nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Defense Violation™ Formation About the Tactic Thanks to Jose Mourinho, I've been inspired to play FM12 again and create a new tactic, an attacking one. The goal of this tactic is to make use of possession and you will find that most of the times you rarely concede a goal. I've made this tactic for my Real Madrid side, but I've tried it with Arsenal (Predicted 6th) and won back to back EPL titles and two Champions League titles. In the Arsenal save I had Sagna so I've moved the attacking full back role to the right side but back in Real Madrid I had Marcelo. You will find both versions of the tactic uploaded (Left full back and right full back). Player Recommendations Defenders RCB - Tackling, Marking, Anticipation, Heading, Concentration, Positioning, Jumping, Strength. LCB - Tackling, Marking, Passing, Heading, Concentration, Positioning, Jumping, Strength, Acceleration, Balance. RB - Crossing, Dribbling, Marking, Tackling, Concentration, Positioning, Teamwork, Work Rate, Off The Ball, Acceleration, Stamina. LB - Tackling, Marking, Anticipation, Concentration, Positioning, Teamwork, Work Rate, Acceleration, Stamina. Midfielders MCR (Box to Box) - All round midfielder. MCL (Deep lying mid.) - First Touch, Passing, Tackling, Technique, Composure, Creativity, Decisions, Off The Ball, Positioning, Teamwork. AMC (Advanced Playmaker) - Dribbling, First Touch, Passing, Technique, Anticipation, Creativity, Decisions, Flair, Off The Ball, Teamwork. AML/R (Wingers) - Crossing, Dribbling, Technique, Decisions, Flair, Off The Ball, Acceleration, Pace, Agility, Balance. Strikers ST (Poacher) - Dribbling, Finishing, First Touch, Anticipation, Composure, Off The Ball, Acceleration, Agility, Balance, Pace. Other Information Pitch size: Max. Match prep: I left it to Assistant but you can put it on Attacking Movement. OI's: Do not use oi's at all! Credits to 19`Jack Wilshl2e from FM-THAI for the poacher instructions http://www.fm-thai.com/board/index.php?showtopic=107891 Download Normal Version Left Full Back Version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTC Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Tested in 12.1.1 patch i guess... Can you post some results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yep, 12.1.1 I will upload the results in a few seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Looks good like the idea of 1 fb going forward, Do you find fb moves to centre back when the other bombs forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Looks good like the idea of 1 fb going forward, Do you find fb moves to centre back when the other bombs forward? That was my idea, it was hard to implement into the game but this is as close as I can get in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 More results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2vA Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 That's some neat looking OP you got there. Gonna test if the tactic holds up to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 That's some neat looking OP you got there. Gonna test if the tactic holds up to this Thanks, I'm glad you like the op. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskiew Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 What if both your fullbacks are equally good wingbacks upfront, so you can choose either one on the weaker/slower fullback of the other team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 What if both your fullbacks are equally good wingbacks upfront, so you can choose either one on the weaker/slower fullback of the other team? I'd probably take a look at the scout report on the opposition team and see where the weaker full back is, so yeah what you said can be applied Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustin1979 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Do you use the AMC as playmaker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 I do not use a playmaker although I believe every team should have one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marek_mors Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I love tactic with amc playmayker...Ozil rules! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemanders Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 just one question, im playing with arsenal but ive got Cesar Azplilicueta at right back and im playing Bacaray Sagna at left back. which formation would you play? Left or Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L7M Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 First match... Heerenveen 0-10 Borussia Dortmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 just one question, im playing with arsenal but ive got Cesar Azplilicueta at right back and im playing Bacaray Sagna at left back.which formation would you play? Left or Right? I'd probably play left since Sagna has good crossing stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 First match... Heerenveen 0-10 Borussia Dortmund Awesome keep me update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 One Question! With Arsenal, you used RVP as a poacher or in the AMR position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 One Question!With Arsenal, you used RVP as a poacher or in the AMR position? AMC, since he isn't fast enough to be a poacher. You can use Walcott as your poacher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Do you think it will work on the new patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dodgson Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 When is the new patch out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Last night http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/300648-January-Transfer-Update-12.2.0-*RELEASED-TODAY* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Do you think it will work on the new patch? Since there were no ME changes for formations with full-backs, it should work the same as it did previously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 thanks Shirazs!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I will test it out later with the new patch and will see if it is still as effective as before. Thanks for reminding me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hey nSickboy, Would you mind uploading a screenshot of your league table and team stats? Regards Shiraz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I do not mind at all Current season, haven't played much games. Currently working on a 4-3-3 (Flat) for the latest patch. Latest result with it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 @nSickboy Which version do you use with Ajax agianst Chelsea? And have you player filters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I am going to make a new thread for the new tactic as it is surprisingly well defensively and in attacks (creating an average of 3 ccs per game). I do not have player filters but I have listed all the attributes needed, I will make player filters for the new tactic though since some people like using it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darceon Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I wonder. I noticed the only matches you really lost were against big teams. Would it make sense to use 2 defensive full backs against tougher opposition and thus have no attacking full back. (With this I mean the same setup, the defensive one, for both full backs.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I had really good results with this tactic! in 12.2... I only miss the attribute PACE for the full back that is going forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 I wonder. I noticed the only matches you really lost were against big teams. Would it make sense to use 2 defensive full backs against tougher opposition and thus have no attacking full back. (With this I mean the same setup, the defensive one, for both full backs.) I didn't change it because it would destroy the purpose of the tactic by making use of your wing back, you can do it though if you are playing with a team with no wingbacks. @Wijnand fens Thanks for informing me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Quick question, what success did you have with Walcott in the poacher role? I often found he'd be great at getting into the position because of his pace etc. but his finishing and composure isn't the highest so I found he missed a lot of chances. How good was he for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 He had 42 goals in 39 apps and I sold him in the 3rd season with Arsenal because of his finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricketdave Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 how is everyone finding this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mischievous Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 nSickboy, if i get it right, RB seems to be the WB and RL the FB? In terms of attributes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 nSickboy, if i get it right, RB seems to be the WB and RL the FB? In terms of attributes Exactly, but in the LB version the LB is the wingback and RB is the FB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mischievous Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Exactly, but in the LB version the LB is the wingback and RB is the FB. Thanks, i'm gonna give it a go with Académica Coimbra from the Portuguese Premier League. I'll keep you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitzra3l Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sounds great. Just downloaded your tactic and made a first test. It didn't go well, I had a player sent off around 14", so I changed back to my default tactic to control the rest of the game. Nevertheless I'll give it a go again in the next few matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborgscouse Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm gonna try this with Liverpool, do you think Suarez can be used as the AMC in the second season if I buy a top class striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah I think he has the creativity and the passing needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowara Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Gonna give this a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seftinho Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Having problems with the download link (clicking download, it's showing the green arrow but then nothing happens). Could someone upload this elsewhere do you think? Would really like to try it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SL Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I brought this tactic in as relief to my own which had led me to 4 straight league defeats - this tactic brought me a 4-1 away win in the cup and followed that with a 3-0 league win, thanks very much and long may it last! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSickboy Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 I brought this tactic in as relief to my own which had led me to 4 straight league defeats - this tactic brought me a 4-1 away win in the cup and followed that with a 3-0 league win, thanks very much and long may it last! Thanks for posting your results mate! Keep me updated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marek_mors Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Please link! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darceon Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can anyone put up another link for the 2 formations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatlach Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 link is dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobbie Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Can anyone who have this tactic upload it please? Both of the links in the impressive opening post are dead. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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