CurlyKev Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have tried several times to create my own tactics but cant seem to create one that works consistently and its very random. I may get a run of say 6 games without a defeat and lose 3-0 out of the blue!! I am also sick of conceeding late goals. Basically I am looking for any tips and advice on how to get a more consistent tactics without downloading one someone else has created. Hope You can help, Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luizinho Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have tried several times to create my own tactics but cant seem to create one that works consistently and its very random. I may get a run of say 6 games without a defeat and lose 3-0 out of the blue!! I am also sick of conceeding late goals. Basically I am looking for any tips and advice on how to get a more consistent tactics without downloading one someone else has created.Hope You can help, Kev what team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It really does depend on your team and system. However i have a couple of articles that may help. This first one may help you during matches themselves. Clearly this is something that may help you when you are 1-0 down and need to maybe consolidate til later on in the game. If you are playing 4-4-2, this may give you a better understanding of where you can maybe improve. This may help you as you may need more than one tactic and this can help you with your match preperation which can have a huge affect on how your team performing when changing strategy. We also have Football Manager's Best Tactics series. Hope these help, if you give me some more detail i may be able to help further! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyKev Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Thanks, these articles are great! Edit: do you have many more articles and tips comming out soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 i actually are struggling too, BUT i read http://www.mypassion4footballmanager.com/2013/01/football-manager-2013-tactics-guide-to-opposition-instructions-example-on-eliminate-specific-threats.html, adn started to do way better, also i read from cleon i think,that at the end,when they start to chase a goal it could help to actually change to control instead of counter or defensive strategies, to prevent to much pressuer, it works good for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Firstly i agree, control is a great idea and thats what i use when i am winning personally as otherwise i sit far to deep and invite the opposition on to me. Replying to Kev yes we have a fair few new pieces out at the moment. I will give you a few links for you. Youth Development Hints and Tips, Ideal squad size in FM, Wonderkids Shortlist, Loyalty Bonus's and Agents Fee's. Give them a read Kev they should all help you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Linking to the odd article every now and again is fine, but when someone posts many links especially when they aren't anything to do with tactics or training its taking the biscuit . Linking to sites is actually against the rules unless the article is on here too. However we like to be a bit more relaxed in here when possible but excessive over doing it will result in the links been removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 No worries Cleon, lesson learnt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Shameless advertising his own blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Shameless advertising his own blog No idea what your on about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniclesofal Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I've been in your position and I feel like I'm starting to emerge from the gloom. My number one tip is look to exploit space - I always look at the opponent's formation before-hand and see what my 4-1-2-2-1 formation can exploit - if I'm playing against a 4-4-2, I have a numerical advantage in the centre, so I use the shout 'exploit the middle'. If I'm playing against a more narrow formation, I use 'exploit the flanks'. I also always have the opponent's formation on the screen during games to adapt to any changes they make - it's especially useful if they go down to 10 men so you can exploit gaps they have to leave when compensating for losing a man. Other than that I'd just advise you to read articles around the internet (there are LOADS) and play to your team's strengths. Good luck! Oh, and one more thing: use the Tactic Creator and keep it simple. Always have a reason for your choices in mentality, philosophy, roles etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I've been in your position and I feel like I'm starting to emerge from the gloom. My number one tip is look to exploit space - I always look at the opponent's formation before-hand and see what my 4-1-2-2-1 formation can exploit - if I'm playing against a 4-4-2, I have a numerical advantage in the centre, so I use the shout 'exploit the middle'. If I'm playing against a more narrow formation, I use 'exploit the flanks'. I also always have the opponent's formation on the screen during games to adapt to any changes they make - it's especially useful if they go down to 10 men so you can exploit gaps they have to leave when compensating for losing a man. Other than that I'd just advise you to read articles around the internet (there are LOADS) and play to your team's strengths. Good luck!Oh, and one more thing: use the Tactic Creator and keep it simple. Always have a reason for your choices in mentality, philosophy, roles etc. The only issue i have with this is do you not find when you are chopping and changing quite a lot your match preperation becomes pointless and the team always struggle as they aren't used to it, or are you just making very minor changes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyKev Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Firstly i agree, control is a great idea and thats what i use when i am winning personally as otherwise i sit far to deep and invite the opposition on to me.Replying to Kev yes we have a fair few new pieces out at the moment. I will give you a few links for you. Youth Development Hints and Tips, Ideal squad size in FM, Wonderkids Shortlist, Loyalty Bonus's and Agents Fee's. Give them a read Kev they should all help you! Thank you very much, very good reads and have now subscribed too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyKev Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 My result have improved so much from advice here guys, especially at White Rose's site. I have gone on a 21 game unbeaten run, best run I have had on FM13. There is an article on that site called Tactical Situations that I have learnt alot from. Cheers guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 i think what chroniclesofal ment is that he doesn't change his formation but his approach to the game. formation is always the same (apart the strategies maybe?...) but he changes the way his team plays based on opposition.in above example (against 442) he gives the play through the middle shout to exploit that part of pitch while leaving the formation as is. I agree, shouts are something we alll need to make for more use of so i agree with his principal. However i just think if you follow a different pattern every game surely it will be completely new to a team, so even with shouts you need to keep some continuity? I might be wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 now that you have mentioned it, you might have a point as game might see any change to the default setup you are training as something new and something that needs adaptation. that's quite annoying as it doesn't work like that in real world. on the other hand, even if it is so, i believe the team should learn it quite fast if you use it reasonably often. i have to say i use shouts quite a lot and whenever i check my tactics it still says it is fully fluid no matter what shouts i give. Now that would be a great idea for future versions wouldn't it, that your team needs to learn system but if you use it in game you would actually be learning it as you go along, and it has an affect on how the team performs within that tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniclesofal Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree, shouts are something we alll need to make for more use of so i agree with his principal. However i just think if you follow a different pattern every game surely it will be completely new to a team, so even with shouts you need to keep some continuity? I might be wrong! The tactic is the same every game more or less, I just tweak which areas I look to play in most - it doesn't change much of the basics of the team. Glad to see you're having better results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rose Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 The tactic is the same every game more or less, I just tweak which areas I look to play in most - it doesn't change much of the basics of the team. Glad to see you're having better results! I am, what do you base your shouts on though? What your scouts see's or what you see in game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyKev Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 My new tactics are much better now thanks to the hints and tips at Football Manager Academy and few other ideas here but . . . . I am now having a few probems understanding when to play a higher tempo and what sort of players or formation or both should i use if i did ??? I dont get the pressing option, why would you wnat to stand off ??? Just a few issues. Hope you can help Thanks, Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelBrown Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 My new tactics are much better now thanks to the hints and tips at Football Manager Academy and few other ideas here but . . . . I am now having a few probems understanding when to play a higher tempo and what sort of players or formation or both should i use if i did ??? I dont get the pressing option, why would you wnat to stand off ???Just a few issues. Hope you can help Thanks, Kev If you press, say, against a really good team, the attacking players could find a way through with passes that unlock the defense. If you stand off, theoretically, you can stay compact and tight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm all for these forums linking to good content, but this thread is a blatant attempt by two owners of a site (CurlyKev and White Rose) to direct traffic to their articles. Not cool, guys. Consider this a warning. Next time, it will be infractions and a chat to Bertie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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