[FM14] My Try With Inter Milan

[janeka]

Hello everyone!

First of all, sorry for my english, because it's not very good

Introduction

I decided, for the first time, create a thread asking for your help, and decided to go with Inter. I played every FM/CM since CM 01/02, but I never really care about the tactical part of the game, because what I liked the most was to buy young players, and turn them into superstars. But the years passed, I grown up and start to want learn more about the tatical part of the game. In FM 2013 I was able to create a good 4231 with Tottenham, but always failed miserably with weaker teams. So enough of pointless talk and let's start this thread.

Part 1: Report - Comparison

After setting up trainings and took a look at the players, based on wwfan thread, Twelve Step Guide, went to see the Comparison Report.

All Positions

Well, about this section, we can see that where we are worst are in Passing and First Touch. Looking at my first eleven, we aren't that bad, specially the midfield

Defence

Our defence in the air is really bad, I need to buy someone more complete, but it's not gonna be this season

Midfield

Maybe this is the best sector of our team, despite lacking in Creativity and Technique

Attack

Here, we are not the best, but we are good enough.

I don't really pay attetion to this report, but decided to post it so you guys can check it.

Part 2: Tactic

This is what I came up with, after take a close look at te players. I never used this formation before, and I don't know if this gonna be definitive, but for now this is how we set up.

This is the part I really struggle. Mentality is my boogey man. I don't want to paly to attacking neither to defensive. Gonna start the games like this and change based on what is happening. I choosed Fluid, because I only have two Specialist Roles , and I like them to play as one.

About Instructions, I don't wanna to complicate things so for now this are the only options. Why those? So my way of thinking is to recover the ball high up on the pitch, so the opponent doesn't have time to think. Get Stuck In, because we are the best Tackling team in the league, Hassle Opponents, because we are one of the bests on Stamina and Work Rate and Work Ball Into Box is self explanatory.

For now it's done. I was going to made a Part 3 about the players but the only changes I made was to set Defensive Wingers to Run Wide With Ball and to Stay Wider, so they can offer width to our play.

I hope you guys enjoy this thread and can help me in this subject that I really struggle. I don't know if I can make an update about the pre-season today, but tomorrow definitely will post something.

Cheers.

[19MiRkO91]

Being an Inter fan, I would move Campagnaro to DCR, to offer cover for Jonathan.

I wouldn't play such a deep formation (you have 5 men in your midfield), but take advantage of Inter's strengths (tackling, stamina, strength...). I think what Mazzarri IRL is doing is the right way to suit Inter's players. We don't really have a creative midfield, but we have experience in Cambiasso, great physical stats in Guarin and Taider and really good creativity in Alvarez (who often plays in midfield and then joins the attack). I know the game will say Kovacic's best position is AMC, but he really gave his best when he was played in midfield, coming deep to get the ball.

[janeka]

Being an Inter fan, I would move Campagnaro to DCR, to offer cover for Jonathan.

I wouldn't play such a deep formation (you have 5 men in your midfield), but take advantage of Inter's strengths (tackling, stamina, strength...). I think what Mazzarri IRL is doing is the right way to suit Inter's players. We don't really have a creative midfield, but we have experience in Cambiasso, great physical stats in Guarin and Taider and really good creativity in Alvarez (who often plays in midfield and then joins the attack). I know the game will say Kovacic's best position is AMC, but he really gave his best when he was played in midfield, coming deep to get the ball.

For now I am gonna stick with this. Campagnaro is my worst player, but finances aren't good right now to get a new one and Walter Samuel still injured. About midfielder, I haven't played a game yet, so I have to see what's happen in the field, maybe I could move the DMC's to MC's but I don't like the hole between midfield and defence. But maybe I will give it a try About Kovacic, I don't think I will take him from the MAC position, because he can become a real good player in that position, and he isn't very good at defending. What formation would you use?

[bababooey]

I just got through my first Serie A match with Inter (a nil nil draw)..

Here are my thoughts about starting a save with them...

Inter are structurally flawed because they're: old, in a lot of debt trouble, have a huge roster with way too many overpaid players, and a massive staff wage bill.

You have to cut the fat! Get rid of staff and players. Start building something fresh. Unfortunately you can't really do it so quickly so working with what you have is key.

Inter have a lot of ability but not a lot of stamina. I wouldn't want to play a fast tempo with them, for sure. Something more like control and shorter passing would be helpful.

I would suggest Inter be set up with 3 CB's 2 WB's or WM's, and the rest is up to you. I feel that Inter easily have enough quality out wide to utilize wingbacks / defensive wingers in a 3-5-2 / 3-6-1 type set up. These are just a few ideas but hopefully it helps a bit!

[PeterPistola]

Best way to use Inter is not not at all.

Milan fan !!!

[kazm]

I just got through my first Serie A match with Inter (a nil nil draw)..

Here are my thoughts about starting a save with them...

Inter are structurally flawed because they're: old, in a lot of debt trouble, have a huge roster with way too many overpaid players, and a massive staff wage bill.

You have to cut the fat! Get rid of staff and players. Start building something fresh. Unfortunately you can't really do it so quickly so working with what you have is key.

Inter have a lot of ability but not a lot of stamina. I wouldn't want to play a fast tempo with them, for sure. Something more like control and shorter passing would be helpful.

I would suggest Inter be set up with 3 CB's 2 WB's or WM's, and the rest is up to you. I feel that Inter easily have enough quality out wide to utilize wingbacks / defensive wingers in a 3-5-2 / 3-6-1 type set up. These are just a few ideas but hopefully it helps a bit!

You can easily get rid of Milito and Cambiasso first season.

[19MiRkO91]

Inter have a lot of ability but not a lot of stamina. I wouldn't want to play a fast tempo with them, for sure. Something more like control and shorter passing would be helpful.

Quite the opposite. You see Inter have a lot of stamina (1st), but no creativity in midfield (11th). You can't expect anyone to make a pass like Xavi or Iniesta. Try hassling opponents, hard tackling, having a high d-line so you will get the ball high up the pitch.

For example, the 1st match against Genoa was exactly how you want to play. Genoa were closing every space, playing a deep d-line and Inter could not find a way to score. Then, everything changed when Cambiasso, Alvarez and Kuzmanovic were subbed by Kovacic, Taider and Icardi. Inter could press higher up the pitch forcing Genoa's defenders to drop deeper and deeper until Inter scored.

The goal against Juventus is how I think Inter should play (both IRL and in the game). Alvarez stole a ball by closing down and tackling hard Chiellini and immediately counter-attacked Juventus, then offered to Icardi an amazing assist.

Generally, you can't expect any of Inter's midfielders to play a short tempo and slow passing, because it will be really hard to break down the opposition, since they have nobody to provide assists.

[19MiRkO91]

For now I am gonna stick with this. Campagnaro is my worst player, but finances aren't good right now to get a new one and Walter Samuel still injured. About midfielder, I haven't played a game yet, so I have to see what's happen in the field, maybe I could move the DMC's to MC's but I don't like the hole between midfield and defence. But maybe I will give it a try About Kovacic, I don't think I will take him from the MAC position, because he can become a real good player in that position, and he isn't very good at defending. What formation would you use?

I would play Cambiasso as DMC and Guarin-Kovacic as MC. Pay attention to Kovacic in that position. IRL he keeps the ball too much and often loses it. That's why I said he should have a lot of space to pick his passes.

[janeka]

I just got through my first Serie A match with Inter (a nil nil draw)..

Inter are structurally flawed because they're: old, in a lot of debt trouble, have a huge roster with way too many overpaid players, and a massive staff wage bill.

You have to cut the fat! Get rid of staff and players. Start building something fresh. Unfortunately you can't really do it so quickly so working with what you have is key.

Inter have a lot of ability but not a lot of stamina. I wouldn't want to play a fast tempo with them, for sure. Something more like control and shorter passing would be helpful.

I would suggest Inter be set up with 3 CB's 2 WB's or WM's, and the rest is up to you. I feel that Inter easily have enough quality out wide to utilize wingbacks / defensive wingers in a 3-5-2 / 3-6-1 type set up. These are just a few ideas but hopefully it helps a bit!

I get rid almost of every staff member to get better ones.

Inter is the best team in the league in terms of stamina and they lack a litle in ability. About how I will play I don't know because normaly I screw things up when I change to much.

My set up employs Defensive Wingers.

Best way to use Inter is not not at all.

Milan fan !!!

Barcelona fan!!!

You can easily get rid of Milito and Cambiasso first season.

I think Milito can make a great season. He is a complete striker and I like that. About Cambiasso, I will give him a chance but next season I will certainly sell him.

I would play Cambiasso as DMC and Guarin-Kovacic as MC. Pay attention to Kovacic in that position. IRL he keeps the ball too much and often loses it. That's why I said he should have a lot of space to pick his passes.

First I thought of that but decided to try something new. Maybe next season

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Almost got pre-season complete, and some changes have been made. The ME right know is so painfull to watch, especially the defensive part of the game.

[PeterPistola]

^^^^^

Glory hunter........ Gold digger.

[janeka]

^^^^^

Glory hunter........ Gold digger.

Nop, my favorite club since I was 5

[kazm]

Milito and Cambiasso are definately great players, but 15million Euro (probably more with bonus' etc) is money you don't want to spend on only 2 players of their age. First season you still get some money for them and can reduce your wages by about 10-11 million Euro so I'd probably do it.

If you don't sell them I'm pretty sure I read somewhere you can get Cambiasso to sign a contract for a lower fee.

[PeterPistola]

Nop, my favorite club since I was 5

2005. Nice one gold digger.

[Cleon]

Can we keep the none relevant stuff out of the thread please. This is the tactics and training forum not the handbag forum

[janeka]

Milito and Cambiasso are definately great players, but 15million Euro (probably more with bonus' etc) is money you don't want to spend on only 2 players of their age. First season you still get some money for them and can reduce your wages by about 10-11 million Euro so I'd probably do it.

If you don't sell them I'm pretty sure I read somewhere you can get Cambiasso to sign a contract for a lower fee.

I already finished pre-season, so I ain't gonna sell them. They're contract finish in 2014 so they will leave at the end of the season. I am not interested of making this a long save so I don't really care about the finances. But thanks for the suggestion

[janeka]

Part 3: First Changes

Pre-Season done, and some changes was made. Here are the results from pre-season:

I decided to schedule some friendlies agains't teams a litle bit inferior (except Alzano and Curno, who are very very weak teams) to us. It wasn't a great pre-season but I was able to see some things that needed changes.

Changes List:

• DMC's moved to MC's (MC - Defend and DLP - Support). The reason why, is the three upfront was to separated from the rest of the team. The DMC's just stay to defensive, didn't offer the support I wanted. I changed them to DM - S, but I didn't liked to;
  
• Removed the instructios from the Defensive Wingers, because they just ran to the by-line and just stand still until got disarmed by the defender. The AMC's didn't offered support to them, just like I wanted;
  
• I set my DLF to Move Into Channels(I want him to drag the defender with him or find space for himself) and Pass It Shorter(I just what him to deliver the ball to the AMC's and then run so he can receive a through ball);
  
• Added Push Higher Up instruction. There's a big hole between defence and midfield, so tho cover that hole I think pushing the defence a litle higher will fix the problem;
  

Those are the changes I've made so far. Please tell me guys if make's sense

First Game: vs Fiorentina (Away)

Our first game for Serie A. A tough game. I decide to start the game with Standard mentality. At half-time the result was 0-0. Roncaglia should have been sent-off because a tackle he made to Guarin when he was running free to the goal (he got injured).

Our Average Positions at half-time

I decided to check the two CCC of Fiorentina, and noticed that in this two times their MR/L just appeared alone, with no one marking or pressing them, so put my DW to mark them and he makes so much diference in second half. Ah, Fiorentina was playing 352 formation. The game end-up with us winning by 2-0. What is not good is that the goals came from set pieces, but we had opportunities to score from open play too.

Looking at the stats, I can see that I have to watch out my defence passes, because is to low. The good thing is that we made 17 shots and only 4 was from long range.

Some Attacking Movements

1. The defender had to move out from his position, because Kovacic was alone;
   
2. The space lefted by the defender, is taken by Belfodil;
   
3. Kovacic then, plays a through ball to Belfodil, who in front of the keeper, misses the target;
   

Here, again, the play is almost the same, only in our midfield, after Cambiasso recovered the ball, passed it to Kuzmanovic, who passed it to Kovacic, that see's Milito alone and plays a through ball to him, that have very space to run behind Fiorentina defence, and again my striker misses it.

I think, all this moves from the striker, is because of his instruction Move Into Channels. Am I right? Because this exactly what I want.

For today it's done. Sorry if the text is to boring but I am not a great writer

[19MiRkO91]

I think Move into channels only changes the type of movement the player will be doing. I would pay attention to how many shots you had vs how many were on target. The low percentage of passes of defence might be due to your DLP not coming too deep (did you set Kuzmanovic to DLP?).

[janeka]

I think Move into channels only changes the type of movement the player will be doing. I would pay attention to how many shots you had vs how many were on target. The low percentage of passes of defence might be due to your DLP not coming too deep (did you set Kuzmanovic to DLP?).

All the shots was in good position, but players just miss it. And I know whay defence have such a low pass ratio. Is because game counts all the balls that are cleared away as pass, because if that doens't counted all my defenders could have at least 85+ completation ratio. And yes Kuzmanovic is set to DLP - S, but I think this year this role is a bit more attacking than in the other versions. I think of changing Fluid to Balance.

[kazm]

Hm Belfodil couldn't hit a barn when I played Inter either lol ^^.

[janeka]

Hm Belfodil couldn't hit a barn when I played Inter either lol ^^.

He scored and assisted against Cagliari I hope he continues