Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just curious if the FM coders can code in Pep's future manager move to Bayern or not - Is it possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althaz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I would assume this wouldn't be too hard. I haven't checked for staff, but for players this is possible, so I don't see why it wouldn't be for a manager as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think they have already said they don't intend to do it for players though, in the Jan window update all the players will be at their new clubs in August 2012. Unless the reason behind it is that they can't code in future movements of money, then I doubt they will do Guardiola, short of making him manager for the 12/13 season. Poor show SI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think they have already said they don't intend to do it for players though, in the Jan window update all the players will be at their new clubs in August 2012.Unless the reason behind it is that they can't code in future movements of money, then I doubt they will do Guardiola, short of making him manager for the 12/13 season. Poor show SI Why not? This situation is different. One manager is retiring, another is taking over. Surely this just includes an end date on one contract and a start date on another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree it should be easy, just that I don't see it as fitting in with (my understanding of) their general update methodology. I am 100% only guessing though, and would love to be proven wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree it would be easy, just that I don't see it as fitting in with (my understanding of) their general update methodology.I am 100% only guessing though, and would love to be proven wrong. I'm sure it's pretty simple with the editor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm sure it's pretty simple with the editor though. Is it possible to make a future move, for a manager, with the editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 @ OneUnited Of course it can be done with the editor, that's not what I'm asking though. I wrote coded for a reason, meaning, can it be actually hard coded into the game to happen by the FM coders. Nothing to do with editing. You can only set up future transfers in editor, though I wish you could do loans and managerial changes aswell @ Keyzer No, you can't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is it possible to make a future move, for a manager, with the editor? Only in a round about way. Set Bayerns manager as contract ending in 2013 and change Pep to have future plans of becoming their manager. It should work. Robert, I agree manager changes should be coded, however, what if you wanted to start a new save with Bayern? Would Pep automatically take over from you after a year as it was hard coded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 That's a good point. How annoying would that be Are you sure the Guradiola thing would work? Because he often takes over at piddly clubs like Fiorentina in my saves. Maybe I'll do a holiday test run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 That's a good point. How annoying would that be Are you sure the Guradiola thing would work? Because he often takes over at piddly clubs like Fiorentina in my saves. Maybe I'll do a holiday test run. I don't see why not. On my save he took over United two seasons in. So if the Bayern manager retires after one season, and Guardiola has managing Bayern as a goal, then he'd take that if the opportunity is there. Holiday and try, it should happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergioma33 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 they should let us to make things like that in the editor, also takeovers of teams. They should give us more freedom. Some of us likes those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 17, 2013 Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? Good point. Not thought of it like that and kind of kills any debate about adding future manager moves. You'd be gutted if it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? Of course but I was actually asking if it were possible for coders to do it. However I would love there to be an option for us to edit these things ourselves for our own saves, just like future transfers. This way we can do stuff like have Pep going to Bayern end of season, or retiring Fergie in 3 seasons and mourinho taking over etc. That would be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? The code could work only for AI managers. If a human manager is training Bayern, then at the end of first season the code is abolished. If a AI manager is training Bayern, then at the end of first season he leaves and is replaced by Guardiola. On the other hand... If a human manager is training Bayern, then Guardiola can sign for other AI team in the first season. If a AI manager is training Bayern, then Guardiola cannot sign for any team during the first season, in order to be available at the start of the second season to take over the Bayern job. I think it's pretty simple code, to be implemented at the start of the save game, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 What would happen if you would set Heynckes to retire after the first season and give Guardiola a contract at Bayern that starts from 01.07.2013? Just a thought, could be saying stupid stuff here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Read Neil Brock's post I did, but as a user I am not planning on playing with Bayern again as I already play as them atm . I just want to know if that would work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmFutbolManager Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I did, but as a user I am not planning on playing with Bayern again as I already play as them atm . I just want to know if that would work. You can't set future contracts for managers via the editor. You could only change his future plans to wanting to manage Bayern (as I said before Neil, but people have missed that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 I tried it but Bayern hired Lucien Favre instead. So despite Pep being available, a world class manager, on Bayerns favoured personell list, Pep favouring being manager of Bayern, they still hired Favre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrethiel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't think coding future transfers is a good idea in a Sim, the conditions between real life and the sim state could be really different, with different clubs winning different titles, injuries, different progression and a ton of other variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Anything is possible. Code in Pep to be Bayern Boss. If human player takes over Bayern then move is nulled by code. It's a computer program, program it (easier said than done I know ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't think coding future transfers is a good idea in a Sim, the conditions between real life and the sim state could be really different, with different clubs winning different titles, injuries, different progression and a ton of other variables. No, but the option to do so would be greatly appreciated. Then we can mould the game to our liking more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't think coding future transfers is a good idea in a Sim, the conditions between real life and the sim state could be really different, with different clubs winning different titles, injuries, different progression and a ton of other variables. I agree actually. I had been pretty peeved at SI's january update taking effect from August 2012, but what you say makes sense. If they were to code Holtby moving in summer 2013 (assuming that happens), then what happened if tottenham got relegated over the course of season 1. Then you would have them signing him to play in championship next year (bearing in mind the transfer was agreed IRL at a time when that will plainly not happen), and would be just as unrealistic as him being there from August 2012. Thanks for helping accept the upcoming data update better! (can understand the optional argument, at least for the editor in general even if not official updates) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Anything is possible. Code in Pep to be Bayern Boss. If human player takes over Bayern then move is nulled by code. It's a computer program, program it (easier said than done I know ) Did everybody missed my post #16? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Did everybody missed my post #16? I agree that would be simple to code if it was done by coding, but I don't think it would be simple to code within the paradigm of the db and the current editor. I don't expect SI want to set a precedent of going outside the realm of the editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikopol Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Well it could be easily done via Editor i guess. At the Contract-Part of Guardiola you give him a contract that starts at 1.7.2013 and Heynckes a contract that ends at 30.6.2013. Didn't try it out myself but it should work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It doesn't .. as has been mentioned several times already I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Warren Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I tried it but Bayern hired Lucien Favre instead. So despite Pep being available, a world class manager, on Bayerns favoured personell list, Pep favouring being manager of Bayern, they still hired Favre. What date did you set for Heynckes retirement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 What date did you set for Heynckes retirement? I got his contract to run out on the 26th May, the day after the CL final incase Bayern got that far, and had the will leave at contract end box ticked aswell as will retire after spell at current club box.. So he left the club then, and Pep was still free as a bird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You can't but the closest thing you can do is set Heynckes' retirement date and Guardiola's career plans to "wants to manage" Bayern. Might work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prtyrckk Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You can't but the closest thing you can do is set Heynckes' retirement date and Guardiola's career plans to "wants to manage" Bayern. Might work. And probably set pep as one of Bayern's liked personnel? Just a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 As I've said, I did all that, but Bayern chose Lucien Favre instead. Pep was not even approached by Bayern. I wonder if it had to do with reputation, or probably just choosing a manager from that league. I remember in FM12 Pep would go and manage Fiorentina and the like though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart91 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Patch 13.3 Guardiola career plans "has a preference to manage FC Bayern". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Warren Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Sounds like an FM challenge; can you start elsewhere and do enough to get the Bayern job ahead of Pep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainlayzee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 He went to Chelsea on my last save, then got sacked after 3 months because they hadn't won a game....who said this game isn't realistic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainlayzee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Patch 13.3 Guardiola career plans "has a preference to manage FC Bayern". This is in the game or this is what you could do to code it in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? If a user takes over Bayern then surely it would remove any future manager changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Also, it sounds so simple. Program Pep to take over on a set future date unless manager is human... But what if Bayern take 1 point from their opening 20 games? Should they be unable to fire their manager? Should Pep join early? If they didn't have a champions league spot looking likely for next year, who's to say he would have joined? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 So what happens if a user decides to manage Bayern first season? Sacked at the end of the first season to be replaced by Pep? Wouldn't you fire pretty much anyone to hire him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer.joel Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He went to mine from Chelsea in 2016 on my game anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart91 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Jupp Heynckes is set to retire in game on 30.6.2013. Anyone completed first season on latest patch and does Pep go to Bayern? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yes, he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyliam7 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Why does anyone care about this? This isn't FM14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooro23 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Jupp Heynckes is set to retire in game on 30.6.2013. Too bad, as he denied rumours about his retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaSince86 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 His retirement isn't set in stone, so much so we are considering him to take over from Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobble2002 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I would have thought SI would not code it in as it does not happen until after this season so therefore it would be a change for FM2014 not 2013 . Surely they only code in managers and players who are there this year , or move in the jan transfer window . Not possibly there in future years . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobble2002 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 His retirement isn't set in stone, so much so we are considering him to take over from Rafa Thats if he wants the hassle from Abramovich :-) But i guess a final payoff for being in charge for a few months would be a good retirement fund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainlayzee Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Funny enough I am only on the standard database and he has now gone to Bayern, not sure if this is coded in or pure fluke? Bring it on I say since I am Dortmund!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Too bad, as he denied rumours about his retirement. Got any links for that? The BBC reported that he will retire and they don't typically publish rumours as fact. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21048679 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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