steve20hibees Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Every so often, when I am playing a game the screen just freezes and I have to reboot my computer, meaning I lose everything from when I previously saved the game. I now save before every game but is annoying when I'm in the middle of a game. I take it my graphics card or whatever isn't good enough to properly play the game then? I have no idea how to update things on the computer so that's no good. Anyone else had an issue with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Go to Control panel, System and on he left pane click on Device Manage. C lick on Dispay Adaptors and expand to show the graphics card. Then click on drivers and there is an option to search for a newer version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20hibees Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I tried just playing with the 2D pitch and it still crashes alot. Surely it's not the graphics card then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Could be your running something in the background that is conflicting with the game or Steam e.g. AVG. Updated drivers are a must though. You might need to look at some of the options re FAQ thread on gaming issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Choke Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 does it crash during a match?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20hibees Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yeah, only ever crashes during a match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt ex SEGA Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 The mode it's played in probably won't affect whether it crashes or not to be honest. Always worth updating graphics card drivers and directX if you're struggling with crashes as these are the most common cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Choke Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 do the players legs only move and nothing else?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20hibees Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 No. Nothing moves and I can't even move the mouse around. It just freezes the whole computer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 When that happens if you ctrl+alt+delete to get he task manager you can see if the game is "running" or "not responding". You can also end the game to avoid a reboot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20hibees Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Ctrl + alt + delete doesn't work. The keyboard and mouse stop working altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR Choke Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 it happened to me and only the players legs moved. Load up your game click the FM sign at the top right click preferences then 'display and sounds' look at the section called 3D settings at the bottom set graphic detail to low untick show stadiums, outside scenes and wheather effects do you hae the internet up while playing FM?! after you do all that restart pc/laptop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Does this happen only with FM? If so, the post above re the settings might be the solution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt ex SEGA Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 If you've updated the drivers etc - can you post us information from a dxdiag so we can check into the problem? http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/279162-Football-Manager-2012-*OFFICIAL*-FAQ?p=7184733&viewfull=1#post7184733 Cheers Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 If the computer has frozen completely then it tends to be a hardware fault - it's often the first sign of overheating. Once you've ruled out driver updates, I would download a program called Speccy from Piriform to see how high your component temperatures are getting. The whole computer freezing is normally done by the motherboard to prevent damage to other components. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dperry Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 hmm. I have exactly the same problem and after updating drivers and optimising the system it was still happening. I also assumed my graphics card was overheating so I gave the inside of the PC a good clean removing a LOT of dust from inside (BTW Don't use a household vacuum cleaner to do this you will zap your components with static) The problem is still happening but seems less frequent so this was probably the cause. I include my dxdiag in case there is something in common between our systems. ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/1/2011, 11:58:23 Machine name: NEW Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System Product Name BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/17/05 21:51:32 Ver: 08.00.12 Processor: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz Memory: 2048MB RAM Page File: 366MB used, 4597MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. Network Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a) DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4850 Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9442) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9442&SUBSYS_24701682&REV_00 Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1360 x 768 (16 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7218 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 9/8/2011 17:25:42, 303104 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 9/8/2011 18:24:14, 7180800 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D702-11CF-0069-7A04A1C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x9442 SubSys ID: 0x24701682 Revision ID: 0x0000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run ------------- Sound Devices ------------- Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [C880] Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0442 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 11/19/2003 02:13:54, 366160 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Creative HW Accel Level: Full Cap Flags: 0xF5F Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000 Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: Yes EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes I3DL2 Listen/Src: No, No Sensaura ZoomFX: No Registry: OK Sound Test Result: Not run Description: ATI HD Audio rear output Default Sound Playback: No Default Voice Playback: No Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1001 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: AtiHdmi.sys Driver Version: 5.00.40001.0009 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 7/20/2007 17:40:10, 84992 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: ATI HW Accel Level: Full Cap Flags: 0xB5B Min/Max Sample Rate: 32000, 48000 Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2 Listen/Src: No, No Sensaura ZoomFX: No Registry: OK Sound Test Result: Not run --------------------- Sound Capture Devices --------------------- Description: Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000. Default Sound Capture: Yes Default Voice Capture: Yes Driver Name: usbaudio.sys Driver Version: 5.01.2600.5512 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Date and Size: 4/13/2008 18:45:12, 60032 bytes Cap Flags: 0x41 Format Flags: 0x4 Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [C880] Default Sound Capture: No Default Voice Capture: No Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0442 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Date and Size: 11/19/2003 02:13:54, 366160 bytes Cap Flags: 0x41 Format Flags: 0xFFF ----------- DirectMusic ----------- DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002 Acceleration: Enabled Ports: SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [C880], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [C880], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [C880] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [C880] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [C880] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [C880] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [C880] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal Registry: OK Test Result: Not run ------------------- DirectInput Devices ------------------- Device Name: Mouse Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/a Vendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Keyboard Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/a Vendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: USB Receiver Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: USB Receiver Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: USB Receiver Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: USB Receiver Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 FF Driver: n/a Poll w/ Interrupt: No Registry: OK ----------- USB Devices ----------- + USB Root Hub | Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x026D | Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub | Service: usbhub | Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 18:45:37, 59520 bytes | Driver: usbd.sys, 8/17/2001 13:03:02, 4736 bytes ---------------- Gameport Devices ---------------- + PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge | Location: PCI bus 0, device 16, function 0 | Matching Device ID: pci\cc_0604 | Service: pci | Driver: pci.sys, 4/13/2008 18:36:44, 68224 bytes | +-+ Creative Game Port | | Location: PCI bus 4, device 9, function 1 | | Matching Device ID: pci\ven_1102&dev_7003&subsys_00401102 | | Service: gameenum | | Driver: gameenum.sys, 4/13/2008 18:45:29, 10624 bytes ------------ PS/2 Devices ------------ + Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c517&mi_00 | Lower Filters: LHidFilt | Service: kbdhid | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 18:39:48, 14592 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 18:39:48, 24576 bytes | Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 6/17/2009 16:56:06, 35472 bytes | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 11/2/2006 16:09:50, 1419232 bytes | + Terminal Server Keyboard Driver | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd | Upper Filters: kbdclass | Service: TermDD | Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 00:13:20, 40840 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 18:39:48, 24576 bytes | + Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC517 | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c517&mi_01&col01 | Upper Filters: LMouFilt | Lower Filters: LHidFilt | Service: mouhid | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 12:48:00, 12160 bytes | Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 18:39:48, 23040 bytes | Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 6/17/2009 16:56:06, 35472 bytes | Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 6/17/2009 16:56:16, 37392 bytes | Driver: KHALMNPR.Exe, 6/17/2009 16:55:10, 55824 bytes | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 11/2/2006 16:09:50, 1419232 bytes | + Terminal Server Mouse Driver | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou | Upper Filters: mouclass | Service: TermDD | Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 00:13:20, 40840 bytes | Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 18:39:48, 23040 bytes ---------------------------- DirectPlay Service Providers ---------------------------- DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512) DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512) DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512) DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512) Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512) IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512) Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512) Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512) DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run DirectPlay Test Result: Not run Registry: OK ------------------- DirectPlay Adapters ------------------- DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1 DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: SonicWALL Virtual Adapter - IPv4 - DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 - ----------------------- DirectPlay Voice Codecs ----------------------- Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s MS-PCM 64 kbit/s MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s TrueSpeech 8.6 kbit/s ------------------------- DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps ------------------------- ------------------------ Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives ------------------------ Drive: C: Free Space: 236.7 GB Total Space: 472.4 GB File System: NTFS Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-00D2B0 Drive: E: Free Space: 27.3 GB Total Space: 70.9 GB File System: NTFS Model: WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR5 Drive: J: Free Space: 4.7 GB Total Space: 305.2 GB File System: NTFS Model: Seagate External Drive USB Device Drive: D: Model: SONY DVD RW DW-G120A Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 18:40:46, 62976 bytes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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