Dan13L Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 In case people haven't seen it, updated fix list for ME http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/320432-Next-match-engine-update-fixes-so-far...(-updated-10th-January-) Match v1326 ----------- - Tuned dribbling generally - Fixed issue that counted too many dubious instances of running past opponent - Toned down poor decision long shots - Fixed some instances of short underhit passes - Made keepers more aggressive in meeting short backpasses - Slight improvement to defender positioning for short goal kicks - Fixed bug that could cause players to try to clear ball from in front of own goal instead of scooping it clear Match v1327 ----------- - Improved last ditch tackling and engaging of ball close to own goal - Slightly reduced defender reactions at lower levels - Improved engagement of ball player to reduce effectiveness of running with ball - Fixed some instances where defenders dont engage ball player around own area until its too late - Further tuned kick and header accuracy - Reduced aimless passes into channel from high up pitch - Fixed rare instances of dead ball not being delivered correctly into opposing area Match v1328 ----------- - Further tweaked defending against ball player - Fine tuned run past opponent counts slightly further - Made dribbling slightly harder to achieve at higher speeds - Made most players a favour more direct passes slightly - Small fix to player reactions to loose balls Match v1329 ----------- - Made defenders more aggressive in terms of looking to tackle ball player - Fixed players with low closing down settings doing it so high up the pitch - Fixed players set to specifically man mark opponent from leaving him too eagerly to engage ball player - Small fix to specific man marking when opponent goes close to opposition d-line - Fixed some interceptions being logged as tackles - Fixed some instances of players playing opposition onside when defending free kicks - Fixed some more instances of players not reacting to loose balls - Fixed corner phase of play not ending when ball cleared way outside area, causing some bizarre knock ons - Fixed rare occurance of play not restarting after a goal Match v1330 ----------- - Fixed player not trying to turn and shoot when close to goal - Fixed rare instances of unrealistically innacurate kicks and passes - Fixed some further issues with players closing down or not closing down properly - Fixed some headers being unrealistically unchallenged due to collision avoidance code - Fixed too many unrealistically weak penalty kicks - Fixed some instances of unrealistically poor first touch - Fixed players getting stuck in nets when retrieving ball - Fixed rare issue causing keepers not to pick up routine ball near edge of own area - Reduced crowding of players going for same ball on some crosses/corners - Fixed assigned throw in takers not always being used for throws in attacking areas Match v1331 ----------- - Further refinements to closing down and engagement of the ball player - Some fine tuning of the weighting of short passes - Made wide midfielders pay a bit more attention to opposition full backs - One minor ball physics related fix Match v1332 ----------- - Fixed unrealistic dallying on ball - Less aimless clearances upfield when not under pressure - Couple more tweaks to closing down logic - Fixed bug where keeper fumbles ball then doesnt react properly - Reduced risky passes across defence line - Fix for ball passing through net occasionally Match v1333 ----------- - Couple more small tweaks to closing down logic - Further improved wide midfielder tracking of full backs - Fixed goal kicks not being taken short - Fixed quick free kicks rarely being taken - Fixed bug where keeper moves a long distance to retrieve ball at free kick and is caught out of position when its taken quickly - Fixed bug where keepers dont always try to dive at attackers' feet - Fixed players dropping too deep on some free kicks - Fixed a couple of bugs causing keepers not to intercept speculative balls properly - Fixed a couple of bugs causing players not to react to loose balls or passes correctly - Fixed bug causing player not to attempt jump for ball that he cannot quite reach - Tweak to off ball movement - Slightly encouraged high reward lofted passes - Made players who have just done a burst of running more prone to miscontrol - Fixed bug where player may over-run ball unneccesarily - Slight toning down on accuracy of more difficult kicks - Further fix for incorrect players taking attacking throw ins - Team talk fix relating to overfamiliarity with manager talk So 1326-1333 are where we are with regards to the next update. No release date set just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJackLester Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Blimey! SI have been busy. Good work guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Whoahhh From 1328 to 1333 in 14 days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's nice when you can equate fixes with problems you've seen, also gives a glimpse into how complex the ME is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's nice when you can equate fixes with problems you've seen, also gives a glimpse into how complex the ME is. This is true. From the list i can point out 3 our 4 issues that will be fixed in the future! Great news! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu1892 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Absolutely. All of my major gripes have been acknowledged, and i'd like to thank anyone who bothered their arse to report them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's nice when you can equate fixes with problems you've seen, also gives a glimpse into how complex the ME is. It also proves how much work needed to be done. Don't think I've ever seen so much work in a ME update! This isn't a moan though, thanks to SI for putting in all this work. It really is appreciated. Just release the damn thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJackLester Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It also proves how much work needed to be done. Don't think I've ever seen so much work in a ME update!This isn't a moan though, thanks to SI for putting in all this work. It really is appreciated. Just release the damn thing BOOO Chris! You're like the pantomine baddie! BOOOOOO If this gets released for the weekend (i know Neil, you can't say anything) i will be an happy little Spireite! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 BOOO Chris! You're like the pantomine baddie! BOOOOOO If this gets released for the weekend (i know Neil, you can't say anything) i will be an happy little Spireite! Someone has to keep the mods on their toes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 there are like 3 fixes to dribbling there :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 there are like 3 fixes to dribbling there :/ As I understand it this could be because one change could have effects on other parts. So SI might need to tweak the same thing several times because they notice knock-on effects from other changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Someone has to keep the mods on their toes Nah, we could just delete you instead of your posts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 As I understand it this could be because one change could have effects on other parts. So SI might need to tweak the same thing several times because they notice knock-on effects from other changes. Exactly so, think of how many ways you could try to adjust the goals per shots ratio and the possible knock on effects of any one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted January 25, 2013 Administrators Share Posted January 25, 2013 The most recent changes are being tested (as all the changes are) so no chance for a release this weekend I'd say. Have to ask for patience again guys, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlm Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Thank you very much for letting us know, the changes to the ME look really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
breum Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Great to see this list, even if its not coming this weekend. Looks like things are being addressed and hopefully the next patch should solve a lot of problems. I'm excited Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagzinho Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm genuinely as excited about this next update as I get in early November waiting for the main game release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakaveliPT Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Nice list, seems one step closer to achieve the full potential of this ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hope this is out next week so I can get back into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Nah, we could just delete you instead of your posts Fair. Thanks for the update Neil. Would be great to see it next week but obviously got to get through testing first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arisilan Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 - Fixed players getting stuck in nets when retrieving ball Eh, imagine this irl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Eh, imagine this irl [video=youtube_share;qKF1T3jlRUw] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The only problem with Neil saying that is I'm gonna delay starting a game now And obviously testing could show some problems and it could be put back again. But I'm gonna gamble and wait for the update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertPage Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I don't see anything about through balls? surely there will be more through balls in the next patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The lack of through balls will be addressed through a number of the above fixes Robert, passing in general has seemingly had a fairly large amount of attention in the list. Don't panic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertPage Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The lack of through balls will be addressed through a number of the above fixes Robert, passing in general has seemingly had a fairly large amount of attention in the list.Don't panic! I guessed it would, just seeing nothing specific about made me want some confirmation that there will be a fix for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitouCythe Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 If through balls start to exist again, and my wingers stop behaving like IF (each time they do, a baby panda dies), but i guess this one is adressed by dribbling tuning, then i will be the happiest FM junkie on the earth. If number of shoots gets lowerred and each game in key highlights do not last 20 minutes anymore, but the pre-patch 10 minutes, i will be even more happy. It feels good to get such update, even if it certainly means 1 week more of testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I guessed it would, just seeing nothing specific about made me want some confirmation that there will be a fix for it There isn't a line of code that says through balls = x, it's achieved by adjusting a whole host of parameters, none of which includes the words "through balls" And yes I once had the rare privilege of seeing a bit of the ME code, I felt like a caveman looking at a jet engine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piethief100 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The most recent changes are being tested (as all the changes are) so no chance for a release this weekend I'd say. Have to ask for patience again guys, thanks. I'm grateful for the update, even if it is bad news. It's better than fervent speculation, and regular forum checks to look for the update release! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby2008 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Really appreciate this kind of information although we have to wait another week (I hope no more than a few days ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can I ask will this update only be ME changes or will other changes be included? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can I ask will this update only be ME changes or will other changes be included? Can't be certain yet, but it's likely other "fixes" will be included if they're ready, it's been that way in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 no rush, for patch, I got tactics that work with this ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can't be certain yet, but it's likely other "fixes" will be included if they're ready, it's been that way in the past. Ah I see thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE82 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 no rush, for patch, I got tactics that work with this ME Have you/or can you upload your tactic please?? I haven't been able to play this game yet this year and i've a feeling we aren't going to get the update anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Have you/or can you upload your tactic please?? I haven't been able to play this game yet this year and i've a feeling we aren't going to get the update anytime soon. Well even though Neil said no chance to this weekend for him to answer the question of it being this weekend shows to me (hopefully) that its very close now. Presuming testing all goes well of course. I'm hoping for possibly in the week sometime but that's my hope, not expecting anything. As I said something could come up in testing that delays it for another week or more so no point getting too excited. Just never know with SI though, they're crafty buggers. It could just as easily come out tonight as it could in March I'm just doing some challenges to keep occupied to whenever it does come out then I'll start a proper game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Not this weekend, I'm pretty sure you can say that.. It's a fairly large update and will require A LOT of testing... I'd be surprised (happily so) if it's out by the end of the week at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paok_revolution Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Welshace when do you think that the new update will be ready to be out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Mods are not privy to that sort of information, as always it will be released when it's ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE82 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Mods are not privy to that sort of information, as always it will be released when it's ready. well, let's hope it is ready this time then cos the last one certainly wasn't. Fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Indeed I know as much as you do. But with the size of that list, testing will take some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris21 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Indeed I know as much as you do. But with the size of that list, testing will take some time. Testing could have started before you think though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 no matter when it comes out, it will make the game that much greater. I am very much enjoying the current build non the less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Testing could have started before you think though... Yes, but if testing picks up a fault then it's adjust and start testing all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydy9 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I'm happy to help with testing if you fancy updating my ME ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobble2002 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 And then watch the new lot of threads screaming about how their super wingers etc no longer go on mazy runs all the time and why dont my tactics work now SI will never win :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibby123 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Cool, plenty of recent things in the list that have been bugging me last week or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 as long as the last highlight of the match when my team is chasing the game is a player blasting the ball from the halfway line all the way back to my keeper, I will be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianscousemac Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I just hope SI do take there time because once a few things are sorted with the ME this will be the best FM by far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huiop2 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 looking forward to this update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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