ATLJonesIII Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 How can I defend against this? Playing in the BSP I am finding my opponents to be constantly pumping balls into my box and getting lots of joy from it. My keeper just can't seem to handle it. Is anyone else experiencing problems with this type of strategy in the lower leagues? I have my defence very tight but they are still finding gaping holes to take advantage of whenever they want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mons Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If your keeper's aerial ability is poor and your defence are short and not/or very good in the air, it's to be expected. Moreover, keeping your defence too tight means you're practically inviting them to pump the ball into your box as they can't get through any other way which is not something you should encourage if your defensive kernel is soft and far from unyielding. Play/Buy some imposing DCs and get harder-working wingers who can deny the opposition the space to cross the ball from deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Innuendo title of the year award goes to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well what tactic are you playing? That piece of information is missing (tight defense isn't quite specific enough). Mons probably has a point,though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Perhaps you are too spread out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Playmaker = Long > Deep balls > Missionary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Close your legs min! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 It is a common tactic in lower leagues, and effective. It is one I use myself until I can get better players in. If your keeper can't handle it, then getting in a better keeper is the quickest solution, if this really is how most chances against you happen, then one with good aerial ability and command of box is crucial. Centre backs with good jumping and positioning as well. I would suggest using the analysis pages to see where the assists mostly come from, and setting your players in that are to closing down frequently as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanista1994 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If they get in from behind there's not much you can do. You'll just have to ride it out and hope for the best, however much that may hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestroik Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Innuendo title of the year award goes to you :lol: I can't stop laughing at the thread title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If your back four are prone to presenting the opposition with gaping holes it's only natural that they are going to take advantage of it at every given opportunity. Sounds like you've been a little unlucky though and been exploited by some particularly ruthless "Inside Forwards" who, as Alan Pardew would say, are "absolutely raping" you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Best thread of the day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jops14 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 im glad im not the only one that burst out laughing at the title! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocheBag Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Hahaha "and getting lots of joy out of it". Epic thread is epic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If they get in from behind there's not much you can do. You'll just have to ride it out and hope for the best, however much that may hurt. The best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano565 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 The last thing you need is opponents sticking balls into the corridoor of uncertainty - I would suggest buying a huge target man to counter their threat, as you're probably lacking in the size department. When someone pulls a gun out on you, the best strategy is for you to pull out a bigger one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Able.Ryder Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 The last thing you need is opponents sticking balls into the corridoor of uncertainty - I would suggest buying a huge target man to counter their threat, as you're probably lacking in the size department. When someone pulls a gun out on you, the best strategy is for you to pull out a bigger one. Gaining in size would most likely increase the number of spectators too. Even those who don't like football would come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherlover Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Is this thread serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks for the tips guys. I have noticed that having two CB's with excellent heading skills seems to help. It's still however pretty painful to watch these balls pumped into my box because I'm paranoid they will keep scoring. I guess the only thing I can do is force my opponents to shoot from distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 How can I defend against this? Playing in the BSP I am finding my opponents to be constantly pumping balls into my box and getting lots of joy from it. My keeper just can't seem to handle it. Is anyone else experiencing problems with this type of strategy in the lower leagues? I have my defence very tight but they are still finding gaping holes to take advantage of whenever they want to. *childish giggle* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks1754 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Snigger of the day for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks for the tips guys. I have noticed that having two CB's with excellent heading skills seems to help. It's still however pretty painful to watch these balls pumped into my box because I'm paranoid they will keep scoring. I guess the only thing I can do is force my opponents to shoot from distance. I'm not taking the mick, honest. It's just that, if you're serious, your choice of wording is wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Innuendo title of the year award goes to you Ha! I thought the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuarezsFrontTeeth Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Best thread ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPPPPPPPPPPP10 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I LOL-ed reading the title xD, deserves the "that's what she said" of the year award! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 The last thing you need is opponents sticking balls into the corridoor of uncertainty - I would suggest buying a huge target man to counter their threat, as you're probably lacking in the size department. When someone pulls a gun out on you, the best strategy is for you to pull out a bigger one. Good point mate, I definitely am lacking in the size department but I try to compensate with a high work rate, good concentration and excellent timing. That being said, the amount of balls penetrating my defence is certainly too many. It seems to create a sense of uncertainty with my Goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to come or not. Any more advice would be great guys. He has just come back from a sprained wrist so I can understand why my 'keeper may be slightly reluctant to command his area and perhaps has lost confidence in his own ball handling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanista1994 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Good point mate, I definitely am lacking in the size department but I try to compensate with a high work rate, good concentration and excellent timing. That being said, the amount of balls penetrating my defence is certainly too many. It seems to create a sense of uncertainty with my Goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to come or not. Any more advice would be great guys. He has just come back from a sprained wrist so I can understand why my 'keeper may be slightly reluctant to command his area and perhaps has lost confidence in his own ball handling. It might be worthwile trying a new strategy with unorthodox positions and you could also try to go in rougher so that you finish them off when they're tired. Maybe it's a case of your defence being too spread out? If it's up against two men with great skills you'll require a mixture of teamwork, concentration and determination to tighten up the gaping holes. Don't despair, I'm sure you'll come out on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Staying Up Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 this sounds like a job for Lovelace Bailey... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/298757-Porn-Star-Regen!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormenDK Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I definitely am lacking in the size department but I try to compensate with a high work rate, good concentration and excellent timing. Off-topic: Seriously dude ... they just keep coming. Are you sure this is not intentional? *lol* It might be worthwile trying a new strategy with unorthodox positions and you could also try to go in rougher so that you finish them off when they're tired. Now even the answers take this route Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Off-topic: Seriously dude ... they just keep coming. Are you sure this is not intentional? *lol*Now even the answers take this route What do you mean they keep coming? Just looking for tactical advice bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It seems to create a sense of uncertainty with my Goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to come or not. It's always a problem when the goalie comes too early, or even not at all. Perhaps he needs a bit of extra training on his rushing out attribute so he can come just at the right time and grab those loose balls? Maybe he needs a more experienced player in front of him to help him out a bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormenDK Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Sorry ... seems the thread has degenerated as the posts are thick with (naughty) innuendoes, like the ones quoted, or your thread title. If english is not your main language, this might be hard to notice. But it is quite funny. Sadly I have little actual advice to give on the tactical side. But if you are vunerable to crosses into the box, then playing a tight formation where you leave the wing lots of space to cross, might not be such a good idea. You will want to keep the opposition wingers from crossing the ball. But I might be reading your original post wrong. Is it crosses or through balls that is giving you problems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 It's always a problem when the goalie comes too early, or even not at all. Perhaps he needs a bit of extra training on his rushing out attribute so he can come just at the right time and grab those loose balls? Maybe he needs a more experienced player in front of him to help him out a bit? Yeah fair point man. You sound like you know a little bit about this. Have you ever had a 'keeper that needed a helping hand with coming at the right time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJonesIII Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Sorry ... seems the thread has degenerated as the posts are thick with (naughty) innuendoes, like the ones quoted, or your thread title. If english is not your main language, this might be hard to notice. But it is quite funny.Sadly I have little actual advice to give on the tactical side. But if you are vunerable to crosses into the box, then playing a tight formation where you leave the wing lots of space to cross, might not be such a good idea. You will want to keep the opposition wingers from crossing the ball. But I might be reading your original post wrong. Is it crosses or through balls that is giving you problems? Am I missing something here then? No need for apologies my friend. Thanks for the advice about playing wider to stop crosses. It's mainly balls coming from wide angles that are hurting my fragile back line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah fair point man. You sound like you know a little bit about this. Have you ever had a 'keeper that needed a helping hand with coming at the right time? I usually throw them in at a young age, so they tend to make quite a few mistakes as expected. As they get older and more experienced they seem to get much better with their timing. Just giving them time and opportunities to build up their confidence usually does the trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormenDK Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Am I missing something here then? No need for apologies my friend. Thanks for the advice about playing wider to stop crosses. It's mainly balls coming from wide angles that are hurting my fragile back line. If they go between your back line and the goalie, there might be too much space, and you can consider lowering the defensive line a bit .. or as others have pointed out, get a better goalie. Even as a BSP side, there are some respectable goalies available on Free or Loans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah fair point man. You sound like you know a little bit about this. Have you ever had a 'keeper that needed a helping hand with coming at the right time? No more! Please, no more! Bwahahaha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Able.Ryder Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I can't stop laughing. And my co-workers are asking me what I'm laughing at... I can't tell them that I want to help another FM player to stop his opponents getting their balls in his box, can I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dperry Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The best form of defence is attack, my favoured strategy is to get the lads to push harder at the other end. Usually we will penetrate their box then it is only a matter of time until we find a hole and explode through it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuarezsFrontTeeth Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Maybe you could use an anchor man and play him deep in the hole? make sure your ass man is not giving any stupid advice and most importantly if you have some young players make sure that your coaches have high levels of judgeing potential and are not to keen on working with youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Good point mate, I definitely am lacking in the size department but I try to compensate with a high work rate, good concentration and excellent timing. That being said, the amount of balls penetrating my defence is certainly too many. It seems to create a sense of uncertainty with my Goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to come or not. Any more advice would be great guys. He has just come back from a sprained wrist so I can understand why my 'keeper may be slightly reluctant to command his area and perhaps has lost confidence in his own ball handling. Surely this is a joke right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Excellent timing is an innuendo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginga-Assassin Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This has to be the greatest thread of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_r Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I find that some of my players start dribbling and then shoot early, well before they they get into the box. This is a very messy and frustrating situation to be in. I just wish they would calm down a bit and take their time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Able.Ryder Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I find that some of my players start dribbling and then shoot early, well before they they get into the box. This is a very messy and frustrating situation to be in. I just wish they would calm down a bit and take their time. Shout at them to work the ball into the opposition box. Also, increasing the time wasted on the grass might calm them down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingHaysey Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 How can I defend against this? Playing in the BSP I am finding my opponents to be constantly pumping balls into my box and getting lots of joy from it. My keeper just can't seem to handle it. Is anyone else experiencing problems with this type of strategy in the lower leagues? I have my defence very tight but they are still finding gaping holes to take advantage of whenever they want to. Nice choice of words there pal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Shout at them to work the ball into the opposition box. Also, increasing the time wasted on the grass might calm them down a bit. I would trust any advice from somebody called Able.Ryder in this particular thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Able.Ryder Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I would trust any advice from somebody called Able.Ryder in this particular thread. I always had the impression I was good at giving this kind of advice, but never really knew why. Now I know why. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grff Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It sounds as though you might be in a sticky situation due to your keeper coming over balls that your defence are unable to handle. Your defence might be better if they were able to keep a good head by being able to plug big holes at the back and sucking in the long balls. Your current defence might be camping too much. Your midfield could profit from the defensive knock downs by being able to stroke balls between themselves before unleashing a penetrating ball through the opposition backline. All of the above could be a masterstroke PS If all else fails, try going down and trying Staines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano565 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You may also want to deploy a sweeper. When your backline is struggling to contain an opposition surge it would help to have someone there to mop up the mess. It's difficult to swallow, but in my experience the backline isn't always strong enough to contain whats coming. Whilst you'll probably have wave after wave of attack flooding towards you, you don't have to bend over and take it. Lap it all up and choose the right moment to launch a counter attack, the opposition rearguard won't know whats hit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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