Erimus1876 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Is there a way to stop an over-written, or custom, nation from entering international competitions or playing international friendlies? I've tried overwriting the inactive CIS, removed them from Fifa and reduced their coefficients to 0.00. "CIS" has been renamed to "School Associations" and only contains School and Academy teams and their respective competitions, but for some reason it has a national team called "School Associations" that enters the World Cup and European Championships and plays international friendlies against the likes of Sweden and England! How do I make it so this 'country' is excluded from all international football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 You can untick the box "Full member of FIFA" and that should do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 I already tried that. They still play international matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm out of ideas then . Setting coefficients won't matter, as you're just setting yourself up as Montserrat v.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakpase Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Maybe you can do your editting, set nation rules then remove the nation from their continent, only way I can think of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Maybe you can do your editting, set nation rules then remove the nation from their continent, only way I can think of. I think that could work but the continent tab is greyed out on all the nations, so I can't edit them unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakpase Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think that could work but the continent tab is greyed out on all the nations, so I can't edit them unfortunately. Please check your PMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 This is driving me nuts! It seems all nations have hard-coded fixtures linked to their continental setting. You can't delete them, and removing the continent completely causes the game to crash when setting up, so that's a no go. This really does limit the use of nation editing. Why can't we delete international schedules or exclude custom nations from international tournaments if we want to? :thdn: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 set the region to the Caribbean - maybe since there are a number of nations that aren't FIFA members this will let you avoid int competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 I've tried all sorts with this - set the region to Caribbean, and tried other regions too. I've tried all the different continental settings. I haven't found a combination that doesn't generate international fixtures, or crash. I guess its just not possible with the FM13 editor. The only thing left to try is to go through all the non-European and non-South American nations and see if any of the really minor nations don't have international matches. Although having just checked the Wallis & Futuna Islands, even they have international fixtures generated, so I don't hold out too much hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakpase Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Have you tried with the reputation set to zero? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Its hardcoded at a minimum of 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyt93 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 out of interest why didn't you just base it in Liechtenstein, they don't have a league system and as far as I remember don't have any teams already assigned there and only 1 cup and their only european competitior is the winner of the Liechtenstein cup or in game as this isn't active it's the heghest placed team from liechtenstein in the swiss league system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Rebel Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't understand why CIS would be playing games anyway, unless manually edited into the game to do so.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 I think what happens is as soon as you add nation rules the game automatically creates an international schedule for that nation. I've just added nation rules to Liechtenstein as sammyt93 suggested, and Liechtenstein are now in WC Qualifying Group 7 with the likes of Serbia and Bosnia. I added nation rules to the inactive East Germany, Great Britain, the CIS etc, and as soon as the game starts they're all participants in the world cup. If you set up nation rules then remove the continent and/or the region, the game will crash when setting up. So that workaround won't work. Unticking FIFA membership makes no difference, and setting the rep to 0 won't work as its hardcoded as 1 and even modding the .xml file to make it 0 still reverts it to 1. I even found a "no internationals" file someone made for FM10, loaded it into the FM13 editor and re-saved it to make it compatible with FM13. But again as soon as you add nation rules to any nation, inactive or otherwise, FM13 will put that nation into an international tournament. Not having a tickbox somwhere saying "NO INTERNATIONAL MATCHES FOR THIS NATION" is a really stupid oversight by SI as it means things like creating an Academy League system, or School League system, or any manner of minor "plug & play" competitions are pretty much pointless since those competitions and whatever you name them will have an international team that plays in World Cups and International friendlies. The only way I'll get this school team network system to work will be to tag it on the end of an existing nation, like Wales for example, and set each teams 'based nation' to whatever country the school association belongs to. This works fine, except that Wales has to be set as playable and active in every game I start now. Not ideal as I wanted the School & Academy League systems to be plug & play leagues completely separate from any nation so they could be played either on their own as a fun grass-roots game, or have them attached to existing games that offer 14 & 15 year-old negens a chance to play matches as soon as they enter the game, giving us the opportunity to follow their career paths from schoolboy level through to the academy leagues before being picked up by professional clubs. It could have also improved player development as these newgens would be playing competitive football from the outset instead of stagnating in pro-teams reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyt93 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 my idea was that as Liechtenstein is a nation anyway, and will generate players at clubs that play in the swiss leagues, then it doesn't really matter if you setup your academy competitions there and base the clubs in england because they should all still bring through english regens and Liechtenstein should function as it always does. the only thing you'd have to watch out for is if creating a cup in Liechtenstein overwrites their normal european qualification rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cata89 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You could add new International Rules and replace World Cup. Add 2 small countries to play. This will stop nations to enter international competitions such European Championship and World Cup, but will still play friendlies (only 4-6 games). I think this is the best way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus1876 Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions guys I think after having tested a few seasons now, sammy's idea of using Liechtenstein to be host file for these competitions works well enough. Since Liechtenstein has no domestic competitions in FM, it doesn't interfere with the school & academy leagues. I can also set Liechtenstein's region to UK & Ireland without it crashing. So if its totally impossible to have an 'empty' nation with 0 national & international presence, then Liechtenstein is the next best option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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