ruudvanwarren Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Try the Op mate...first link! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadada Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Thanks. I was not sure between the first link and this one in fact : Tactic updated for recent patchhttp://www.mediafire.com/?buv5ucght2vmvf2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hey Knap, Would love to see how many goals you had from corners in your most recent 4-4-2/4-2-3-1 if you do not mind? Want to give the tactic a go but do not want my CB scoring more than 10-15 goals Regards Shiraz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khoahq Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Thank you so much , i love ur 442 tactic, keep it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 If you use MU then even the AI score too many from corners. Just change the corners set up and monitor goal to corner ratio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 knap, sorry, what is better for the pre-season very high and teamwork or very high and attacking movements? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 knap, ok i just asked you this. your ass. manager make all. thank's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 With corners I also find that you often score many against minor teams but very even against similar cllubs and attributes for squad. I completly skipped pre season in last game and even went with Sunday League reputation. The team only use tactic for first game of season, as I often just use the original tactic pre season. I just use Ass Man as no evidence of the best set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3D@T0r Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Well what can I say... the most recent 442 is helping my Fiorentina team score by the bucketload! 3rd in 1st season with only one recognised striker (using Cerci and a 36 year old Crespo up front as cover for Jovetic... my 1st choice broke a leg after 10 games!) and I smashed the scoring charts. I am struggling with defence though. Still smashing in the goals, but Christ the team can't defend worth a damn. Any advice you can give me for this Knap? They aren't the quickest CBs in the world but the full backs are accomplished. I haven't tinkered much but tried to reign in the FBs forward runs away... seems to help but still conceding too much which means if it's a tight game I know I'm always at a slight disadvantage. Appreciate the help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 I don't think slow is an issue just quality as I tend to use slow players in a squad that others discard. Try the 451 and use TW as well as reducing runs, but the best defence is attack in this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubisch Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I am also conceding alot with the 4-4-2. where is your 4-5-1? I can only see the 4-4-2 one under the header "FM12 PATCH 12.2 TACTICS (Pre patch tactics in thread)" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Post 611 and 612 for formation variations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Gah, there's been another patch. Do you reckon it's going to have any effect on your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Gah, there's been another patch. Do you reckon it's going to have any effect on your tactics? Wouldn't imagine so. Just like 12.2.1 didn't change anything ME wise. They're just hotfixes in essence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 your 4-4-2 is the best tactic i ever use. with sochaux after half season i am second in the league without transfers. you are GREAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have found that once the 442 becomes fluid I pretty much stop scoring with it. The game this year is maddening, I just can't figure out how to be consistent for a whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 knap, does the tactic works with patch 12.2.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 knap, yes it works very well...... euro cup away against sparta praga i won 5-2 at home in ligue 1 against Olympic lione (the first in the ligue 1) i won 6-1...... you are very GREAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Wouldn't imagine so. Just like 12.2.1 didn't change anything ME wise. They're just hotfixes in essence. Hmmm, I think you're right. Still going strong 10 games later after the patch for me so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hmmm, I think you're right. Still going strong 10 games later after the patch for me so far... Checked the ME number, it's still v997, so yeah, it hasn't changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 knap, sorry, you use your ass. manager also for OI? thank's again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Never use OIs or tick the box in team policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 perfect! you are GREAT my friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3D@T0r Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I have found that once the 442 becomes fluid I pretty much stop scoring with it.The game this year is maddening, I just can't figure out how to be consistent for a whole season. I am finding this lately as well. I don't understand how I go from smashing Man City and Porto 5-1, 4-0 and having a good battle with Milan and Inter (narrow 0-1 losses) to suddenly losing 4-2 to 19th place Cesena. I am adjusting the tactic to away games as well and opposition. I just don't understand at this point. Team talks are good they nearly always say, "look relaxed" or "looking fired up/motivated" after I do them. I will try your 4-5-1 knap because I am very impressed so far. It must just be something wrong with my team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruudvanwarren Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I used two 4231 tactics with minor differences http://www.mediafire.com/?ry4by71pzlnx6c4 and http://www.mediafire.com/?ckr889kce33gb9d Knap, What's the minor difference between the 2 4231's - and which do you use most regularly? You had any further break throughs with any other tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 knap, finish second in the league with sochaux, semifinal of franch cup and ligue cup quarter final of euro cup against chelsea best manager of the year thanks my friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 knap, finish second in the league with sochaux, semifinal of franch cup and ligue cup quarter final of euro cup against chelsea best manager of the year thanks my friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 triple 4231 and I think I adjusted ttbs. I have 2 442s one with adjusted forward settings and the other based on the TC tactic Shiraz set up, which in not a CA tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykybruno Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 i use your 106 points with man city. the first on your thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Knap, do you have a genie scout rating file that we can use? I usually build my own based on a TC tactic for FM 10 you posted long ago, but surely it would be more efficient if we have one directly from you. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Can you elaborate as not sure what you are after. Genie uses a % rating based on atributes but not easy to transfer to the filter system, the Scouts uses stars and the Ass Man gives roles and duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I mean the .grf file that you can save from your ratings, based on attributes, I don't know if you modify like I do, but it's something like this, for the GK position for example: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/genieq.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I tend to use Genie for team ratings and rely on scout reports in game. If there was a way to bring Genie ratings into the game I would use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Ah, I tought you used it to give even more accurate team ratings based on the stats you need the most for your tactics. Do you think that by giving 100% of weight for the TC key attributes, like giving 100 on rating for reflex for goalkeeper and 0 for acceleration, ratings would still be accurate? That's what I do I tend to use this system mainly for signing cheaper but still quality players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have been using a tweaked version of Knaps 442 that was working very well to me. Then I tweaked it a little more, and came up with 3 very similar tactics, but with different formations: 4-4-2; 4-4-1-1; and 4-1-4-1. The results from the tests I made looked very good, but unfortunatly I haven't the time to make a proper test, so if anyone is interested in trying and testing, here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?qiqmallj332aqqk If you test it, please leave some feedback. Knap, I hope you don't mind posting these tactics here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a speadsheet for attributes but like past role model spreadsheets it would rely on Genie. I never look at stats/attributes for tactics because of need to over-rotate in FM, therfore you end up with a variety of players for each position. Main variation is whether players fit a formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ah I see, would you mind uploading that spreadsheet, sometimes I get a bit confused on which attributes are key. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Just use the Genie profile. If you look at team its MU, MC Spurs so good enough. If you combine with ca/pa its all you really need, but a scout report is easier to use unless you favour a particular attribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMayhem Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Great tactics, knap. I too have seen team performance drop mid season. I beleive this is because i play the same team too often and not rotate. Do you think this might be the cause? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesseh Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 The latest 106 PT is really the best tactic I ever used in any FM, I get so many CCC, and score a lot. Defense maybe isn't that great but I'm always winning by big margins, and I don't seem to have a performance drop mid season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Rotation depends upon keeping squad happy and key players playing most matches. I seldom change gk and cb pairing and usually a key forward. Not sure there is any direct connection with form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMayhem Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'll try your recommendation on rotation. I'm playing as Grasshopper in Swiss. I lost last 3 games using 106 pt 442, but I can't complain too ... still in 2nd place. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMayhem Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I won't catch Basel this season, even though we outscored them. Overall happy with how Grasshoppers played. Media prediction was 5th, but a 2nd place finish is good as a stepping stone. It gets the team into the euro cup! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansah Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Your 4-4-2 is IN-CRE-DI-BLE !!!! Even stronger than FuSS one. i totally destroyed Monaco with Lens (only Soukouna recruted as he was contract free) 9-1 ! (the two teams are equal imo) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMayhem Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Grasshopper, season 1 Finished second in swiss league Lifted the swiss cup Qualified for the euro cup Manager of the year Player of the year My hats off to you, knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magaca Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Knap, I'm using your updated 451 with Birmingham in the championship (took over in 2015...) I've got the best squad in the league according to Genie, but i seem to be struggling a bit. My players give away posession far too much, and i get hit on breaks. Generally my problems are defensive, as i score a good amount of goals. Any tips? Should i try one of the other tactics? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 I will look at other formations but atm I would use the 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magaca Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 The 106 pt one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ireland64 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 knap Hello, I am using your tactics, play with Monaco in the second ligue, I started with 4-4-2, but I realized that I am better with the 4-2-3-1, no co are many differences between the two tactics, or I'm wrong, but the attitude seems different in the field, I left the coach in the preparation of the second match, I done well? thanks for the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 The 106pt is the tactic I'm using with Sunday League rep, and is working well with latest patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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