Geordie_Gaz Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Is it just me, or has Marveaux had a massive stat drop since FM11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanH91 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Ratings are spot on IMO, and on the Ben Arfa front, don't all stats, CA and PA get frozen if a player gets a long term injury? Aaron Ramsey comes to mind, sure he wasn't altered at all last year when he broke his leg, hence him being a -10 2 years in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Is it just me, or has Marveaux had a massive stat drop since FM11? At work at the moment, so can't compare and contrast Marveaux to last years model. Looked pretty decent on the Demo I thought, slightly better than I was expecting I think. Can't wait for the full game now, so I can load up a good few leagues and cast my net far and wide for some decent left backs:D Really don't want to have to pay Wayne Bridge's wages if I can avoid it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualSuspect9 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sooooo just finished the demo and here are my results... League Table Squad stats Transfers Also got Van der Wiel lined up to come in January, even though I probably won't carry on when the full game is out. Any questions, fire away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Looks like corners are going to be source of easy goals again this year...going by the rate my defenders were scoring from them, and 20 goals for Steven Taylor above. What formation did you go for UsualSuspect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmason122 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Originally quoted by TheUsualSuspect9Also got Van der Wiel lined up to come in January, even though I probably won't carry on when the full game is out. Any questions, fire away How much did Van der Wiel cost you and what wages did you negogiate him to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualSuspect9 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Looks like corners are going to be source of easy goals again this year...going by the rate my defenders were scoring from them, and 20 goals for Steven Taylor above.What formation did you go for UsualSuspect? 4-2-2-2 GK DR DC DC DL MC MC AMR AML ST ST How much did Van der Wiel cost you and what wages did you negogiate him to? £15m over 48 months Basic he will be on £40k + £20k per appearance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipesh14 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sooooo just finished the demo and here are my results... Looks like Steven Taylor banged in the goals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualSuspect9 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 On corners I just had Taylor to near post then the rest to the far post. Corner aim to near post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 On corners I just had Taylor to near post then the rest to the far post. Corner aim to near post. He's an absolute menace from set pieces, even if you leave all the settings on default. He's generally outscoring the strikers on my save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_Gaz Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 At work at the moment, so can't compare and contrast Marveaux to last years model. Looked pretty decent on the Demo I thought, slightly better than I was expecting I think.Can't wait for the full game now, so I can load up a good few leagues and cast my net far and wide for some decent left backs:D Really don't want to have to pay Wayne Bridge's wages if I can avoid it Don't actually think he's changed much, I was confused between the starting Marveaux and the one I'm used to, 6 seasons in. Nvm :s Not had much time to play so far and am only 10 days in. My only two signings are Jelle Vossen and Jlloyd Samuel and taken James Beattie on trial. Stupidly, I turned down £8.5m for Coloccini, which looking back I could have used to sign Ridgewell and Wheater so I'd at least have some depth. Ah well. On the plus side, I've had 2 man of the match performances from Obertan, which I assume is good after reading someone couldn't get him to perform? (I think). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gaz, I had a couple of good appearances from Obertan, but a couple of stinkers as well. I'll assume he has a low 'Consistency' attribute, he made for quite a useful impact sub in some games, coming on with his pace against a tiring full back. Scored couple cracking goals cutting in from the wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngky Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 i have been puzzled by how some of you guys have been able to make big-money signings! i have tried offering money on monthly installments, but the deals always collapsed due to lack of funds. anyone able to shed some light on the matter? anyways, here's my transfer dealings by the end of the demo. shipped out most of whom i considered to be deadwood to free up wages and bump up my transfer kitty to achieve a rather respectable squad, which helped me finish a very respectable 4th at the end of december. IN: Daniel Sturridge (Loan) Jack Collison (4.5m) Wilfried (2.5m) Sime Vrsaljko (800k) Siphiwe Tshabalala (325k) Jan Vertonghen (8m) Total: 16.25m OUT: Shola Ameobi (3.4m, Southampton) James Perch (1.1m, Birmingham) Mike Williamson (3.2m, Palermo) Peter Lovenkrands (1.3m, Sporting) Alan Smith (1.2m, QPR) Ryan Taylor (1.8m, Ipswich) Tamas Kadar (1.5m, Ipswich) Shane Ferguson (2.2m, West Ham) Danny Guthrie (2.1m Cardiff) Total: 17.75m Squad 4-4-2 Krul, Vrsaljko, Coloccini, Vertonghen, Santon, Gutierrez, Cabaye, Tiote, Tshabalala, Ba, Wilfried Squad 4-2-3-1 Krul, Vrsaljko, Coloccini, Vertonghen, Santon, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez, Ben Arfa, Tsabalala, Wilfried i used 4-4-2 at the beginning, and got very decent results. and when ben arfa returned from injury, i would play the 4-2-3-1 with him against weaker opponents. otherwise, i'll stick to the 4-4-2 and change to a 4-2-3-1 with ben arfa coming on some time in the second half to terrorise the tiring opposition defence. with this squad, i have got good cover in every position except at left back. in defence, harper, steven taylor and danny simpson are cover, and i have also trained simpson to be accomplished at left back. in midfield, collison and gosling covers the centre midfield positions, while obertan, marveaux and vuckic give me depth in attacking midfield. up front, i have sturridge and best waiting in the wings. cabaye has been dominant in centre midfield, where he has provided 13 assists from 16(3) games. wilfried is the standout player with 17 goals and 4 assists from 16(1) games. Ba chipped in with 10 goals and 4 assists in 16 games. coloccini has been a rock at the back, while also contributing 7 goals in 22 appearances. sure hope they repeat or better their performances on the actual game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 when you offer for a player over 48months.. your essentially paying a quater of that amount a year.. ie... 20mil over 48months is 5mil a season .. so unless you have that 5mil in your kitty to pay the first downpayment straight away.. they will collapse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dovEs Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 In Modibo Maiga's personal information he 'Has a preference to play for Newcastle' in his career plans. Pretty nifty. Wonder if that will help with contract negotiations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JizzleyBear Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Gary Hooper from Celtic is a banging signing. Picked him up for 7mil and is goal a game for me at the moment as an advanced forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerobianchi Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Question: Is the Newcastle squad overrated or fair? I don't know if FM has taken the club's current form into account but Newcastle look a bit too good to me.Jonas has been given a decent stats boost compared to FM11, Ben Arfa hasn't decreased whatsoever despite a major injury + a new niggle, Cabaye has gone up ma-hoosively compared to FM11 too and tbh Obertan on every single version has stats much better than his ability - oh and add in that Tim Krul looks like a cracking keeper at just 23 and Demba Ba as a very handy poacher. Finally centre back choices are fairly capable in Steven Taylor and Williamson. 9 million for transfers to take into account + planning on selling a couple of players I consider as deadwood... Am I being unrealistic in thinking that some good management could earn a champions league spot in the first season? cry some more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bene the horse Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi all! Could anyone tell me what the different transfer and wage budgets would be depending on Season expectation. I've seen at the top of the thread it says 8 mill is the standard but I dont know anymore than that! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi all!Could anyone tell me what the different transfer and wage budgets would be depending on Season expectation. I've seen at the top of the thread it says 8 mill is the standard but I dont know anymore than that! Thanks! You can push them up as far as £10.75 mill transfer budget and £850,000 if you promise to win the title, but be warned your job security will be very tenuous if you're not challenging at the top by the time the demo ends. I gave it a try with that budget and expectation and all through December, despite being in the top 6, I was seeing news stories about needing a good result in the next match or I'd be out of a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleGraham Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 @ creator of thread. Coloccin better than he is in real life? You ever watched Newcaslte game? The guy is one of the top top defenders in the EPL pal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 @ creator of thread. Coloccin better than he is in real life? You ever watched Newcaslte game? The guy is one of the top top defenders in the EPL pal Yes he is, but he's even more of a monster on FM if anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerobianchi Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yes he is, but he's even more of a monster on FM if anything No, not really forums user DandyDon. Not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 No, not really forums user DandyDon. Not really. Well I'd say he's been more effective for me on the Demo than he has in real life. He's been an excellent defender for Newcastle since he arrived here, but on FM with his mix of attributes and the match engine he's a far more consistent threat in the opponents box. In real life he's got what 5 goals from 125 appearances for Newcastle? On the demo as well as being highly consistent at the back for me, he's scored 5 goals in 18 appearances, and that's leaving free kick and corner kick routines on default. With stats like that I don't think it's exactly a far fetched claim to say he's even better on FM than he is in real life.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNUFC Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 That's the ME's known issue with corners and CB goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_wilko Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Just a few hours til release day, won't be playing til tomorrow but I can't wait. Already planning who to buy and sell, formation etc. What's everyone think of this: Krul Santon Colo Taylor (new if possible) Pieters Tiote Cabaye Obertan HBA Jonas Ba. Most likely sell the likes of Best, LOvernkrands, Guthrie, Raylor/Simpson and Smith if I can. Hopefully build up the funds to sign a better RW or CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmason122 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 After a quick play of the demo my starting 11 would be: Krul Santon Colo Taylor Simpson Tiote Cabaye HBA Marveux Sturridge Ba Obviously a few adjustments Would like another CM and maybe a ST to replace Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well looking forward to getting my copy tomorrow and saying cheerio to any semblance of a social life for the next wee while. With a large database and a few leagues running I'll hope to scout out a bargain or two for the first transfer window. Main priority being a left back. Hopefully keep some funds for the January sales, if the demo was anything to go by there could be some interesting players listed by the end of December (Antonio Valencia, Ibrahim Afellay, Owen Hargreaves just a few of the familiar names listed by request on my current demo save). I'll probably try to actively offload Lovenkrands, Smith, Perch and perhaps Guthrie (and no I doubt I'll get many takers for Perch...) and try and give Abeid, Vukic and Sammy a few more games than I have done so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyprettymagpie Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm not going to be getting into my game until after work today but I can't wait to get my Toon game going! I'm turning off transfer budgets in the first transfer window so everyone starts with their real life squads. Despite a fairly thin squad, Newcastle have a pretty strong starting XI this year. Once Hatem Ben Arfa returns from injury I'll be playing 4-4-1-1 Krul Simpson Taylor Coloccini Santon Obertan Tiote Cabaye Gutierrez Ben Arfa Ba Until Ben Arfa returns I'll likely play 4-4-2 with Best/Ameobi partnering Ba up-front. 4-2-3-1 also appeals to me but I'm only likely to use that in Carling Cup games or games we're overwhelming favourites, at least initially. Who is everyone playing as playmaker? I opted for Cabaye on the demo and he was really good but how effective have people found Ben Arfa or Marveaux in the same position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Game just bought from Steam, have give it an hour or so this morning when I have had chance. Still to play a game but so far my dealings have been... Staff Sacked Carver (600k fee) Signed Demichelis Players In Ganso - £23.5m (most over 48 months) Shaqiri - £10m (most of 48 months) Subotic - £12.5m (most over 48 months) £46m Total (probably about £10m up front) I seem to have slumped in to the Freddy Shepherd style of transfers - oops Players Out (mainly to cut wages and fund the above) Best - £3.7m Lover - £1.8m Williamson - £3.1m Simpson - £3m Harper - £500k Jonas - £10m Colo - £9m Roughly £30m in - most monthly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNUFC Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Game just bought from Steam, have give it an hour or so this morning when I have had chance. Still to play a game but so far my dealings have been...Staff Sacked Carver (600k fee) Signed Demichelis Players In Ganso - £23.5m (most over 48 months) Shaqiri - £10m (most of 48 months) Subotic - £12.5m (most over 48 months) £46m Total (probably about £10m up front) I seem to have slumped in to the Freddy Shepherd style of transfers - oops Players Out (mainly to cut wages and fund the above) Best - £3.7m Lover - £1.8m Williamson - £3.1m Simpson - £3m Harper - £500k Jonas - £10m Colo - £9m Roughly £30m in - most monthly I've made a feature request for Chairman PPMs, as in reality Mike Ashley would never allow you to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I've made a feature request for Chairman PPMs, as in reality Mike Ashley would never allow you to do that. very, very true! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_Gaz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Pulled my groin rushing back from town this morning to load the game, and it took nearly 2 hours to actually get the game installed and loaded! Putting more priority into backroom signings so far than players, and have so far sacked and replaced all fitness and goalkeeper coaches and John Carver. Nothing personal, but my assistant from FM11 was in the game. And he's better. I've made a move for Cheik M'Bengue though, anyone had any good experiences with him? I saw Sunderland were after him and I'd rather have a left footer playing at left back tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Pulled my groin rushing back from town this morning to load the game, and it took nearly 2 hours to actually get the game installed and loaded!Putting more priority into backroom signings so far than players, and have so far sacked and replaced all fitness and goalkeeper coaches and John Carver. Nothing personal, but my assistant from FM11 was in the game. And he's better. I've made a move for Cheik M'Bengue though, anyone had any good experiences with him? I saw Sunderland were after him and I'd rather have a left footer playing at left back tbh. Gaz, he wasn't on my Newcastle quickstart with the demo, but I loaded up a French quickstart and checked him out and he looks pretty useful. I'd say he would be a better option than playing Santon on the left all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_Gaz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 That's what I was thinking, singing M'Bengue will free Santon up to play in his natural position then, which should hopefully improve performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Erik Pieters seems really good at LB for me. Only cost 3 mil as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Erik Pieters seems really good at LB for me. Only cost 3 mil as well I could never get PSV to accept less than £7.5 million for him on the demo...and only got that low if I offered it all upfront. They wouldn't budge below 11 mill if it included payment over 48 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 @GeordieTodger How did you get Ganso? He doesn't wanna know in my game. I've got EPL, Spanish and Italian leagues loaded with large DB. What have you loaded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 @GeordieTodger How did you get Ganso? He doesn't wanna know in my game. I've got EPL, Spanish and Italian leagues loaded with large DB. What have you loaded? I've loaded the large DB with only the English league as playable - mainly due to being on a bit of a rubbish PC. Other than that, no edits, changes etc - have only played the one game too, didn't try the demo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamzterz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I've signed M'bengue for the left back, but after a few days he got a 8 week injury! Been playing a couple of games with him now though, playing stable. How do you manage to sell players for a good price? I can't sell anyone. Even if they are interested they wont pay me more than half of his value! And then i see GeordieTodger sold both Jonas and Coloccini for almost double of there value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I've loaded the large DB with only the English league as playable - mainly due to being on a bit of a rubbish PC. Other than that, no edits, changes etc - have only played the one game too, didn't try the demo. I've tried tapping him up, but he doesn't wanna discuss terms. Anyone else able to discuss terms with Ganso? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 As mentioned above, I have also had a clearout of my back team who quite frankly had shocking stats for coaches!! I requested more coaches and Ashley agreed...I'm his best mate so far! Coaches I got in are... Hassler Andy Cole (!) Demichelis (Asst Manager) Ayestaran Bistazzoni Bisciotti Mark Chamberlain Joe Corrigan Bonini Castellato Phil Cannon (1st Team Coach) With regard to the Ganso thing...I had said my season aim was to win the league...not sure if that makes me more appealing? Also, Man City had bid for him but it was rejected, I put a bid in and it was accepted. Am currently playing a deep 4-2-3-1 formation... Krul De Silvestri - Subotic - Taylor - Santon Cabaye (DLP) - Tiote (Anc) Shaq (INF) - Ganso (Treq) - HBA (INF) Ba (Adv) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 might depend on your set reputation too.. did you pick automatic? or international or local? etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I've signed M'bengue for the left back, but after a few days he got a 8 week injury! Been playing a couple of games with him now though, playing stable. How do you manage to sell players for a good price? I can't sell anyone. Even if they are interested they wont pay me more than half of his value! And then i see GeordieTodger sold both Jonas and Coloccini for almost double of there value? I've always had a funny strategy of selling...I dump everyone I don't want in my reserve side and offer them all to clubs at 25% - 50% of their value. That normally shifts a lot of them, I also agree to anyone wanting me to contribute to their wages - simply to get them off the books! With regards to Jonas and Colo. I offered them both to clubs at £10m, thinking noone would want them at that price but it may invite larger than market value offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Tactics are always something that I have never grasped in FM. At the moment I'm just playing a formation that suits the players I have but as soon as something good is released on the forums I'll be all over it. On a positive note, Subotic scored 2 in his first game. I see corner banging is still in the game, I haven't even looked at the corner settings either! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 might depend on your set reputation too.. did you pick automatic? or international or local? etc. International........ I guess it could be down to the databases loaded or maybe Geordie saying title was his aim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Well according to order tracker my copy should have been delivered, so looking forward to picking it up off the doormat when I get home from work tonight. Have next week off as well, so FM marathon ahoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 fingers crossed dandy, have to say, I'm impressed with Steam, first time I've used it - can't complain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 just a quick update. When I got home from work I started a new game on my PC with NUFC. I wanted to have more players, more leagues etc and my home PC is a lot better than the one in the office. Lo and behold Ganso no longer is interested on my new game with a few leagues selected...looks like I got lucky on my save from earlier today. Am going to start fresh anyway - Ganso was pants in the 4 games I played anyway ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_Gaz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 As mentioned above, I have also had a clearout of my back team who quite frankly had shocking stats for coaches!!I requested more coaches and Ashley agreed...I'm his best mate so far! How?? I've got him to agree to upgrade the youth facilities and organise a trial day, but as soon as I mention getting more staff, he gives me a big f*** you lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTodger Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 How?? I've got him to agree to upgrade the youth facilities and organise a trial day, but as soon as I mention getting more staff, he gives me a big f*** you lol I approached a coach and got vetoed saying I already had too many coaches, I requested more and he agreed - it is my one and only request mind so maybe that's why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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