mkabas Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'll try your tactic in my new save with Arsenal! Do you have any tips on how to setup my team? Haven't bought no one yet!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'll try your tactic in my new save with Arsenal! Do you have any tips on how to setup my team? Haven't bought no one yet!!! waiting for half an hour to an hour OK! I'll analysis Arsenal first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 waiting for half an hour to an hourOK! I'll analysis Arsenal first. Ok!!!! Thanks a lot for your help!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-Beam Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 ZS, where is link to New one (made in tactic creator)? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-Beam Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ahh..it was only for FMC< yes? MY apologies :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Ahh..it was only for FMC< yes? MY apologies :/ FMC version is new tactics system, they are the same. Ok!!!! Thanks a lot for your help!!!!! You're welcome http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20121106/20/64477671201211062005043500356498754_002.jpg CA/PA If you do not like to see CA/PA, don't click. Green:Good Red:Bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 FMC version is new tactics system, they are the same.You're welcome http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20121106/20/64477671201211062005043500356498754_002.jpg CA/PA If you do not like to see CA/PA, don't click. Green:Good Red:Bad Man!!! I'm Really amazed with your answer!!! Thanks again!!!! Thanks for your atention with my question and you answer again!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 CA PA http://img170.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20121107/15/6447767120121107152958054.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuche Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 what kind of filter is that for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 what kind of filter is that for? Fo example Player Requirements FC/ST: 1. Finishing,Composure; 2. Pace &Acc, Dribbling. AMC: 1. Pace &Acc, Dribbling; 2. Finishing, Composure;3. Passing, Creativity. Bring you convenience Can use the filter, will know that my players requirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Your AMC, is somehow invisible during matches, in my case Ozil and Kaka. Dont know why, but this is caused by ME, they simply dont try to give killer passes behind the defence very often..Instead of this, they just turn back and pass to defenders I regard AMCas ST in use And cover MC, so my MC performance is very good I research it for a long time If I use 2 st, they have fewer goals If do not let AMC attack, he will only assists, and have fewer goals. Now the game engine update to 13.1.2 I expect you can continue to test Match v1313 ----------- - Refined position of d-line and also the lines in front of it when defending - Brought wingers a bit deeper when defending - Weaker players more likely to favour direct passes quicker - Improved short pass accuracy slightly - Tried to increase number of crosses slightly - Fine tuned shot accuracy - Fixed some minor player on ball decision bugs - Improved trajectory of medium length kicks like free kick shots and corners - Made players better at offering out ball to team mate - Tried to improve player reactions to deflected balls or tackles Made players more willing to slide tackle when opportunity and need arises - Fixed some unnatural save directions from keepers - Fixed keepers trying to save ball at wrong point when its heading for post or bar - Made players slightly better at turning body while on the run - Made strongest player stand ground when 2 players collide while going for a header - Made goal celebration paths a little bit more varied - Fixed comms saying ball well wide when not really that far wide - Some ball physics collision tweaks - Some team talk fixes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Will you look into making a tactic where you can play a Left Back on the left hand side, instead of moving him to the right side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Will you look into making a tactic where you can play a Left Back on the left hand side, instead of moving him to the right side? In fact You can do it just can't let him play like the gif of Marcelo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantacy007 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Will keep you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Notice: Please don't download I'm working on V3 I swear V3 will be much better than V2,I improved defense I'm doing the final test Please wait 1 -- 2 days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 This is V3 I'm testing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevunited Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 what formation is it mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 what formation is it mate? They are the same,still 4231. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfu Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 V3 out yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's just V2's Test from FM-BASE Still working like a charm for me Second season with Arsenal and your tactic: won Community Shield, UEFA Super Cup, CWC, PL, FA Cup and CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 V3 http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=7075 or http://www.rayfile.com/en/files/b5a59f1c-2a5b-11e2-b990-0015c55db73d/[/font][/color][/size] If you do not have strong full-backs,you also can let left foot full-back plays on the left side.Right foot as well. I gave up the cup and Europa League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiebird Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I was going to have a look at this but i cannot d/load it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daredstar Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 What is the filter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 I was going to have a look at this but i cannot d/load it? http://www.wikiupload.com/XP05IHAK1JZ9TSN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 What is the filter? save Players Filter (.pft) to My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2013\filters. Help you to search the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendobson Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hi mate, thanks for the new version. Just one question, the team instructions has "target man" ticked. Do I put the striker as target man? Apologies for the silly question, just wanted to make sure before testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculoos Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Thanks for the tactic but how come i cant make any shouts or change the role to my players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 you have 2 tactics of version 3?? what is difference?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero And Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hi mate, thanks for the new version.Just one question, the team instructions has "target man" ticked. Do I put the striker as target man? Apologies for the silly question, just wanted to make sure before testing. You don't need to put ST as target man but also can try it. as you can see, ST will increase assists and key passes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculoos Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 why banned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero And Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Thanks for the tactic but how come i cant make any shouts or change the role to my players? You can use "N"and"NR" but my tactics don't need shouts or change the role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero And Sea Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 you have 2 tactics of version 3?? what is difference?? Distinction Tactic with "R" prefix means place your ST who use left leg to the right side, advantage to finishing and direct pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efelpee Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hello Zero and Sea, Great first result with your tactic 4-1 against liverpool (i am Norwich) but do you have a Tactics Creator version of V3 i can download? Sorry if you have already posted one. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Would It work for Spurs? With Lennon and Bale as wingers? :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevunited Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Try bale on the right and Lennon on the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero And Sea Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Hello Zero and Sea, Great first result with your tactic 4-1 against liverpool (i am Norwich) but do you have a Tactics Creator version of V3 i can download? Sorry if you have already posted one. Thank you you can use "N" or "NR" Tactics Creator version = FMC Version New Tactics System They are all the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero And Sea Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Tell you a secret ╮ (╯ _ ╰) ╭ Why V3 is better than V2? Because I had made a mistake in V2 “DC mentality 21” It's good in FM09--FM12,but bad in FM13 My creative is too blind！ (⊙o⊙) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceyP Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Zero and Sea - Great work with your tactic, I've been playing with it with a few teams. Psg, Dortmund, Arsenal and Real Madrid. If anyone would like to name a team i will gladly help you with selection Keep up good work Zero My Real Madrid layout is slightly different but almost same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 MaceyP, how would you selection the Spurs team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceyP Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 MaceyP, how would you selection the Spurs team? This may look a little Unorthodox but this is the team i would pick and obviously re-train positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone21 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Excellent tactics. Just one suggestion, start a new topic instead as the OP account is banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Already bought Götze and Showcross, They two in for Sandro and Defoe then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceyP Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 id put gotze in for sigurosson, move sandro to DM and put shawcross in cb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Osmann Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 This may look a little Unorthodox but this is the team i would pick and obviously re-train positions. Mate, what skin are you using? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceyP Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Mate, what skin are you using? :-) Football Manger Classic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zегo Sea Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Excellent tactics. Just one suggestion, start a new topic instead as the OP account is banned. Don't worry I will come back in three days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose4 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 This tactic gave me a great starting point after getting Birmingham promoted through the play-offs after season 1. Anyone familiar with the Blues will know that the starting situation of the club in FM13 is prettty realistic (no transfer budget, takeover bids coming in straight away, maxed out wage budget) making the situation after scraping promotion even more difficult! I used a 4132 with orthodox wingers, a target man and a poacher in season one, and it got me promoted - but barely. I stumbled across this tactic and thought it looked interesting so built familiarity with it through the summer and pre-season friendlies as most of my current players fitted into the shape well anyway. Sometimes an attacking move came together that was amazing, but we were getting torn apart in defence by teams with even a degree of attacking flair - shown to the full extent with an opening day 5-0 defeat to Man City away and a 6-1 drubbing at Old Trafford. So I looked in detail at what was happening on the pitch and the team/individual player instructions of the tactic: Wingers were getting stupid amounts of space and wandering unopposed into the near post to slot home, or having all day to pick a perfect pass for an on-rushing striker or midfielder to pass it into the net. We were having excellent amounts of possession in every match (50% to 65%)- even the heavy defeats - but not really doing anything with it. On the ball, players were holding the ball for far too long seeming to have no idea where to pass, then losing possession and conceding on the break. This was particularly bad around the edge of the opposition box: playing endless short passes but going nowhere, looking for the killer pass rather than having a shot. So, I've tweaked things around based on my own players, and the observations from my matches so far: Team tempo was set as slow as it could be, every player on the pitch was set to 'Hold Up Ball' and time wasting was set to as often as possible. I've changed these around to a much higher tempo, rarely timewasting with only certain attacking players holding up the ball. Checked which midfielders had a 'long shot' attribute of 15 or above and allowed them to shoot from distance sometimes. Removed the 'Roam from Postion' instruction from DR, DL, DCs and DMC and increase the team width from narrow to try and counter the space that oppostion wingers were getting. The results have been great. We're still conceding too many, but then I haven't got any pace in my defence (and it wasn't great in the Championship either!) and it's a damn sight better than before. The difference is in the attacking play: There is much more fluidity and urgency with far less wasted possession coming from holding the ball for too long. The point of the post is twofold: Firstly, many thanks to Zero Sea for the work put into developing the tactic in the first place. It's a great piece of work and obviously with the right players has been proven to work for many. Without that as a starting point I think I would really have struggled to get going in the Premier League. Secondly, it highlights again the point that I've seen made in this forum many times already: It's looking unlikely that there will be any sort of 'one-size-fits-all' tactic for FM13. It really didn't take too long to look into what wasn't going right for my team and make a few tweaks to get things going in the right direction. It is worth looking at, and in my opinion adds more to the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepollard Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 How do you download this into the game? Its downloading as a zip file, im abit of a techophobe so i dont know how to get it to work onto my save. Could someone help me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffykins Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 How do you download this into the game? Its downloading as a zip file, im abit of a techophobe so i dont know how to get it to work onto my save. Could someone help me You may need to download + install a piece of software, such as http://www.7-zip.org/ . Once installed if you right click the file you should then be able to extract it, which will then give you the tactic files, which you can put into your tactics folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
master341 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Hi Zero, awesome strategy. V3 works really well for my Granada. I realized that your tactic places a lot of stress on the CM and DMC. Any CM or DMC with a stamina of less than 14 tend to end up in the low 70 or 60% range by the end of the game. Is this normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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