donhughberto Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hi Guys, Tactic made with base from Dave houghs 2011 winger tactic, many changes but as usual kudos to Dave. Man Utd second season, so don't hammer me if it doesn't work with lower league. Can't seem to get images correct, so i will explain. Flat back four. One DM. One CM. Two Wingers. Two Forwards. Team Instructions, attacking, short passing style, tempo and width normal, time wasting rare, defensive line deep. My last 10 results are. Everton (H) 4-0 Man City (A) 2-1 Maribor (A) 4-0 West Brom (H) 6-1 Bolton (A) 5-1 Liverpool (H) 4-0 Valencia (H) 6-0 Fulham (A) 6-1 CSKA Moscow (A) 5-1 Aston Villa (H) 6-1, had a man send off after 10 minutes. I been tweaking and tweaking and finally seems to have come right, anybody want to have a go feel free. Remember Kudos to Dave for the base. enjoy Now tested with Wimbledon tactic highly successful (playing league 2). I recommend this version to everyone. See results below http://www.gamefront.com/files/20984142/tackillerwimbeldon.tac Pitch size : Minimum OI : None Match Prep : Teamwork, High Best header : Right sided CB. Some Images http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/chelseae.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/result1.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/result2f.jpg/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 have you changed the tactic at all from the one you posted in houghs thread? I downloaded that one earlier today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yeah its much changed, one DM moved into MC with new instructions, wingers now arrive late in box. I have top players here but its fun so i posted it. Give it a go. It worked great in snow also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zul_moreno Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 yeah....must try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison7 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 who is playmaker and target man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 who is playmaker and target man? I never select either. One forward is advanced forward type and one deep lying forward type, just beat swansea 11-0. I have a team of world class players but be interested to see how it does at a lower level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth250480 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I never select either. One forward is advanced forward type and one deep lying forward type, just beat swansea 11-0. I have a team of world class players but be interested to see how it does at a lower level. What is your 1st team line up with man utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 De gea, Srna, Vidic, Pique, Evra, Fletcher, Anderson, Young, Nani, Rooney, Hernandez Also go Ganso, Neymar, M'Villa, Wellbeck and usual suspects. very strong team, lost lost to chelsea away, first lost this season in Feb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestfan6 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 i was struggling to get my forest game going so i thought i'd start over and try this tactic out. It's early in the season but this looks promising : http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7937/nottinghamforestfixture.png Along with this : http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9421/westhamvnottmforestspli.png Won my next 3 aswell 2-1 , 6-1 , 3-0 ..... so thanks are in order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 i was struggling to get my forest game going so i thought i'd start over and try this tactic out.It's early in the season but this looks promising : http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7937/nottinghamforestfixture.png Along with this : http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9421/westhamvnottmforestspli.png Won my next 3 aswell 2-1 , 6-1 , 3-0 ..... so thanks are in order Nice form, good to see it helping people. I just hit a mini slump, as i had to play 10 games in 3 weeks, well feels like it and injuries to booth. But just nailed Arsenal away 3 nil so happy days. Once i bore of my Man U save i will go down the leagues also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 One thing big games away, if you struggle move to 2 DM. Will protect defence better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antg1985 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Is the DM a creative player? Could Joao Moutinho play there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Is the DM a creative player? Could Joao Moutinho play there? For me i would retrain as i did with anderson, he should fit MC part of tactic perfect though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegav Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thank you for this tactic. Made a few tweaks but possibly one of the best tactics I've tried in FM ever. First match with it was a 8-0 victory against Tottenham (playing as Chelsea) followed by 10-0 against Blackburn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thank you for this tactic. Made a few tweaks but possibly one of the best tactics I've tried in FM ever. First match with it was a 8-0 victory against Tottenham (playing as Chelsea). What did you tweak, as i mentioned in first post, its a base Mr Hough tactic massive tweaked. Share any ideas you have. In big games away it is a bit loose at the back, let me know if anybody has suggestions, i use two dm to protect but it could be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegav Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm merely letting my strikers switch position as I've got some pretty versatile players at those spots. Run from deep "sometimes" on DMR. Changed wingers crossing to backline. Nothing major so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm merely letting my strikers switch position as I've got some pretty versatile players at those spots. Run from deep "sometimes" on DMR. Changed wingers crossing to backline. Nothing major so far. Sounds good idea on strikers. My wingers are getting into box to slide home goals as my FWL runs into channels and crosses in. Causing havoc at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Just about to plug this tactic into my spurs side in 2013. Hopefully i dont struggle to much against big teams away. What would you suggest ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Just about to plug this tactic into my spurs side in 2013. Hopefully i dont struggle to much against big teams away. What would you suggest ? I have an idea to test, maybe move wingers to MR ML, 2 DM, Just a thought, untested but i will let you know, i only lost once away this season (just once in total). I do see likes of arsenal, chelsea, city get in behind alot and only my great back four save me, so trying to close that door without losing attacking edge going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.2shared.com/file/9Jw7dtOW/TackillerAway.html Heres another to try, 2 DM, MR, ML, i have used for a few games and seems to tighten up defence a bit, maybe for big away days, not tested bar 3 games so for people to try only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I think im going to stick with your first one mate. I hate using 2 dms it means im wasting the talent of my more attacking midfielders ( the most i would venture out to is one cm and one dm). Is the first tactic still working well for you though? 1.What is the goal scoring like for your strikers and wingers? 2. How did you get on in the prem and champions league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 I win prem league first year. So far season 2 still alive in everything. Played 23 Win 22 For 100(goals scored) against 18 in league Alot of coorner goals, Danny welbeck 34 goals, Rooney 21 goals, Herandez 22 goals, Nani 12 goals, Neymar 19 goals, Ganso 9 goals, for some reason welbeck is a beast for me. You could try moving wingers to ML and MR and keep MCL and have one DMR, that might be ok also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 cool. And what about your results against madrid and barcelona ( and other such standard of teams)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 cool. And what about your results against madrid and barcelona ( and other such standard of teams)? Barcelona i knocked out first season home 2-1, away 2-2. Real madrid 1st knockout stage home 3-0 away 1-0, this was with different tactics last year and alot of luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegav Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just hit March with this tactic. (Goals in all comps with my strikers) Torres 36 starters, 6 subs - 44 goals, 14 assist. Agüero 33 starters, 4 subs - 33 goals(5 on penalty), 21 assist. Neymar, 20 starters, 12 subs - 12 goals, 10 assist. Defiantly a killer tac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just hit March with this tactic. (Goals in all comps with my strikers) Torres 36 starters, 6 subs - 44 goals, 14 assist. Agüero 33 starters, 4 subs - 33 goals(5 on penalty), 21 assist. Neymar, 20 starters, 12 subs - 12 goals, 10 assist. Defiantly a killer tac. Pretty much the same here. Works great for a team full of top players. Last game yesterday i beat Inter Milan 5-3 away in first knockout of champions. I am conceding a few goals against similar opposition away so that has to be fixed but at home i am hammering everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share Posted November 3, 2011 Follow Up In April Lost one and drawn one this year. I am conceding goals in champions but scoring more Knockout Stage One - Beat Inter 5-3 away and 5-1 at home Just played first leg of q/final beat Milan 5-4 away, followed that by a 6 nil win at anfield over liverpool This tactic does not lack goals, anybody else still playing with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 im currently testing out one of the devasto versions to see if it works on this patch. if tests fail ill get onto using yours you in the semi final of the cl now then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hammered them 6 nil at home with my second string, would recommend you trying it out, but first get it trained up in match preperation! So far in league Played 29 Scored 132 conceded 19 Remember i have a top class team but should average out at any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 its fine. I have a top class team for spurs aswell, im in 2014. Dude, what is your match prep? Also i will probs line up like this? vrsaljko mangane chillieni criscito lucas leiva modric gotze bale cavani tevez does that put everyone in the right position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Match prep is teamwork always for 2 years. No OI. Teamtalks up to you. Top team there should be good with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 wow, nice results..... What is the recommend pitch size? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauchampWarman Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 can someone upload to gamefront please cant download it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Pitch size Minimum due to high closed down! Heres new link http://www.gamefront.com/files/20958851/tackiller.tac Guys i am glad this works for people. Credit for this tactic is shared with Dave Hough. I got lucky tweaking it. He is the tactic master Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauchampWarman Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 what about the away big game tactic do you have gamefront for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 what about the away big game tactic do you have gamefront for that? It didnt make any difference! I am still conceding a few in these games. Its a work in progress. I reckon you should stick to tackiller. You will lose the odd game where teamtalk goes wrong but when you get it right its great. Example i went to liverpool, 34 shots, 23 on target, 8CCC, and 6 goals. You also get alot of corners added into mix. If anybody has altered it and find anything, please share to make it better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Your tweaks are great but sometimes I conceeded too many goals, my keeper (Oliver Baumann) had only a 3 clean sheet in hole season, has someone have any tips to improve defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Your tweaks are great but sometimes I conceeded too many goals, my keeper (Oliver Baumann) had only a 3 clean sheet in hole season, has someone have any tips to improve defence? I have top defenders and top goalkeepers but i feared this at a lower level. I am still hoping Dave might look at this and give us some tips. Are you scoring many goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yeah I usually win the game but score is ex. 5-4, 6-5, I dont like conceeded, because in real life I play on goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yeah I usually win the game but score is ex. 5-4, 6-5, I dont like conceeded, because in real life I play on goal You could try a bit of Man marking at back, lower mentality of the back 5 players 2 notchs, and creative freedom one notch, what is your media prediction and what team are you. Is all your games like that? I only played as Man Utd in 2012. I had a game as burghhausson(spelling) in Germany in 2011 and managed to get them all the way to europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I play Legia Warsaw in Poland, media prediction 3th place but i'm on the top but still have the worst defence in whole league. I only tried this tac on Legia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Should not be that bad if teams around you are similar. I will run a test on league 2 side over weekend and see what happens. Do you have any pics of your goalkeeper and back 4. The problem i am having is balance. More defense means less attacking and less goals. I will have another go on defence but i am no tactic master. Thanks for feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Nope I didnt have any pics right now but i'll try to make it and show you tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonertopcat Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 just used ur tactic in my arsenal save and lost 3-0 to wolves at home, had 8 shots compared to there 18, will give it another go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 You would need to get match preparation up before using it. Some testing done today, reduce closing down on each of the four defenders by 2 notches. 3-2 at home to Real, made this change after ronaldo walked through me. Second game was no contest win 4-1 away (my best away result in champions). I am going to try a few more things over the weekend and if successful i will post a new version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 just used ur tactic in my arsenal save and lost 3-0 to wolves at home, had 8 shots compared to there 18, will give it another go Earlier in season lost 4-1 away to Chelsea. I got my teamtalk so wrong. I always use assertive now. Seems to be the best for everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrefc80 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 anyone got a screen shot of this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Mate Havent got my laptop on (girlfriend nite!) but i will explain, one goalkeeper, flat back four, dm (on right hand side), cm (on left hand side), two high wingers, and two stikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestfan6 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 just past christmas in first season using this tactic. P25 W19 D3 L3 goals for 95 against 34 ... i'm forest by the way. Had some pretty big wins 10-0 and 9-1 , have had a couple of 4-3 and 5-3 but as long as i win i'm not too fussed. Only blip was a 5-2 spanking at burnley but think this had more to do with player fitness , i would also strongly suggest using assertive in teamtalks i've had about 4 or 5 comebacks at half-time. Great tactic , if defending was better it would be immense but i aint gonna grumble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Just finished my test with devasto. It went really well, just disappointed i lost the champs league final to man utd by an own goal. So going to try out your tactic and see if i can have the same success (Y) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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