CalumF Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 We all know that in the game we cant spend or do anything with your wages you earn. Everytime you go to renew your contract all you are bothered about really is the length of contract and the wage doesnt really matter. Just an idea, but how about getting the chance to use your wages and bet on matches every week. Making up your own accumulators. If you win and win big you can invest it back into the club and sign players. Keep losing and go into debt, the players can get uneasy around you or your team talks can suffer due to your off the field financial problems. Bit extreme maybe but just an idea to make use of the managers wage. Don't shoot be down, just an idea. Or if anyone can think of using the managers wage and incorporate it back into the game some how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I hate these type of ideas every time this sort of thread is opened there is usually a big negative response. For me spending wages is not needed in the game and the only idea I have ever seen that would slightly interest me was retiring your manager by buying a club and becoming chairman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Comes up alot of times on the forum, and around 98% of people slate the idea of being able to use your wages for anything. This though tops it all. Betting on matches?! Awful suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashley Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Betting on games is fine, but putting the club in debt by it is silly. We do need something though, as as it stands it's useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Comes up alot of times on the forum, and around 98% of people slate the idea of being able to use your wages for anything. This though tops it all. Betting on matches?! Awful suggestion. What about bungs to other clubs to lose? (couldnt resist) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Betting on games is fine, but putting the club in debt by it is silly. We do need something though, as as it stands it's useless. Wrong. It affects your security at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Wrong. It affects your security at the club. For me the length of contract affects security, not the amount of money your on. The way it stands if I can put myself on £0 a week I would cause it puts more money in the clubs bank balance. Or I earn the money I should be allowed to re invest it into the club if I want! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 For me the length of contract affects security, not the amount of money your on. The way it stands if I can put myself on £0 a week I would cause it puts more money in the clubs bank balance. Or I earn the money I should be allowed to re invest it into the club if I want! I tested this myself once, got upto 225,000 per week on a 5 year contract then tried to get sacked. Couldnt do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 The amount you are paid affects how secure you are, if you are on a 5 year contract being paid £5 a week you are in a less secure position than if you are on a 3 year £200,000 a week contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 you are not allowed to bet on results if your a manager.... however things to do with your money could be something like, if you have made say £5m......and you decide to manage down in league two, use £2m to sign players.....this in return would build a huge support from the fans, maybe put some of your cash in, to help finance a new training facility or stadium or even stand, which can be named after you......use the money to buy out your own contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich74 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 oh no sounds like fifa manager to me i tried that game once they give you a wife and kids i think i brought a boat with my money complete madness SI dont ever lower yourself to this standerd for god sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafino Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Very dark waters for SI to even think about promoting gambling. Sorry pal, gonna have to think of something else! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ok then, I'll bite... Assuming I'm managing a big club on a large salary, I'd buy a Ferrari, a whopping great house... and Penelope Cruz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 For me the length of contract affects security, not the amount of money your on. The way it stands if I can put myself on £0 a week I would cause it puts more money in the clubs bank balance. Or I earn the money I should be allowed to re invest it into the club if I want! Length of the contract means nothing if they pay you £0. Contract length is just a multiplier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dakier Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I think something is needed as wages is just daft if your not using them. Maybe buying certain items like a fancy car, several houses, your own academy, your own TV show... then with the money you have you can invest to become chairman of a club. I'd like to see the player be able to do things on a business view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Why do you want to turn FM into fifa manager Nothing needs to be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Managers helping the club financially happens sometimes: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/18/tiki-taka-peter-reid-sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I think something is needed as wages is just daft if your not using them. Maybe buying certain items like a fancy car, several houses, your own academy, your own TV show... then with the money you have you can invest to become chairman of a club. I'd like to see the player be able to do things on a business view. Go in on a racehorse with SAF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Hall Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 oh no sounds like fifa manager to me i tried that game once they give you a wife and kids i think i brought a boat with my money complete madness SI dont ever lower yourself to this standerd for god sake Yeah, and the only car you can buy is a Hyundai. :| Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 isn't betting on other football matches illegal (if you're in the sport) i know it is in Australia, not too sure about England though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puevlo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 isn't betting on other football matches illegal (if you're in the sport)i know it is in Australia, not too sure about England though I don't believe it is illegal. Not allowed to bet on your own team to lose though. Betting on them to win is fine however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red265 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hey, I got a good idea for a wage packet! Use wages to develop an academy's training focus? Creating regens with either a focus towards shooting, jumping, and/or certain styles of play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 OP needs to buy Ultimate Soccer Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Lad Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The only thing, that I see that could be useful to spend your wages on would be language courses, to help improve communication with foreign players in your team. Also if you are thinking of taking over a national squad and don't speak a language. SO, if for argument sake it would take you 200 days naturally to learn a language if you, went on a course it could cut it in half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungy Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 OP needs to buy Ultimate Soccer Manager. my thoughts exactly. would it even run on a modern computer though? No need to buy it, I believe it can be legally downloaded as it is abandonware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Using the manager wage somehow is a good idea, using it to bet it's not. It would be enough to push the money into the club budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Managers helping the club financially happens sometimes: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/18/tiki-taka-peter-reid-sacked I am sure I read that Dario Gradi gave some money to AFC Wimbledon to help get them started as he used to managed Wimbledon in the late 70's. my thoughts exactly. would it even run on a modern computer though?No need to buy it, I believe it can be legally downloaded as it is abandonware. Some people in the off topic forum have USM running on their PC's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftblmanager Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I think betting against your own team is illegal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Why do you want to turn FM into fifa managerNothing needs to be done. because FifaManager is such a successful title.......wait a minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 because FifaManager is such a successful title.......wait a minute. It doesn't mean Football Manager should avoid all features that are in FIFA Manager. There are good points to both games, and the ideal game would combine all these good points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 This however is not one of the good aspects of Fifa, my salary serves only to enhance my job security. I have to invest enough time making sure I have the right players, staff, tactics, press relationship to be concerned with what colour my new car will be or what school I'm going to send by virtual children to. Sorry to say this but SI must never, ever go down this route & tbh I would imagine that to a man/women the folk behind the game would agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 This however is not one of the good aspects of Fifa, my salary serves only to enhance my job security. I have to invest enough time making sure I have the right players, staff, tactics, press relationship to be concerned with what colour my new car will be or what school I'm going to send by virtual children to. Sorry to say this but SI must never, ever go down this route & tbh I would imagine that to a man/women the folk behind the game would agree. It can be made optional, of course. And I doubt SI will take it this far if they go down this route - investing in clubs at most, I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 SI stated the wage won't become an option to toggle on or off but IMO it makes not much sense dealing to obtain an higher salary considering this is only a cosmetic feature. Someone says it could strenghten the manager position....I dunno I have never been sacked since my first FM07 so personally I do not feel it as a plus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I like the idea of buying a club and becoming the chairman of that club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbright Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 How about collecting your wages and SI games exchanging your saved wages for vouchers for things. E.g. Save £1 million and trade them in to get money off vouchers for meat pies and bovril. It may make the match day experience better. or flat caps and those inside out leather jacket thingies that managers used to wear. or tracksuits with my initials on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I like the idea of buying a club and becoming the chairman of that club. Explain exactly what you would do as chairman (I've enclosed a postage stamp:D) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 How about collecting your wages and SI games exchanging your saved wages for vouchers for things. E.g. Save £1 million and trade them in to get money off vouchers for meat pies and bovril. It may make the match day experience better. or flat caps and those inside out leather jacket thingies that managers used to wear. or tracksuits with my initials on them. Butter leather, Schellas Hyndman style. http://www.mlssoccer.com/sites/league/files/imagecache/620x350/sites/default/files/image_nodes/2010/11/jacket.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Whos going to be the first to suggest a free sheepskin jacket at a certain wage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackemforever Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 For me the length of contract affects security, not the amount of money your on. The way it stands if I can put myself on £0 a week I would cause it puts more money in the clubs bank balance. Or I earn the money I should be allowed to re invest it into the club if I want! Well being on a higher wage does make the club less likely to sack you. If you are on £80k per week for 3 years and they want to get rid of you after 18 months then it will cost them £6,240,000 to sack you. Not a nice amount to have to pay to get rid of a manager. If you are in £5k per week then it would only cost them £390,000 to get rid of you. The AI does recognise the amount it costs to fire you and will try to avoid doing it if it will cost a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaderKP Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ultimate Soccer Manager '98 Offering bungs and what not was the best part of that particular game to spruce up the gameplay... As for FM though it's a terrible idea it would totally ruin it. As mentioned above it's a bit FIFA-ish.. i e bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ultimate Soccer Manager '98 Offering bungs and what not was the best part of that particular game to spruce up the gameplay... As for FM though it's a terrible idea it would totally ruin it. As mentioned above it's a bit FIFA-ish.. i e bad. dont forget the infamous coaches pay you 13 million per week to work for you glitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaderKP Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Haha yes! This thread has at least achieved me to want to reinstall USM The in game match commentary was quite impressive but the OTT-ness of it was just too much! Saying that I've played worse.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 terrible terrible idea... the wage for me is just a bit of realism and an indicator of how far ive come and how successful i am... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiitastic Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 We all know that in the game we cant spend or do anything with your wages you earn. Everytime you go to renew your contract all you are bothered about really is the length of contract and the wage doesnt really matter.Just an idea, but how about getting the chance to use your wages and bet on matches every week. Making up your own accumulators. If you win and win big you can invest it back into the club and sign players. Keep losing and go into debt, the players can get uneasy around you or your team talks can suffer due to your off the field financial problems. Bit extreme maybe but just an idea to make use of the managers wage. Don't shoot be down, just an idea. Or if anyone can think of using the managers wage and incorporate it back into the game some how? you do realise it's illegal to bet on football right ? that is if you are involved with a club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey2008 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I've never even looked at my wage. More important things to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 FM does not need useless new "features" that has zero impact on the gameplay or how you play it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyemann Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hey, I've got an idea for all you guys who want to use the money: Print it out and play monopoly with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whilewolf Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If you really want to use managers wages for something let us buy new backgrounds with them. It would let those who want to use the managers wages do so with out affecting the game world. It would be like steam achievements you complete something in the game but get a reward that doesn't affect the way the game plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcornell68 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If you really want to use managers wages for something let us buy new backgrounds with them. It would let those who want to use the managers wages do so with out affecting the game world. It would be like steam achievements you complete something in the game but get a reward that doesn't affect the way the game plays. It would still need someone to spend time writing code that could be spent on game play. And we'd get threads about how the pink background clashes with their curtains of something. Our wage just gives us a "score" to tell us what sort of level we're playing at. Also, it affects getting sacked and other clubs offering jobs, so it's far from cosmetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slawbawn Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Dear God, my two year old nephew wouldn't come up with such a stupid idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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