely gutted that after a year and a half of this experiment that we haven't won anything more than the league cup. It's almost harder work than being a Bury fan! Almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I'll only be surprised if something positive happens next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Another disappointing season, I can't say I expected anything else this time round though. I'm most gutted about the promising youngsters that were sold, and sold for low amounts considering their potential. I think next season will be pretty much the same, lower end of the table and little in the way of excitement. I want to see a Bandits manager given a few seasons to steady the team and start to build something, unfortunately I don't want it to be this manager. It looks like Man Utd are on the up again, a good league finish this season and they now have a decent reputation again. After all those years outside the Premiership it looks like they could be looking to mount a challenge again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitheisman Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Talking about Manchester United turning things around after a few years in the Championship. Maybe looking at what allowed them to climb back to the top (board take over, great manager, excellent youngster coming through the academy...) would give us a hint as to what the Bandits need as I now don't have a clue anymore. We've been through 25 years or so in the EPL with a good 12-15 managers, there was a board take over back a decade ago or so, we had great prospects... and sold them... I'm depressed now, it really starts to feel like the Bandits will never win anything. Great update as usual though Kip, I'm just gutted by what the update was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I think the thing that originally started Man Utd's demise was their large loan debt from the start of the game. A couple of seasons with no silverware and no prize money saw them go into administration and eventually relegated. It wasn't until years later when their loan was paid off that they slowely started to climb again. So in Man Utd's case I think it was mainly down to money, a problem the Bandits will never have. I also think Man Utd must have a good board tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitheisman Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 The board must have changed at least once since the game started though, else the chairman would be 150 years old or something ******** like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 The board must have changed at least once since the game started though, else the chairman would be 150 years old or something ******** like that Good point. Has the Bandits board ever changed though? I've been reding this thread since day one but have mental block about this. Have we had a new board are are the current board a bunch of coffin dodgers who refuse to die! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I'm depressed now, it really starts to feel like the Bandits will never win anything. Oh yeah because it never felt like that before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitheisman Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Good point. Has the Bandits board ever changed though? I've been reding this thread since day one but have mental block about this. Have we had a new board are are the current board a bunch of coffin dodgers who refuse to die! iirc we did have a board take over and our current chairman is fairly young so we can't expect another one any time soon, unfortunately. Sarcasm dully noted AB-forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mravac Kid Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I am so glad that anime has taken over most of my time, because it's much nicer to come back after almost 2 months and have 3 seasons done than sitting around, checking the thread every day and seeing no progress whatsoever... If only the Bandits had the reputation, managerial talent, and chairman to be able to splash the cash on anyone as decent as those world beaters... If only the Bandits had the reputation, managerial talent, and chairman to be able to splash the cash on anyone within 20 points of CA from those world beaters... :-/ Sack the board, sack the board... I'm glad to see Messner hanging on to a second youth with yet another point of CA recovered, but that's probably his last hurrah. Rubio is already on a fairly steep way down... and de Lange was never a threat for a top spot anyway. Thankfully, there's a few youngsters who can carry on the fight, provided the club keeps them, but a bit too few. Not to mention some of the other positions... :-/ In any case, the reputation is dwindling, and is approaching relegation levels... another season or two like these last few, and we're gone. Let's hope the next manager (because the current one will likely get the sack this season) doesn't repeat the talent sales. I daresay, even with the current players the Bandits could do much better, given a little stability. But the constant manager changes mean constant player changes, and there's no way for the squad to gel properly. I remain cautiously optimistic, as the bad string of decisions has to end someday, and the finances will ensure any drop simply can't be too far down. But I wouldn't be too surprised if that drop was just around the corner. Well, at least we have some real potential legends in the world beaters, with 3 players within spitting distance or at the very top, quite young, and looking the part. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how the three develop their careers, and for how long they can keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waz_nufc_awk Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 You can say one thing for the bandits, at least they haven't got Laurel & Hardy in charge like we have at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roberto922 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Holy... I can't believe this is still going. Absolute respect to Kipfizh for keeping this amazing experiment going for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_shocker7 Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hi Kip, are you stopping the experiment as soon as FM09 comes out? be a shame for it to end with no real success!! KUTGW! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Sorry, I haven't been following this thread (or the forum in general) for quite some time... has there been any recent input from SI on the implications of this experiment? Like have they said they will make changes to improve the AI based on the results of this (extreme) experiment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougyMarshall Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Perhaps the Bandits need a proper restart in the premiership, relegation next season followed by storming the Championship and entering the PL with a bit oh a charge? Mid table mediocrity will never attract the players needed to stay more than 1-2 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson13 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Are you gonna do a simlar one for fm 2009 cause would really like to see one on new FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well that was odd. I'd completely forgotten about this and returned expecting to have 3 weeks of updates to read. When in actuality there is expletivedeleted all. Roll on FM09 so the Bandits can get back to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugo23 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Please, oh please, share your initial save with us before FM09 arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitheisman Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I just got back from 2 weeks vacation and was excited at the idea of reading about my beloved Bandits, you'd better have a good excuse for ruining my day Kipfizh! *takes tongue out of cheek* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mravac Kid Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Fools. You need to be away two months to have a few updates waiting for you. Like I did. So suffer like the rest with daily visits to the thread, pulling your hair out. And in answer to the questions: Yes, there will be a new experiment with FM09. As for when exactly, I'll leave that to The Man himself to answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Ooh, mysterious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thgilyad Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Will there be any more updates before FM09 is released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper99 Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I hope so, Kip hasn't said he's ending the experiment so hopefully he's just been busy and can do a few more updates before FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Because Kip uses external tools to check on the player CA and PA, any future experiment will have to wait until these tools are released by the third party publishers. Didn't it take a couple of months before the excellent mini scout was released this year and a few more months after that for the equally impressive Genie to arrive? This could mean he will not start his 09 experiment until around February. I am hoping that Kip has not lost interest in this experiment, but it must be a real pain in the backside to update this these days, never any exciting information to report and always holding on to the slim hope that this season will be the one where they win something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defoes Right Boot Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Because Kip uses external tools to check on the player CA and PA, any future experiment will have to wait until these tools are released by the third party publishers.Didn't it take a couple of months before the excellent mini scout was released this year and a few more months after that for the equally impressive Genie to arrive? This could mean he will not start his 09 experiment until around February. I am hoping that Kip has not lost interest in this experiment, but it must be a real pain in the backside to update this these days, never any exciting information to report and always holding on to the slim hope that this season will be the one where they win something. Good point about the scouting programs, I guess a lot depends on how much difference there is in the background database between 08 and 09 as to how quickly they will come out. Re. your last paragraph... welcome to the joys of being a Spurs fan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste93 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 still nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defoes Right Boot Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Sorry folks, kept you waiting for an update there and it turned out to be the most snorevilly season in history.And no, snorevilly isn't a word. But I think it should be. Let's just hope that whenever the next update arrives, it is much less snorevilly than the last one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitheisman Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I miss you Kipfizh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrientMartin Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip where are you? Your public awaits!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_shocker7 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 i think if we post like around a hundred posts a day it might get bac into the spotlight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_shocker7 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 bump bump bump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrern Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 A month and a half since the last update, and almost 2 weeks since Kip last visited the forums... We miss you Kip! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Site Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I rediscovered this thread after like months and just finished going through it. All I can say is WOW, i've missed the pleasure the bandits brang into my life. lol I have the upmost respect for you Kip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjazz1983 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hmm it's been nearly 6 weeks since the last update so I guess the Bandits have finally died, tis a great shame, hopefully Kip (or someone else if he's too busy) will repeat the experiment for FM09 and we can compare the results and inspect improvements in the Football Manager series, but I doubt I shall enjoy it quiet as much as I have done watching the 07 Bandits rise to prominence. Thank you for hours of reading entertainment though Kip, your work is much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wegason Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 My guess is his real life has taken over, it happens, I'm sure it's either work or family related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesBestEvaManager Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 R.I.P Kip :[ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terras-FM Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 RIP- !0 Characters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Nooooooooooo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicmastermind124 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'd imagine that as long as he can use Genie Scout with FM09 he will be starting his new experiment soon. This experiment was and is a great idea but the limit was reached, I don't think it'll get any better. He already has some great ideas for the FM09 experiment, which should be a great experiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzii Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'd imagine that as long as he can use Genie Scout with FM09 he will be starting his new experiment soon. This experiment was and is a great idea but the limit was reached, I don't think it'll get any better.He already has some great ideas for the FM09 experiment, which should be a great experiment. Genie never even got finished for fm08 i don't think, so i wouldn't imagine a fm09 one will be along shortly. Not sure if he would be able to use one of the others out there like miniscout, never used it so don't know what info it can give you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty bison Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Didn't Genie Scout become FM Scout, which is available for FM08? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Didn't Genie Scout become FM Scout, which is available for FM08? no. well, not at least afaik. genie is its (his, Eugene's) own product. and where the hell is Kip?!?! anybody sent a search party out yet?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 no. well, not at least afaik. genie is its (his, Eugene's) own product.and where the hell is Kip?!?! anybody sent a search party out yet?!? I'm willing to send him a message on facebook if that what it takes In fact I have just done that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm willing to send him a message on facebook if that what it takes In fact I have just done that good thinking, that man! maybe we all ought to do it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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