Klyemann Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 In my first season in Serie A I finished 13th. However, when I look at financial report for last season I see a total of ~800k € of TV money and only 10k € of prize money. Has anyone else have this happen to them? Is this a bug, or do you get that money later (I'm in mid July now)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 TV money is paid out at a monthly basis. There's no prize money in Seria A only the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyemann Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 TV money is paid out at a monthly basis. There's no prize money in Seria A only the cup. Are you sure? I don't know about FM13, but in FM12 I'm sure you got some TV rights payout at the end of the season (collective contract, divided among clubs). Also, in Serie B I got 2.8 million € for finishing 2nd, so it seem very odd not to get any prize money in Serie B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikker Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Yes, I'm sure. I've played several seasons in Seria A - there's no prize money. Haven't played in Seria B so don't know about prize money there. Are suddenly in doubt, though, whether TV money is paid out on a monthly or weekly basis... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Fandel Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You can check the prize money in the Serie A rules tab, I'm pretty sure as Sikker says itll be negligible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I seem to recall that the Serie A TV deal is a rather complicated affair that has different criteria to determine who gets what from the pool of funds, I believe the minimum payment for each club is about €15m & then additional payments are based upon league placement in past seasons, number of supporters & the population within a defined catchment area. It's even more complex than I imagined, can see how the distribution of TV money in Serie A could easily get screwed up in FM. http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/tv-revenue-distribution-–-comparing-italian-and-english-models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyemann Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 So, it looks like it's a bug... 800k of TV revenue is A LOT less than 15 mio. This sucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It does look like the TV deal income could be broken, I've just added a manager to a side being promoted from Serie B & they have only been given £8m as their share of the TV money. Time to test & log another bug. There is definitely something wrong, just progressed to the 2013/14 season update point & the TV income for the 20 Serie A clubs comes in a £631.43m, based on the above link this should be the total domestic TV income as there are no payments made based on the league finish at the end of the season & if that is the case then assuming the figures are correct Serie A TV income drops by almost £128m after just 1 season. Individual income for 2013/14 season based on TV deal news item after season update, teams in bold are the sides promoted from Serie B [TABLE=width: 137] [TR] [TD]Juventus[/TD] [TD=align: right]69.03[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Inter[/TD] [TD=align: right]55.24[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]AC Milan[/TD] [TD=align: right]50.75[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Napoli[/TD] [TD=align: right]49.05[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Roma[/TD] [TD=align: right]48.13[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fiorentina[/TD] [TD=align: right]42.49[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cagliari[/TD] [TD=align: right]36.35[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Palermo[/TD] [TD=align: right]34.95[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lazio[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Udinese[/TD] [TD=align: right]31.07[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Genoa[/TD] [TD=align: right]27.97[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Parma[/TD] [TD=align: right]27.41[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chievo[/TD] [TD=align: right]25.83[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sampdoria[/TD] [TD=align: right]24.89[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Atalanta[/TD] [TD=align: right]20.86[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Torino[/TD] [TD=align: right]18.88[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Siena[/TD] [TD=align: right]14.83[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Empoli[/TD] [TD=align: right]12.87[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sassuolo[/TD] [TD=align: right]5.21[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Spezia[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.62[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 2014/15 TV income table, total paid out is now £623.81m. I'm fairly confident that either the research data is incorrect (based on the tax debacle that is distinctly possible) or the calculation for dividing up the TV income has a coding error, of course it could be a combination of both. [TABLE=width: 137] [TR] [TD]Juventus[/TD] [TD=align: right]72.98[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Inter[/TD] [TD=align: right]52.67[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Napoli[/TD] [TD=align: right]50.1[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]AC Milan[/TD] [TD=align: right]47.62[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Roma[/TD] [TD=align: right]43.12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Palermo[/TD] [TD=align: right]38.44[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fiorentina[/TD] [TD=align: right]36.57[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Parma[/TD] [TD=align: right]30.37[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cagliari[/TD] [TD=align: right]29.52[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sampdoria[/TD] [TD=align: right]29.32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lazio[/TD] [TD=align: right]28.48[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Udinese[/TD] [TD=align: right]27.94[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chievo[/TD] [TD=align: right]26.37[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Atalanta[/TD] [TD=align: right]23.8[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Genoa[/TD] [TD=align: right]22.42[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Torino[/TD] [TD=align: right]15.82[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Catania[/TD] [TD=align: right]14.85[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Siena[/TD] [TD=align: right]11.78[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Novara[/TD] [TD=align: right]11.34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Verona[/TD] [TD=align: right]10.3[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyemann Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Great work Barside! I checked again when I got home, and it turnes out I misread the Income page... I only got 180k in TV Revenue (the 800k was season tickets, wich is one row above). This is a game breaking bug for me as I am really struggling financialy... I'm surprised noone noticed it before :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Yep, have got San Marino into Serie A in my game and I'm receiving nothing. Completely ruined my game tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Both myself & the OP of this thread raised the issue in the bugs & data issues forum, hopefully the problem will get sorted for FM14. Maybe a new head researcher or some assistants as the current HR does appear to be struggling with collating all the data required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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