kb77 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I hope they've fixed or reduced the number of times you hit the woodwork in FM13. Every game, between me and my opponents, we hit the woodwork at least 3 times. Minimum of 3 times a game?!?!? That can not be statistically correct. Sure you see it in real life, but not several times a game. Its quite rare actually, i don't know how often it occurs in real life, but in FM its just way too much. Fix it ....Please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If it is 3 per game for a prolonged period, then it does sound excessive. In the 2012 English Premier League Season, the woodwork was hit 209 times in the 380 games played, so 0.55 times per game on average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb77 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Good to know, thanks. Its far more then that in my games, and I've heard a few others complain as well. Have you had an issue with it yourself? I've also had this with several teams, so its not just the one I'm managing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I haven't really noticed it, but I haven't really been looking for it either. I can remember threads relating to FM10 and FM11 where the number of fouls and injuries was getting a lot of criticism prior to a patch, and can vaguely recall someone listing some actual stats which implied that the occurrences were in line with live football. It may be the same with the woodwork thing, but would be worth posting in the bug thread if you can provide a save game for SI to investigate. Can't even have a look myself as I uninstalled FM12 in advance of FM13 beta release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If it is 3 per game for a prolonged period, then it does sound excessive. In the 2012 English Premier League Season, the woodwork was hit 209 times in the 380 games played, so 0.55 times per game on average. How many times if you take Liverpool's tally out? It does seem to happen a bit too often in the game. I haven't done any actual counting, but the number of times I get asked "Your team hit the woodwork a lot today. Were there times when you didn't think it was your day?" (or however it goes) suggests it should be toned down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Liverpool hit the woodwork 22 times! http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/211780-the-woodwork-hitting-league-table/ Have realised that it was 209 times up to a point in April, so probably more by close of the season, but certainly not 3 per game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb77 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Definitely should be toned down, and I should mention I'm managing in League 2, so not sure what the stats are for that league. Now 3 times a game is almost a minimum for me, its happened 7 or 8 times on occasion. At least that's what it says in the match stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Liverpool hit the woodwork 22 times!http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/211780-the-woodwork-hitting-league-table/ Have realised that it was 209 times up to a point in April, so probably more by close of the season, but certainly not 3 per game. Thought for sure we hit the post 208 times then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It seems SI dont want want to talk about ME so nobody knows what and whether they fixed anything. Probably they think there were too much football in their "Football Manager 2013" project, so they decided now to turn it into "Social Manager 2013" considering the amount of unecessary interactions between you and the whole world you have to talk to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It seems SI dont want want to talk about ME so nobody knows what and whether they fixed anything.Probably they think there were too much football in their "Football Manager 2013" project, so they decided now to turn it into "Social Manager 2013" considering the amount of unecessary interactions among you and the whole world you have to talk to. you clearly know nothing about SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I hope you're right mate, sincerely However, it seems you clearly know everything about SI, so please tell us something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I agree with OP. I posted about this ages ago so my memory isnt perfect but I went back through the stats for all my league games (league 2) from the season I'd just finished, and it was something like me 27 woodwork opps 22 woodword ie around 1 per game on average total, so twice the 0.55 stat mentioned earlier in the thread. Of course that was just one season, but I'd say it's been roughly similar in all my seasons since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Fixed double post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb77 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 I agree with OP. I posted about this ages ago so my memory isnt perfect but I went back through the stats for all my league games (league 2) from the season I'd just finished, and it was something like me 27 woodwork opps 22 woodword ie around 1 per game on average total, so twice the 0.55 stat mentioned earlier in the thread.Of course that was just one season, but I'd say it's been roughly similar in all my seasons since. Must be something wrong with my game then, because I can deal with 1 a game. The other day I played a match in key highlights, every time it showed the action, my team were in control with back to back shots to the woodwork. Its unbelievable. It does seem like it happens more for me then most people, no clue why. It can't be tactics, because if its not me hitting the posts, its my opponents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhazmuz Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 /Liverpool signs this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Never seen it as an issue, adds excitement to watching a game IMO, 3 times a game total is not excessive and keeps me on the edge of my seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcornell68 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 As long as we remember that less woodwork hitting will mean more goal kicks. Not sure that's what the game needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 i don't know how often it occurs in real life in FM its just way too much Got to love this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I agree with OP. I posted about this ages ago so my memory isnt perfect but I went back through the stats for all my league games (league 2) from the season I'd just finished, and it was something like me 27 woodwork opps 22 woodword ie around 1 per game on average total, so twice the 0.55 stat mentioned earlier in the thread.Of course that was just one season, but I'd say it's been roughly similar in all my seasons since. 27 time you hit the post over the season, in league 2? I thought teams in league 2 played around 46 games? So your stat would be no where near close 1 a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pewa2303 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 in fm 10 == 0.6 per game in fm 11 == 0.8 per game in fm 12 == 1.0 per game in fm 13 == ??? 1.2 per game ??? this is an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I didn't notice any woodwork issue in FM2012. Ok, sometimes you'll get the odd game where you hit woodwork 3 or 4 times... but most of my game i dont get a single woodwork shot. I think it's pretty real, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I hit the post a lot and in 1 game last night within 30 minutes I hit the post 3 times and they hit it once. I would agree with the average being around 3 times per match . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabregas_04 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Can't say I've noticed it over a prolonged period, but it definitely gets out of hand in some individual matches. I think my record was 8 times in one game. 7 times for me and once for the opp. I won the game if I remember correctly, but the woodwork was the star of that particular show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 How many of those woodwork hits are from corners? The guy at rear post wins the challenge the vast majority of times and it goes either on goal, over the bar or hits the bar and goes over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 27 time you hit the post over the season, in league 2? I thought teams in league 2 played around 46 games? So your stat would be no where near close 1 a game. 1 a game in total, ie me 27 + opponent 22 = 49 from 46 games. As opposed to this quoted earlier In the 2012 English Premier League Season, the woodwork was hit 209 times in the 380 games played, so 0.55 times per game on average. So total woodwork per game being the proper comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb77 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 How many of those woodwork hits are from corners? The guy at rear post wins the challenge the vast majority of times and it goes either on goal, over the bar or hits the bar and goes over. I don't recall hitting the woodwork from corners, its almost always from open play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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