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The answer to the very popular question 'How many leagues can my PC run?' is easy. You can run ALL leagues in the game. However, based on your PC specs speed experience will differ a lot. With decreased number of leagues speed increases, but it's still quite subjective if the game runs fast or not.

With this benchmark we will get exact figures, so it will be easy to compare the differences in processing speed between various PC configurations.

Here is how you can run the benchmark.

Download this save game. ALL leagues in the game are loaded (117).

Ensure that:

- Processing Fixtures is set to Fastest (Can't Interrupt)

- Auto Save Interval is disabled.

Go on holiday for a week (don't resign) , and measure time needed for processing. This website is quite handy for measuring: http://www.online-stopwatch.com/ if you don't have stopwatch.

Post the results in following format:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550

CPU Frequency: 3400 MHz

RAM: 4GB 800 MHz

OS: Win 7

Time: 9 min 16 sec

I have results for one more machine:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 (unlocked at X4 B50)

CPU Frequency: 3600 MHz

RAM: 4GB 1600 MHz

OS: Win 7

Time: 6 min 29 sec

As you can see, processing time is greatly reduced with unlocked and slightly more overclocked CPU.

[TABLE=class: grid]

[TR]

[TD]TIME[/TD]

[TD]CPU[/TD]

[TD=width: 113]FREQUENCY[/TD]

[TD=width: 113]RAM[/TD]

[TD=width: 84]OS[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]3 min 19 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 3960X[/TD]

[TD]4400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]16GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]3 min 27 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 2600K[/TD]

[TD]4430 MHz[/TD]

[TD]16GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]3 min 48 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 2600K[/TD]

[TD]4428 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 824MHz ?[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]3 min 58 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 2600K[/TD]

[TD]4500 MHz[/TD]

[TD]16GB[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 12 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 3930K[/TD]

[TD]4290 MHz[/TD]

[TD]32GB 1600MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 20 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2500K[/TD]

[TD]4300 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 32 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 920[/TD]

[TD]3800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 36 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7-2600[/TD]

[TD]4100 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 37 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 930[/TD]

[TD]3801 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 38 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2500K[/TD]

[TD]4400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 40 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 3770[/TD]

[TD]3400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 40 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2500K[/TD]

[TD]4400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 42 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 930[/TD]

[TD]3700 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]4 min 58 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 930[/TD]

[TD]3600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 02 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 970[/TD]

[TD]3800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]12GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 02 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD FX-8150[/TD]

[TD]4515 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 2000MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 07 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 920[/TD]

[TD]3800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 21 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2400[/TD]

[TD]3100 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1333 Mhz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 22 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 960[/TD]

[TD]3200 MHz[/TD]

[TD]12GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 30 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2500[/TD]

[TD]3300 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4 GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 30 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 2500[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD]8GB[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 37 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i3 2100[/TD]

[TD]3100 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 45 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 2670QM[/TD]

[TD]2900 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 51 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 950[/TD]

[TD]3200 MHz[/TD]

[TD]12GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]5 min 56 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550[/TD]

[TD]3825 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 900 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 01 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Duo E8400[/TD]

[TD]3400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4 GB 800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 02 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD Phenom II X6 1090T[/TD]

[TD]3800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4 GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 15 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Duo E8500[/TD]

[TD]3800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB[/TD]

[TD]Win Vista[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 29 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD Phenom II X4 B50[/TD]

[TD]3600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 51 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600[/TD]

[TD]3000 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 667 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win Vista 64[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 54 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD Phenom II X6 1090T[/TD]

[TD]3200 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4 GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]6 min 7 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i7 950[/TD]

[TD]3000 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]7 min 09 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Quad Q9950[/TD]

[TD]2830 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]7 min 50 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD Phenom II x4 840[/TD]

[TD]3200 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 1600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]8 min 12 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600[/TD]

[TD]2400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]8 min 16 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 480M[/TD]

[TD]2670 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4 GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]8 min 30 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core Duo PC E7500[/TD]

[TD]2930 MHz[/TD]

[TD]6GB 1066 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]8 min 52 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core 2 Quad 6700[/TD]

[TD]3340 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 800MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]9 min 16 sec[/TD]

[TD]AMD Phenom II X2 550[/TD]

[TD]3400 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]9 min 17 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 760[/TD]

[TD]2800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]8GB 1333 MHz[/TD]

[TD]OSX 10.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]11 min 17 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel Core i5 540M[/TD]

[TD]2530 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 1067 MHz[/TD]

[TD]OSX 10.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]11 min 30 sec[/TD]

[TD]Intel T4500[/TD]

[TD]2300 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 2300 MHz ?[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]14 min 03 sec[/TD]

[TD]Dual CPU Intel Xeon[/TD]

[TD]3600 MHz[/TD]

[TD]4GB 800 MHz[/TD]

[TD]Win 7 64-bit[/TD]

[/TR]

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9950 processor

CPU Frequency: 2.83 GHz

RAM: 4GB 800 MHz

OS: Win 7 64 bit

Time: 7 min 09 sec

Played in window mode, ran it in the background for a while, whilst I browsed the net.

I've noticed detial level is set to default. Maybe setting it to maximum would be better for benchmarking?

Awesome thread by the way!

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

CPU Frequency: 2.40GHz (stock)

RAM: 8GB 800 MHz

OS: Win 7 64 bit

Time: 8 min 12 sec

Not bad I guess but those "i" series are really beginning to show the age of my CPU :(

I have an Intel Q8400 and 8GB DDR3 1066mhz RAM and I personally wouldn't upgrade to an i5 mate. i5's are dual cores (apart from the 750 series) with hyper threading. i7's are worth the upgrade, but the speed difference (between i7 and Intel QXXXX) isn't mind blowing. Your CPU may be old, but its still quick enough.

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I have an Intel Q8400 and 8GB DDR3 1066mhz RAM and I personally wouldn't upgrade to an i5 mate. i5's are dual cores (apart from the 750 series) with hyper threading. i7's are worth the upgrade, but the speed difference (between i7 and Intel QXXXX) isn't mind blowing. Your CPU may be old, but its still quick enough.
Er, the speed difference between the Q6600 and i5-2500K is mind-blowing: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53?vs=288

Here's your CPU against the i5-2500K: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=288

Nehalem i7s are slightly slower but Sandy Bridge i7s are even quicker. Even Nehalem i5s are quite a bit quicker than your CPU: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=191

If you can afford it, upgrading from a Q6600 to, say, an i5-2500K or i5-2400 would provide you with a huge performance boost.

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Er, the speed difference between the Q6600 and i5-2500K is mind-blowing: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53?vs=288

Here's your CPU against the i5-2500K: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=288

Nehalem i7s are slightly slower but Sandy Bridge i7s are even quicker. Even Nehalem i5s are quite a bit quicker than your CPU: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=191

If you can afford it, upgrading from a Q6600 to, say, an i5-2500K or i5-2400 would provide you with a huge performance boost.

Is it really worth shelling out £200+? Unless you're an avid gamer, I wouldnt say so. Just a personal preference of mine, but my next jump would be i7

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Is it really worth shelling out £200+? Unless you're an avid gamer, I wouldnt say so. Just a personal preference of mine, but my next jump would be i7
That is an open question. :) It is up to the user...

If you are looking to upgrade now, the i5-2500K is a good step. Ivy Bridge is coming out next year which is a while away but I suspect the i5-2500K is going to end up becoming a mid-range processor when that happens. It's priced very competitively, too, and has ridiculous overclocking potential.

If you are happy with your Q8400, then stick with it. If you are looking to buy next year, wait for Ivy Bridge. That's what I would do.

The i7-2600K is basically the i5-2500K which is better at heavily-threaded applications, with a much worse price per performance ratio. I wouldn't aim for that unless I am waiting until Ivy Bridge comes out, pushes the i7-2600K's price down and that chip turns into an upper-mid-range chip.

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I have an Intel Q8400 and 8GB DDR3 1066mhz RAM and I personally wouldn't upgrade to an i5 mate. i5's are dual cores (apart from the 750 series) with hyper threading. i7's are worth the upgrade, but the speed difference (between i7 and Intel QXXXX) isn't mind blowing. Your CPU may be old, but its still quick enough.

Oh I have no intention of upgrading at all. I was just saying the i series are pretty good compaired to my older quad. However it must be noted my quad is running on much slower ram as well as an older motherboard. And as you say the Q6600 is still a fine piece of work. It can handle anything I throw at it with ease. If I wanted a new i7 I'd have to change my motherboard/CPU/RAM. So basically a new PC. Not worth the gains really.

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Oh I have no intention of upgrading at all. I was just saying the i series are pretty good compaired to my older quad. However it must be noted my quad is running on much slower ram as well as an older motherboard. And as you say the Q6600 is still a fine piece of work. It can handle anything I throw at it with ease. If I wanted a new i7 I'd have to change my motherboard/CPU/RAM. So basically a new PC. Not worth the gains really.

Uhh. An i5 is leagues better than any Q series chip, it's not all about cores and speed.

And sorry to burst your bubble but uhh... Heres an actual website with reliable benchmarks. Just find your CPU on there and you can see how good it is. It's a good idea but... yeah, already been done. Admittedly it doesn't take RAM into account but the difference ram makes is pretty much moot.(Do not, some processors vary slightly, but not by more than some guy with a stopwatch will)

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I thought I'd give it a try on my Macs to see what it was like...depressing how slow they are compared to the rest!

CPU: Intel Core i5 540M

CPU Frequency: 2530 MHz

RAM: 4GB 1067 MHz

OS: OSX 10.7

Time: 11 min 17 sec

CPU: Intel Core i5 760

CPU Frequency: 2800 MHz

RAM: 8GB 1333 MHz

OS: OSX 10.7

Time: 9 min 17 sec

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Well, the more you increase the detail level the better the multi-core cpus perform (in comparison to the single/dual core cpus). Seems like in this file the detail level is almost minimal. It would be interesting to make the same comparison with full detail - I did it on my system (set international and club to Maximum in the top right corner).

Anyway, my result:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600

CPU Frequency: 4100MHz (105*39 when all cores under full load)

RAM: DDR3 8GB 1333 MHz

OS: Win7 64bit

Time: 4 min 36 sec

Result on full detail:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600

CPU Frequency: 4100MHz (105,1*39 when all cores under full load)

RAM: DDR3 8GB 1333 MHz

OS: Win7 64bit

Time: 16 min 11 sec

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I thought I'd give it a try on my Macs to see what it was like...depressing how slow they are compared to the rest!

CPU: Intel Core i5 540M

CPU Frequency: 2530 MHz

RAM: 4GB 1067 MHz

OS: OSX 10.7

Time: 11 min 17 sec

CPU: Intel Core i5 480M

CPU Frequency: 2670 MHz

RAM: 4GB 1067 MHz

OS: Windows 7 (64 bit)

Time: 8 min 16 sec

Tells you something about the difference between Mac and Windows really...Anytime someone says Mac is better than Win PC, I can give him a link to this thread :) The two processors should be exactly on par according to notebookcheck (maybe very slight advantage to 480M). Would love to see a test on Sandy Bridge mobile processors just to see IF I've really gone wrong with the older gen when buying mine a few months ago.

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This is a great idea, but I think you have left open too many variables by just saying to holiday for a week and don't resign. For one, people could be selecting different countries as their starting point, so some may start in January and others in July. Also the team chosen could have an effect on how much news and other items are processed in the first week. One week is also too short a time period.

I would recommend suggesting everyone must pick the same starting league (England, for example so everyone starts in July) and to start unemployed and holiday for 1 year. This would provide much more accurate results.

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This is a great idea, but I think you have left open too many variables by just saying to holiday for a week and don't resign. For one, people could be selecting different countries as their starting point, so some may start in January and others in July. Also the team chosen could have an effect on how much news and other items are processed in the first week. One week is also too short a time period.

I would recommend suggesting everyone must pick the same starting league (England, for example so everyone starts in July) and to start unemployed and holiday for 1 year. This would provide much more accurate results.

There is a save game in the first topic, which you load.

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nine_iron

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CPU: Intel i7 920

CPU Frequency: 3600 MHz

RAM: 6GB 1600 MHz

OS: Win 7 64-bit

Time: 5 min 25 sec

This is my 'comfort settings' not total all out OC as I have had it up at 3.8 stable this morning but I don't feel comfortable with the voltages needed to get it to 4 or more yet... Im sure my rig can do it I'm just new to OCing and this was my first attempt! I started last night :D

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Great idea for a thread. Had just been wondering recently what difference a cpu upgrade would have with FM.

Anyway, here's mine:

CPU: Intel Q6600

CPU Frequency: 3000 MHz

RAM: 6GB 667 MHz

OS: Win Vista 64

Time: 6 min 51 sec

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Done a bit more tweaking, tried to optimise the sytem as much as possible outside of the game, done some really decent OCing today and got this:

CPU: Intel i7 920

CPU Frequency: 3800 MHz

RAM: 6GB 1600 MHz

OS: Win 7 64-bit

Time: 5 min 07 sec

It seems just a 0.2 increase on the clock made a difference, tried to get 4.0Hgz to desktop but struggling, I think its the QPI voltages etc as they are not as high as they could be, I think also there are some other things I can tweak to allow higher OCs but I am just not that proficient.

Currently the i7 @ 3.8 mean core temp is 67C under 100% load after 15 mins, the CPU temp is mid to high 40s an the case temp is mid 40s during that test. I think that means there is some headroom if I can get my head round how the voltages work!

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This thread is really showing a good comparison between systems over a short run.

It is nicely highlighting the improvements between the 1st and 2nd generation i7s and i5s. An old i7 moderatly OCed ~= to a stock 2nd gen i5!!!

I need a new MOBO and processor me thinks :*(

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Nine Iron is your i7 920 a D0 or C0? Only reason I ask is my i7 920 D0 easily pushes 4.2ghz, it's always been too excessive for what I wanted and had to push the voltage above 1.3 to keep it steady I preferred to keep it around 1.22 at 3.8ghz; but I also have a H50 cooler for my processor which may assist in keeping it cooler at higher OC's.

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Nine Iron is your i7 920 a D0 or C0? Only reason I ask is my i7 920 D0 easily pushes 4.2ghz, it's always been too excessive for what I wanted and had to push the voltage above 1.3 to keep it steady I preferred to keep it around 1.22 at 3.8ghz; but I also have a H50 cooler for my processor which may assist in keeping it cooler at higher OC's.

Very new to this so need to find out what that means :D Only been doing this since Friday evening! Read up on it then an decided to give it a go.

My system was OCed at time of build to 3.4 (bought it Jan 2009) but I went into the bios and set it back to stock a few months back because it kept freezing. I then replaced the thermal compound, replaced a few fans and gave it a deep clean. I decided now its all stable again to OC it back up. I read a few articles online and played a little then tried it yesterday and got to 3.6, then 3.8 today.

I downloaded a few programs to test stability and some to OC the graphics card too. I optimised that this morning.

There is A LOT I still have to learn but I am not sure how to know if I can get to a higher clock speed. I have an old one of these http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Asetek-Low-Cost-Liquid-Cooling-LCLC/388 and it does a decent job.

EDIT: If it is the "Revision" section in CPUZ then its C0, sorry for not knowing mate

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