churros Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The ingame tooltip states that non football costs refer to the wages paid out to non-football staff. Who are these non football staff? It surely can't be my backroom staff because I've calculated 120k monthly tops for them in total, but the finances have reflected over 700k a month. Are these more ambiguous elements that we have little to no control of, but depends on the stature and status of our club, I'm guessing eg security, administration, groundskeepers, matchday managers and organisers, and such? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjaxNo1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Im guessing its all them, the staff that work in the offices and the behind the scenes ones, I guess its almost impossible to bring this into the game as a manager wouldnt really employ receptionists and stuff so you have to live with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmkz Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well you look at what any football club do for their fans that could fall under non football costs: Charity events TV programs / webcast Website maintenance Local out reach Other staff salaries such as receptionists, garbage cleaner, someone to fix your training facility, someone to mow the lawn and trim the trees at your training center Utilities etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoceanfloor Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Depending on the size of your club you'll have: ground staff - stadium and pitch maintenance kit staff general office staff - admin/website etc players canteen staff commercial staff - from people who sell advertising to those who work in the club shop/sell match or lottery tickets etc Bills Bus driver or bus hire Matchday hospitality waiting/bar staff Pie shop staff Programme sellers... That's just off the top of my head - It all adds up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffi182 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I think it is i crazy the amount of money that goes in to this. First season as Liverpool i paid 14 mil, now i march of the second season, i have paid 33 mil. Thats just crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Depending on the size of your club you'll have:ground staff - stadium and pitch maintenance kit staff general office staff - admin/website etc players canteen staff commercial staff - from people who sell advertising to those who work in the club shop/sell match or lottery tickets etc Bills Bus driver or bus hire Matchday hospitality waiting/bar staff Pie shop staff Programme sellers... That's just off the top of my head - It all adds up! Ground maintenance is already in another section of outgoings Travel is already in another section too A number of those would already be covered in matchday expenses I would imagine big clubs would contract out catering and such, with a company paying to do business in the stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSH Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I think it is i crazy the amount of money that goes in to this. First season as Liverpool i paid 14 mil, now i march of the second season, i have paid 33 mil. Thats just crazy. 33m for non football costs?! Are you Barcelona or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionbag Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'm Newcastle and in 2018 our non-football costs were 44 million pounds. We're at 41 million in April of 2019. I chalk it up to the hucksters in marketing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Im currently in 2019 and last season paid out just over 30m in non-football costs as Liverpool FC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycstorm Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It's also stuff any large business has like commercial insurance, gas, water, electric, the phone bill, food, laundry detergent, hotel rooms and travel expenses, expense accounts, office stationary...the cost of a screw to fix a loose seat in the east stand...literally EVERYTHING not directly related to the players on the pitch and the coaches that mange them. That can really start to add up for a large company with lots of employees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFCJACK Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 ..........Policing, all clubs have to pay for matchday policing, also stadium security, stewards ect............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 ..........Policing, all clubs have to pay for matchday policing, also stadium security, stewards ect............ .......Which are all under Matchday Expenses..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveGLeeds Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I raised this way back before the last ME patch that fixed the tax issue. It's worrying to hear that it's still prevalent for the higher division clubs like Liverpool. Forty-four million a year in Non-football costs is a joke!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionbag Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm Newcastle and in 2018 our non-football costs were 44 million pounds. We're at 41 million in April of 2019. I chalk it up to the hucksters in marketing. Finished the 2019 season and it went up to 47.5 million pounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 In 2010 United paid just under £50m for non-staff costs. These included £21m match-day costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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