FATPimP Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hey, So I am playing with Hajduk(Croatia) and two big clubs(Dinamo Moscow & Leverkusen) just offered "an amazing" offer(4.5 mil$ and 3.5 mil$) for two of my players, my most promising striker and my best AMR/AML. The board approved the deal without my consent. I know it happens a lot in small clubs and my thing is, maybe SI should add an ultimatum option like "If you go through with this deal I am outta here". I just feel like, I am the manager and I should decide who's in my squad and who's not. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranquelme Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I think theres a feature to complain to the board in the new FM.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haunted1234 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 it only happens if you are not financialy stable i think, or at least to me, if you have like a 20 million bank, if they offer 3,5 million you can easily decline and your board is not gonna intervene, but if you have like a 2 million bank and they offer 3,5 million the player is gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATPimP Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 it only happens if you are not financialy stable i think, or at least to me, if you have like a 20 million bank, if they offer 3,5 million you can easily decline and your board is not gonna intervene, but if you have like a 2 million bank and they offer 3,5 million the player is gone I started the season with 200,000 in the bank and by January I had 3.7 mil. So the club is not starving. Its a lot of bank for a Croatian club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govnar1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Just set asking price of all players to 120M € and they will never ever make another bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle_46 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 you can still cancell it if you go to the transfer centre then click on the offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATPimP Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 you can still cancell it if you go to the transfer centre then click on the offer I Tried that and its not possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Just set asking price of all players to 120M € and they will never ever make another bid. This. It's the only way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensteidel Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Just set asking price of all players to 120M € and they will never ever make another bid. Won't this induce the players to ask for an improved contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Won't this induce the players to ask for an improved contract? Good point that? Never really noticed it out of the ordinary though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 While it's not going to help these players, can you set future players' values to £0? While it means you won't receive anything meaningful from these players and the interest might unsettle them, the chairman won't go over your head so you are free to reject the offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensteidel Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Good point that? Never really noticed it out of the ordinary though I think It happens if you turn the player value to a ridiculous level. It often makes the agent or player ask for an improved contract because of the high evaluation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govnar1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Won't this induce the players to ask for an improved contract? Never happened to me, but if you refuse or negotiate the offer it happens very often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensteidel Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Never happened to me, but if you refuse or negotiate the offer it happens very often. It probably only happens if the player, especially a youth player, is already on a very cheap contract. I think they have introduced the mecanism of asking for a better contract to stop you from "cheating" by setting unrealistic transfer values. I guess this will also depend a lot on the player's ambition, professionalism and loyalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I've never had any problems having a very high asking price. When agents wanting a new contract for their player I've never seen any correlation with a high asking price. As I see it, it depends on how well they play and the value of their contract compared to other players in the club playing the same position. Edit: When you haven't set a high asking price and other clubs bids for the player and you reject you are told you can always up the asking price. So with an in-game tip like that I find that it would make no sense if players suddenly start asking for better contracts because of a higher asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It probably only happens if the player, especially a youth player, is already on a very cheap contract. I think they have introduced the mecanism of asking for a better contract to stop you from "cheating" by setting unrealistic transfer values. I guess this will also depend a lot on the player's ambition, professionalism and loyalty. I get this quite a lot, but I am playing the Youth Academy Challenge and some of my better players may be on £5-£20 a week and playing every week with an average over 7.20 for example. So I expect that to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATPimP Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 I dont want to use any "cheats" ot AI exploits, My idea was to add the ultimatum option in the future version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It's not a cheat or exploit. It's how it works irl (almost). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Park 1910 - 2009 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 sadly i had this alot when i managed droyslden in league two. i signed free transfers no-one else wanted, some german kids, a young welsh striker. and my board accepted offer of £1m for them, a offer of £1.5m for my star striker (prem quality after a load of games) this caused me to question my place at the club. but i used the finances to improve my facilities, stadium ect. in the long run you'll be making these players through your youth set up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govnar1 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 It's not a cheat or exploit. It's how it works irl (almost). It is a cheat no question about it. For that amount of money (3.5-4.5M $) real life Hajduk board would sell baby Jesus to Somalian pirates! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 It is frustrating but as you get better and build your finances it will stop happening. It's quite realistic I'd say, although yeah an option to complain to the board would be excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The "ridiculous transfer value" is not a cheat because it shouldn't work as well as it does. It also only works one way. For instance, if I bid for an Important First Team player of an AI club valued £5m, let's say 10m... they negotiate and want 28m. That is, of course, just as ridiculous a price as the ones I set my players to in order to scare off bids. However, I know that 28m isn't what I actually have to pay to get him. So after some haggling I get him for 17,5. The AI, however, will never make a bid for a 5m valued player set to 28m. I would say 12-15m would be enough for me to let him go unless he has some additional value to me, for instance if he's a left-back I can't replace or I am starved of HG-players. Or the interested club is a rival. The transfer AI is simply not good enough and that is not our fault. When that is said, I would love for the AI to come trying to poach my players. It would be delightful! But they don't. The OP is lucky. The ultimatum feature doesn't work well either. I have tested it in many situations and regardless of my standing in the club, they have never backed down irrespective of what the demand was. Is it even in FM12? IF they removed it it was for good reason. Absolutely pointless the way it was programmed. So, if you placed that ultimatum and they chose to fire you, would you reload? If you would, it is an awful feature to have in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATPimP Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 The "ridiculous transfer value" is not a cheat because it shouldn't work as well as it does. It also only works one way. For instance, if I bid for an Important First Team player of an AI club valued £5m, let's say 10m... they negotiate and want 28m. That is, of course, just as ridiculous a price as the ones I set my players to in order to scare off bids. However, I know that 28m isn't what I actually have to pay to get him. So after some haggling I get him for 17,5. The AI, however, will never make a bid for a 5m valued player set to 28m. I would say 12-15m would be enough for me to let him go unless he has some additional value to me, for instance if he's a left-back I can't replace or I am starved of HG-players. Or the interested club is a rival.The transfer AI is simply not good enough and that is not our fault. When that is said, I would love for the AI to come trying to poach my players. It would be delightful! But they don't. The OP is lucky. The ultimatum feature doesn't work well either. I have tested it in many situations and regardless of my standing in the club, they have never backed down irrespective of what the demand was. Is it even in FM12? IF they removed it it was for good reason. Absolutely pointless the way it was programmed. So, if you placed that ultimatum and they chose to fire you, would you reload? If you would, it is an awful feature to have in the game. Well its up to them to fix it then. This new game I started is a journeyman so if the board would fire me I would not reload. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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