DJLM82 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hello, In previous FM I could chose the game to be watched from TV View or Classic View from a "View Mode" selection during pre-game or during game, but I can't find this option in FM13. I can get a similar looking screen, with stats and stuff, but the replay of goals will be played on the small split screen to the left and not the full screen as the classic view that I used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdanj Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I am looking for it aswel, I hope it's not removed, the overview is great, but why doesn't it switch between pitch when its showing active play then return to overview, really annoying! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUGHGUY Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Been looking for this for ages now. I fear the worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Me too, this and generating a match report for every result you want to see are really annoying.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUGHGUY Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I don't suppose anyone found a way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgonzalez Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I asked this on a similar post... if it's gone, its a massive negative in my view... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgonzalez Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am guessing by the lack of replies or feedback that it has been removed... Another let down for the new version IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkanu Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes i agree this is a step backwards. The interface overall is seems to be abit less intuitive than it has been ever before. There seems to be buttons just placed all over the place on the left and right side and not in a thought out way. And the removal of things like in the opening post is a shame. Why do i have to click one button on the left and then all the way over to the right to get into another screen to further delve into the thing im looking at... Very annoying. Generating a match report is very annoying when all you want to do is look at the stats or player ratings for that match.. In previous FMs it just went straight in and only generated a match report if you actually wanted to view a replay or something! Which makes much more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Can we get something official about this please, SI games dudes? I also agree with the second point the guys have been mentioning in this post. A match report just to see who scored or shots on goal? You gotta be kiddin' me right? But I fear the worst :-( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerara Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It is really strange. SI staff please respond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdanj Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Any news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 what i used a lot was watching the stats(goalscorers and ratings) from my reserve and youth team , i had the same problem when clicking on the score(generating match report) but saw now that when u go to 'reserves' - fixtures - and click on the line of the match , u can see the stats on the right , who played, scored etc.. it is not the same, but it is something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am looking for it aswel, I hope it's not removed, the overview is great, but why doesn't it switch between pitch when its showing active play then return to overview, really annoying! I like the new overview too, I'd just like it to switch between the screens like it used to do. I've already asked about this in the bugs forums, and unfortunately it won't be changed for FM13. Another thing that is slightly annoying. Not sure if this is a user interface issue?But on the match screen, it doesn't switch back to the previous screen you were on, between highlights. It just stays on the 'pitch' screen, leaving me staring at a loading box saying 'waiting for the next highlight'. I'd like it to switch to the match overview screen where all the information is, while it's doing that. It's also the opposite aswell, if I click on the match overview screen while it's waiting for the next highlight. Once the next highlight is happening, it just sticks on the match 'overview' screen still, and doesn't switch back to the 'pitch' screen. I'd like it to switch from whatever screen I'm on, to the pitch screen, as soon as an highlight starts on the pitch.. and then switch back to the previous screen once the highlight as finished (just like it's always been on past FM's) Thanks for raising these two issues with us Barkermush. The OP is now under review. The second point about the Match Screen whilst in my humble opinion is very valid, won't be changing for FM13. And I would say in defence of the coders who designed it this way, that the 'waiting for the next highlight' isn't just a "loading box" as you can change its display via the arrow at the top of the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawson6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Ah, and this is what I'm chasing in another post. I completely appreciate the way SI have advanced the 3D match engine but I've never been interested in it, I've always liked the classic overview with commentary and the ability to access other match info when I choose to, not have it rammed in my face all at one. From the previous post then it appears they're not looking at changing this back? It's a huge disappointment to discover this only after buying the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieV Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's a shame if they have removed it. The closest I can get with the new matchday UI is: Select "Pitch, Split" as your matchday view. Although the split starts out 50:50, you can drag the divider between the two panels, so that one panel takes up about 75:25. Use the dropdown Match Settings box to make sure the highlights show in the bigger panel. Then whenever the highlight ends, it'll go back to showing Match Stats or whatever other view you want. I usually have my player ratings in the smaller panel. It's not perfect (the split seems to keep resetting, especially after half-time or viewing the tactics screen), but it's the closest I've found to the very good old classic view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBlues Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Couldnt agree more, dont see the logic behind taking this away, I've been using this setup for years. This will be a massive turn off if I have to manually keep clicking the pitch tab or have a stats bar cover the actual action. Any feedback on the thinking behind this change? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted October 22, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2012 Try 'Preferences' -> 'Profile' -> 'Match' I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but you may be able to set it up there. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerara Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Did you remove tv view option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I have to agree the matchday is worse. During match day I enjoyed seeing the overview with the kits and the lists of who had scored etc, instead of being forced to stare at whether or not my players are 'furious', which they seem to be bizarrely often, even in team performing ok. Also, in the timeline at the bottom, hovering over the ball icon that signifies a goal to see who scored it is quite hard, normally takes me 2 or 3 seconds to find the right place. Perhaps increase the target here? I normally have fairly decent coordination.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUGHGUY Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Try 'Preferences' -> 'Profile' -> 'Match'I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but you may be able to set it up there. Thanks. Previously, when "between highlights", the game would (or at least could) automatically switch from the pitch view to a screen of the player's choosing, i.e. match stats. In FM13, this feature seems to have been removed and instead the view is always focused on the pitch, and "between highlights" only a small window with one type of information (such as away team ratings) is displayed. There doesn't seem to be an option to restore the functionality in the preferences. Which is a shame as the current match overview or whatever it's called screen would be an ideal screen to show "between highlights". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Previously, when "between highlights", the game would (or at least could) automatically switch from the pitch view to a screen of the player's choosing, i.e. match stats.In FM13, this feature seems to have been removed and instead the view is always focused on the pitch, and "between highlights" only a small window with one type of information (such as away team ratings) is displayed. There doesn't seem to be an option to restore the functionality in the preferences. Which is a shame as the current match overview or whatever it's called screen would be an ideal screen to show "between highlights". I agree, if between highlights it jumped to split screen overview and somethign else, then jumped back to highlights again when necessary, I would be v happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMunch Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Previously, when "between highlights", the game would (or at least could) automatically switch from the pitch view to a screen of the player's choosing, i.e. match stats.In FM13, this feature seems to have been removed and instead the view is always focused on the pitch, and "between highlights" only a small window with one type of information (such as away team ratings) is displayed. There doesn't seem to be an option to restore the functionality in the preferences. Which is a shame as the current match overview or whatever it's called screen would be an ideal screen to show "between highlights". Yes I miss this view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I really don't understand why this is removed. Now i have to check every time i wish to see the match stats... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Previously, when "between highlights", the game would (or at least could) automatically switch from the pitch view to a screen of the player's choosing, i.e. match stats.In FM13, this feature seems to have been removed and instead the view is always focused on the pitch, and "between highlights" only a small window with one type of information (such as away team ratings) is displayed. There doesn't seem to be an option to restore the functionality in the preferences. Which is a shame as the current match overview or whatever it's called screen would be an ideal screen to show "between highlights". Yeah, SI know about this, and I was told that this will not be changed with FM13. We have to click away from the 'pitch' screen when there are no highlights, and back on the 'pitch' screen ourselves once the highlights start again. Which is abit annoying, especially with the current lag when clicking on new screens on the matchday/ plus with cursor not being aligned properly. Try 'Preferences' -> 'Profile' -> 'Match'I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but you may be able to set it up there. Thanks. Had a look in there, and there is a tick box "show information between match highlights" But this is already ticked, so I assume this is just the box underneath the 'waiting for next highlight' (that we can change to show various things) on the pitch screen. There should be a tick box saying "switch to previous screen between match highlights" & another saying "swtich to 'pitch' screen once match highlights start" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The new overview screen could have replaced tv view , but it doesn't go to the pitch when a highlight starts as I can see the game playing out behind the info boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBlues Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is it possible this is a bug? Not sure why else they would provide the new Overview screen layout when the highlights play behind it rather than automatically appearing on top? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulqadir Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Not a bug perhaps but certainly a clanger from SI in my book. As far as I was aware, this was not a pressing complaint among players and indeed it was a very convenient feature. When the 3D came in with the all-singing, all-dancing TV mode, with information being overlaid covering the pitch, it was imminently preferable to be able to switch to classic mode, watch the selected level of highlights and switch back (automatically) to split view with, for example, player ratings and match stats. It is regrettable that it is no longer possible to utilise the 3D mode in this way as it enabled us to strike the right balance between highlights and information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Agree with this I used to like looking at the stats page and then it auto switched to the highlights and back to stats but now have to manually do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wege Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Me too, this and generating a match report for every result you want to see are really annoying.... They said on the other thread that they are aware of this issue so it should be sorted for final release. Fingers crossed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgonzalez Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 They need to leave the good bits alone, and fix the rubbish bits. Evolution, not revolution!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 SI please tell me something here!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBlues Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 anything? either way, would be good to know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUGHGUY Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I think Bakermush or someone posted a response from SI from a different thread - a hugely disappointing response as apparently it is supposed to "work" this way. But just... just why? It don't make no sense man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAV2 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Not a fan of the new set up at all. Loved the old overview screen especially for dead rubber carling cup matches that i could just watch on commetary. Wont be the same if we cant see the kits with the goalscorers underneath anymore, feel SI have made a big mistake here. Too much time spent fixing things that werent broken it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONA Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 my two pence worth I actually like the new interface and like every year it will take time to get used to so just have a good play around before posting everything on here saying I can’t find such and such but regarding the match screen I always had the screen on player ratings to see match fitness and how players are performing then auto switch to TV mode when there is a highlight, like many above have said if this has been removed I can’t understand why as surely any new features or changes should be optional just like when 3d was introduced I wonder how many people would have bought this if 2d mode was still not available ?? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawson6 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I'm not normally one for getting up in arms, but am extremely disappointed that no resolution/concise explanation/justification has been issued from Si on this. They've essentially removed the overview screen that has been in the game since it's existence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maystor Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I agree, I don't like the new set up. That popup screen between highlights is a good idea but it needs to be customizable. This way, if I want match stats and player stats between highlights, I have to fiddle with widgets that keep resetting their position when using "maximized" TV mode or manually click between the overview and field screens which not only is tedious but still doesn't show the information that I need. Please give us an option to have it the way it was in every FM before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aepacino Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 This is awful - I can't believe they've done away with a classic view option. I only found out about this by playing the beta, can I cancel my order having used the code to access the beta? 17 years of CM/FM playing ended by this ridiculous decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubx Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 double post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubx Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I thought I was unable to find it. Can't believe this is removed !! Also the fact that match reports are generated each time we click on a results is idiotism on its best !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Tbh I don't miss it that much now, playing on split mode with the left window dragged to take up 75% of the screen displaying match/overview then whatever I feel like on the right 25% is a massive improvement over the old system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 It's a shame if they have removed it.The closest I can get with the new matchday UI is: Select "Pitch, Split" as your matchday view. Although the split starts out 50:50, you can drag the divider between the two panels, so that one panel takes up about 75:25. Use the dropdown Match Settings box to make sure the highlights show in the bigger panel. Then whenever the highlight ends, it'll go back to showing Match Stats or whatever other view you want. I usually have my player ratings in the smaller panel. It's not perfect (the split seems to keep resetting, especially after half-time or viewing the tactics screen), but it's the closest I've found to the very good old classic view. Thanks. This is probably about as close as you can get. I'm a bit disappointed with this change. While it doesnt sound like it should be a major issue, not flicking back to selected screen between highlights (I would usually use match stats or player ratings) ruins the entire flow of the match day for me. The small box that show up between highlights isnt big enough to be of any use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Just discovered that you can select the screen that shows up between highlights on the split mode. I've set the right hand side to display my teams ratings and the larger screen to defualt to the oppositions ratings when there's no highlights. Pretty much the old style whith this done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maystor Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Doing that dramatically decreases your view though, not even close to the old style. I find the whole match experience rather frustrating because of this tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Yeah, fair point. My screens pretty big so it isnt to bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aepacino Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 This is awful - I can't believe they've done away with a classic view option.I only found out about this by playing the beta, can I cancel my order having used the code to access the beta? 17 years of CM/FM playing ended by this ridiculous decision. Yes, I could cancel my pre-order so I have done. I've also uninstalled the beta as for me it is unplayable without the classic view option. Why SI would alienate its most loyal and long standing customers in this way I simply don't understand. I know SI will not care one jot that they've lost a single customer out of millions but this is a big deal for me, I never thought I'd ever stop playing. Absolutely gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_84 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 its the little things that annoy the most apart from the issue in the OP, the other thing thats gone is the calendar on top of the screen, i know its there on the processing screen but only for a split second Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 its the little things that annoy the mostapart from the issue in the OP, the other thing thats gone is the calendar on top of the screen, i know its there on the processing screen but only for a split second You can click on the calendar when the game is not processing and then you can view it in larger and in more detailed form. I highly suggest for everyone to go through the tutorials. It doesn't take much time and it helps qute a lot. A lot less questions would be asked if the people would go through tutorials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgonzalez Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 All these comments but any response from SI? No. Says it all tbh... It's been brought up many times before, but no one responds saying it will/wont be in the game, or they'll consider adding it... As it is, I'd prefer FM12 with a player update tbh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It would be partially tolerable if the "waiting for next highlight" box remotely took advantage of screen resolution, or was size-adjustable or, at the very least, moved my substitutes into the tiny visible window rather than forcing me to scroll down to see how they are doing. The whole thing is a complete clusterfrick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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