Why ME have to show us those last secods of every match?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Why cant it just end the match without showing us the whistle?

In FM12 if ME showed us something when there was only seconds left there usually was something worth of showing.

[hashassin]

it's the element of suspense...

[R.P. McMurphy]

it's the element of suspense...

It was in FM12. But in FM13 you learn quickly that ME show you the last second in every ******* match. Why ruin it like this?

[scooterSB]

it's the element of suspense...

I agree, and think it adds something, if it's a close game and its the dying seconds of the game you never know if something my happen, so lets see.

[Neil Brock]

Bit anti-climatic if it just runs through until the end no? At least you get to see the final whistle blown - plus as said above, makes those last second equaliser/winners/losers all the more dramatic!

[R.P. McMurphy]

Bit anti-climatic if it just runs through until the end no? At least you get to see the final whistle blown - plus as said above, makes those last second equaliser/winners/losers all the more dramatic!

Thats how it worked in FM12. Now you know it will come everytime. Final whistle blown adds nothing if before it there is just a few going nowhere passes in your own half. In FM12 you had to wait and see if there was still some situation coming or just whistle. Do you expect player to be that stupid that he really thinks there is something worth of showing everytime? Ruined.

[themadsheep2001]

Thats how it worked in FM12. Now you know it will come everytime. Final whistle blown adds nothing if before it there is just a few going nowhere passes in your own half. In FM12 you had to wait and see if there was still some situation coming or just whistle. Do you expect player to be that stupid that he really thinks there is something worth of showing everytime? Ruined.

Well I've scored few times in the final highlights before the whistle. The last game I played saw my side clear two Spurs shots off the line, then a Kaboul header just over the bar. Sometimes you get something sometimes you don't. I personally like seeing the final moments before the whistle blows.

[R.P. McMurphy]

I just hit new low. My "highlight" before the whistle was player throwing the ball from the side and one second after whistle.

[Sussex Hammer]

I like it, in 12 you knew that if the highlight appeared with seconds to go that something would happen and if the opposition were attacking it was a case of "oh no, here we go". Now however you are unsure, something might or might not and there is an element of relief, for me anyway, if I am ahead and we just pass it about and see the game out. It just adds a bit of will there or won't there rather than there definitely will !!

[R.P. McMurphy]

One more thing. When the last highlight starts there is not enough time for anything to happen. Just couple seconds. So it is just for the final whistle in FM13.

In FM12 sometimes highlight was like last minute of the match. I really dont need to hear/see the ******* whistle every time. My brain is still set for FM12 when highlight starts I expect more than just the final whistle.

[Tastudark]

I really like the new feature, for reasons Neil Brock said.

However id suggest having it not on key highlights as it one of only a few highlights and usually results in nothing. Or maybe give us an option to turn it off?

[lil ole me]

Its ok if the scores are locked or very close but a total waste of time if 3-0 up and only shows a few back passes and ends up being a total waste of 30 secs but all in all like someone said in another post, i have had a few equalisers in those precious last seconds and i think they outway the numerous times nothing happens.

[Äktsjon Männ]

I don't mind seeing the last 30 seconds of the match, but there's absolutely no need to show me the end of the first half and the start of each half for 30 seconds. Just show me the kick off and then cut it instantly if nothing is going to happen.

On a similar subject - although it's much better than FM 2012 and earlier, there's still way too much completely useless stuff being shown in extended and comprehensive highlights. Why do I ever have to see a player walking up to the ref or picking the ball up for a throw in etc? Just cut straight to the relevant point please. And why on earth doesn't the game show me half the fouls leading to free kicks in dangerous areas on comprehensive? Having highlights start with the opposing team taking a free kick straight from the edge of the box without seeing the passage of play leading up to it frustrates the hell out of me.

[this_is_gav]

Bit anti-climatic if it just runs through until the end no? At least you get to see the final whistle blown - plus as said above, makes those last second equaliser/winners/losers all the more dramatic!

Not at all. You know if the highlight starts half a minute before the added time is due to finish, the chances of a goal are about 1%.

If the highlight starts about 90 seconds before the end, you're going to see some action of some description.

It adds sod all suspense, as you already know if there's going to be any drama or not simply by looking at the clock.

Seeing the beginning of each half makes more sense though.

Edit: Though perhaps neither should be shown if "key highlights" are selected unless action is guaranteed. I don't class the final whistle being blown after the ball has been hoofed into the 3rd tier as a key highlight, personally. On a more comprehensive highlights option, then perhaps they have a place.

[hashassin]

Not at all. You know if the highlight starts half a minute before the added time is due to finish, the chances of a goal are about 1%.

If the highlight starts about 90 seconds before the end, you're going to see some action of some description.

It adds sod all suspense, as you already know if there's going to be any drama or not simply by looking at the clock.

Seeing the beginning of each half makes more sense though.

no, i already had few goals that happened when highlight started around mid 91min, goal past 92 min, when ref added 3 min... only bit where i'm almost sure that nothing will happen (because only really certain things in life are death and taxes) is when highlight starts around 15 secs before end, and this is always a big "phew", or "****" from me.

[Sikker]

At least you only have to see the last 2-3 seconds. Before latest patch you could easily watch 2 minutes of absolutely nothing.

[Sir_Liam]

I actually like this feature. Before when it showed last minute highlights you knew there'd be a genuine highlight which would affect the outcome. Now it makes it more unpredictable as that might not be the case. I also think it adds more drama when a goal is scored.

Sometimes it's a bit pointless, but I prefer it this way overall.

[Ryknow]

It's annoying, but you can always speed up game time if you're well ahead, so I don't see much of a problem.

[Richard76]

Surely the whole point of selecting key highlights is so you don't have to sit through pointless highlights such as this?

I could understand seeing the closing seconds on extended highlights but not on key.

[Erimus1876]

I like it. Then again I don't ever view games in commentary mode, and rarely in key highlights mode. Extended or Comprehensive is my preferred choice so its good to see the final few moments of every game since it adds to the tension. However I'm all for options in FM and an option in preferences to turn it on or off would have been a better idea.

There wouldn't be a debate on this if it had been made optional.

[Erimus1876]

Bit anti-climatic if it just runs through until the end no? At least you get to see the final whistle blown - plus as said above, makes those last second equaliser/winners/losers all the more dramatic!

Its anti-climatic anyway since you cut the final whistle scenes to two measly seconds.

I'm going to keep pestering you all summer and start a campaign for a better match day experience in FM14

[Rotterdam]

Yesterday I lost 0-1 thanks to a goal @ 93m20s (+3 extra time). So yeah, it does happen occasionaly. But I agree that unless something worthwhile happens, I don't need to see it. Same with players walking to the corner flag to take a corner (although this has improved compared to previous versions), or watching a red carded player casually walk off the pitch. I find myself constantly speeding up the game. But it's a minor annoyance I can live with.

[R.P. McMurphy]

I must thank you again SI. It is so ******* briliant to see these one second highligts in the end of every match.

[OxfordUnitedFC]

I must thank you again SI. It is so ******* briliant to see these one second highligts in the end of every match.

To be honest if it's a one second long highlight then its not exactly taking up a lot of your time is it.

[R.P. McMurphy]

To be honest if it's a one second long highlight then its not exactly taking up a lot of your time is it.

No it is not taking too much of my time but in FM12 highlights worked perfectly. This is a step backwards.

[FrazT]

I must thank you again SI. It is so ******* briliant to see these one second highligts in the end of every match.

Please watch your language on the forums-

[OxfordUnitedFC]

No it is not taking too much of my time but in FM12 highlights worked perfectly. This is a step backwards.

From reading the comments i'd say more people like it than don't.

[RocheBag]

In fm12 when a last minute highlight came up you knew there was a goal coming. This way you never know what's going to happen so when there is a goal it's a surprise. Much better this year.

[paul1224]

For me seeing the last few seconds is pointless unless something is going to happen like a goal, a good chance, etc as I play with extended.

Personally it's a waste of time.

[fosho]

It does add to the experience at the end of tight games, especially important ones (1-0, 2-1 etc) but there's no need to show it when your team is winning by two goals or more IMO.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Trust me. This feature is partly broken after last patch. There no no need for 4 seconds highlights and I dont think SI wanted it to be that way.

There no excitement when you can see from the clock if there is time for anything to happen. If you get 90+3 and highlight starts 92:56 you know that you will see couple passes and thats it.

[thegr8anand]

Not needed at all unless something is going to happen at that time.

[mbchuz]

Surely the whole point of selecting key highlights is so you don't have to sit through pointless highlights such as this?

I could understand seeing the closing seconds on extended highlights but not on key.

I couldn't agree with this more. I don't consider the final whistle a "key highlight" in a game, and I doubt many people do. I understand what SI were trying to do with it, I really do, but ultimately it's more predictable and annoying than it is exciting and dramatic. We're better off without it.

...but really this is probably one of those perfect little subjective experiences that can be easily tailored to every single user's personal preference with a simple check box in the settings. That way everyone's happy:

"Show final moments of match in key highlights view: X"

[Mackus]

I don't mind seeing the last 30 seconds of the match, but there's absolutely no need to show me the end of the first half and the start of each half for 30 seconds. Just show me the kick off and then cut it instantly if nothing is going to happen.

On a similar subject - although it's much better than FM 2012 and earlier, there's still way too much completely useless stuff being shown in extended and comprehensive highlights. Why do I ever have to see a player walking up to the ref or picking the ball up for a throw in etc? Just cut straight to the relevant point please. And why on earth doesn't the game show me half the fouls leading to free kicks in dangerous areas on comprehensive? Having highlights start with the opposing team taking a free kick straight from the edge of the box without seeing the passage of play leading up to it frustrates the hell out of me.

I agree with all of this.

Showing a wasted long ball in the first 30 seconds of a half is a waste.

[mexamoxa]

I think highlights should only be shown when relevant. There shouldn't be any highlights at kick-off, before half-time, 2nd half kick-off and at the end if nothing is happening, just give us the text like it is on "only commentary".

If someone is on "extended" or "comprehensive" i kind of understand although I don't agree. But if I set "key" only there is just no reason to show those "meaningless" highlights...!

[postal postie]

highlights like kick-off and just before halftime and full time are important to book-end the halves. i certainly wouldn't want the first half to end at 34 minutes because there were no more highlights. i want to hear the halftime whistle go and if that means having a highlight near the end so that we get that, then that should be how it is.

its the same for the full time whistle.

[Äktsjon Männ]

highlights like kick-off and just before halftime and full time are important to book-end the halves. i certainly wouldn't want the first half to end at 34 minutes because there were no more highlights. i want to hear the halftime whistle go and if that means having a highlight near the end so that we get that, then that should be how it is.

its the same for the full time whistle.

It doesn't have to be 30 seconds of nothingness though, certainly for the start of the game/second half. Show the kick off, yes, but if it's going to come to nothing just cut it right after.