The Manchester United thread 2006/2007 - featuring BBB leaving early

[Saha]

If Javier ever logged on to OTF he'd be amazed at the amount of times people butcher his name on here

[BBB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alilaw:

I've had a text from an Everton lad I know who reckons Cahill to United is a 'done deal' at about £8 million. He's a bit hit and miss about these things (seemed fairly clued up on the Rooney issue but also told me that Roy Keane would be joining Everton as a coach) so we'll have to see.

If it is true then it'd get a big 'Meh' from me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cahill ifffffffffffffffffb

[SarfLondonSpur]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rcjuk:

iirc, this takes away my pain </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

but...but...but...

[Saha]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20?:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James M:

Saviola for £4m would seem like a ridiculous bargain if we're selling Ruud :/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah. Not the type of player we need if we're going to properly replace him. Can't see him working with Rooney, would be an either/or kind of thing and Rooney wins. Would also impede Rossi's progress. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think he'd fit into the Premiership either tbh, and he's hardly been impressive at club level for ages.

[Nick OGS20]

Strange that Fletch is wearing 7 and yet Ole has his usual 20...

[alilaw]

Gahahaha. Back of the Sun says Fat Ronaldo wants to come to OT.

He'd be shyte.

[The_Fish]

interesting article on football365

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Who would have credited it a year ago? Ruud van Nistelrooy is actually leaving.

No more 'why the long face?' jokes. No more 'Mr Ed' lookalikes. And, more worryingly for that part of the population that owes its allegiance to Manchester United, no guaranteed bucketload of goals each season.

But Manchester United don't need to buy a a replacement striker. Or at least it shouldn't be their priority.

Despite Van Nistelrooy finishing (as usual) as their top scorer last season, no-one but Mrs Van Nistelrooy would claim that United played their best football with Ruud in the team. The demolition of Wigan in the Carling Cup final and the fluid football associated with it came with Wayne Rooney and Louis Saha up front, and that was how Sir Alex Ferguson chose to end the season.

The midfield, on the other hand, was overrun against the likes of Middlesbrough. Phil Neville - shipped unceremoniously off to Everton at the start of the season - would have walked into the team.

And that midfield has needed fixing for more than this year. Roy Keane's unceremonious departure from the club where he became a legend and Paul Scholes' season-ending injury just brought the problem - with apologies to Paul - into focus.

First of all, a battler is needed, and then some creativity should be added.

Gennaro Gattuso and Michael Ballack would have been the two signings that turned United into a title-winning team next year, but Ballack has joined Chelsea and Gattuso is staying in Milan. So where else can United look?

Firstly, they need to accept that they won't bring in two players of that quality, because there simply aren't another two players good enough. Certainly not available, anyway.

Patrick Vieira, despised by the Old Trafford faithful for so many years, is one option - and is very much available following Juventus' relegation from the Serie A - but would only be a short-term solution.

Further down the ladder Mahamadou Diarra is an option that has been repeatedly linked with a move to Old Trafford, but he would be a gamble - as all players who have only 'proved' themselves in the French league are. Let us not forget Eric Djemba-Djemba.

Closer to home, United are currently fighting for the signature of Michael Carrick, a player who has demonstrated his credentials at Tottenham and for England. For five or six million pounds his colleague on the England bench (until lately, at least) Owen Hargreaves could make his way to Old Trafford as well.

Carrick and Hargreaves are no Ballack and Makelele. They're no Gerrard and Alonso, for that matter. But they're certainly not O'Shea and Fletcher.

There's the rub. United finished second in the Premiership with Fletcher, Alan Smith, O'Shea and Ryan Giggs playing the majority of their games in central midfield. The addition of two solid central midfielders might not see them catch Chelsea, but it would see them stay ahead of their other rivals.

Obviously a world-class striker would be a nice addition to the squad, but United are not Chelsea. Budgetary conditions apply, and United's priority with their summer piggy-bank fund must be midfield.

Added to that is the fact that there just aren't many top quality strikers up for grabs. The World Cup was hardly goals-central. Would you stake a fortune on Luca Toni adapting to the Premiership? Do you think Cristiano Ronaldo's chubby namesake would cope with the pace?

United are hardly short in the striking department either. Rooney is the country's great hope. Saha, if he stays injury free, will score goals. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was a quality striker before his injuries and will hope to prove he still is. Smith can be moved back to the front once he's back in the side.

Then you look at the youth. Giuseppe Rossi has earned more praise from Ferguson than most young players, and is at an age where he needs to get on the pitch for the first team if he is to develop. Another player in the pecking order ahead of him would not help.

Of course, the problem is that a good, developing young player isn't enough for United. They need to be immediately brilliant. Prolonged success means the fans demand it - particularly the armchair fans and the glory supporters - and significant debts mean the owners demand it.

How those debts will affect the development of United's other bright young hope remains to be seen. Dong Fangzhuo joined the club more than two years ago, and will qualify for a European passport in December. Should he become a big name for United, the marketing potential in Asia would be incredible. No club are more commercially aware than United - it wasn't chance that saw Park Ji-Sung become the focus of their kit launch.

But while United's strikers are in better shape than the media would have you believe, there is little doubt that their midfield needs improving. And United fans can take comfort in the fact that Sir Alex Ferguson is not the kind of manager to bow to media pressure telling him he needs a striker.

After failed attempts with Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba and Liam Miller, Ferguson's pursuit of Carrick finally shows that he is willing to pay over the odds rather than take a gamble on an unknown quantity, and that can only be good news for his club.

So, United fans, why the long face? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's right too, Hargreaves and Carrick as a centre midfield partnership would give United a very strong side for next season

[Keyser]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wakeyrocket:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deanb291186:

Anyone coming FC vs AFC Wimbledon this Saturday? £7 in, think Mart said he might be, should be good craic with the Wombles and a top atmosphere </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rip off Sunday League sides are better & thats free </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

whs

[Mika]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> [1] Fergie on Rossi

Saturday, July 29, 2006

"We want to see Giuseppe progress as a centre-forward and it is looking more likely he will stay with us now." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Daaaaave]

in all seriousness, I don't see tevez working out for you guys. his game is actually quite like rooney's...the two of them play direct, attacking football causing havoc in defenses but you wouldn't have anyone in the box waiting to capitalise on it.

[ACou2000]

tbf at very first glance i thought it was BBB too...

I think it's your shape.. I mean if you do insist on remaining, a blob.. at least maybe get a tan?

[James07?]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

like Taz knows the numbers off by heart </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I made a list of current and all time top goalscorers and appearences for United at the start of pre season in excel. I was going to make a big excel book of facts and figures to do with the club that was easy to update through the season. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

cheat

[No Longer Bling]

silv

[ACou2000]

Giggs was very very good in that 2nd half.

Think maybe he deserves MoM.

MoM: Giggs

2nd: Ronaldo

imo

[DeafParrot]

The kids a Chelsea fan, he has no reason to hate United. Its not like they're rivals or anything?

Unlike us

[Coldberg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan Goodwin:

We'll probably put in a bid for Saviola now.

There is no source for that, just an opinion </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking that earlier when I saw he had rejected Villa. I mean he must be good if he can reject an offer from the team 2nd in the league, obviously holding out for the team at the summit \o/

[ACou2000]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

come to the wall you massive gayer </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

not with that attitude

look I've already told you I will when I come up for a game by myself.. but I'm just NOT taking my family to see you

or explaining why I drifted off and talked to a bunch of shifty looking beer-drinking louts sitting on a wall

SORRY

[Coldberg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gonch19:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coldberg:

The hairs stand up on the back of my neck everytme I walkout into the stands, such a nawesome feeling.

Then you get to see the crap we played for most of last season

Much better so far this season though </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

eh? we were pretty good last season. either of the previous 2 years before that you could have had though.

first game for me - charity shield 99 when we lost to arsenal 2-1. first game after the treble and as a young 16 year old i was absolutely hooked, the atmosphere was immense.

singing the jaap stam song to my 8 year old sister and getting told off for swearing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I went to Villareal home, Lille home, Sunderland home, WBA home. Basically all the games where we were dire Last season I remember the poor games more than the better ones.

Note that I said "most of last season" & not all of it.

[Mika]

ACou, we can get the anti-Arsenal youtube links out again after the Celtic game :*)

And on FM I've sold all but 14 players, destroyed my team and am mass buying another one

You're ass man is still fb.

You about later?

[Keyser]

Loved your text yesterday James

[Saha]

taz

his o'shea comment before the arsenal game worthy of getting it's own special spot in the hof

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

was that mark g who wanted rid of Ole?

along with Giggs who apparently is less valuable an asset than Richardson.

...sorry, but I'm never letting that go </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well if you're not going to let it go, at least remember what was said and in what context please

[Mika]

Other photos here.

[Nick OGS20]

oh aye, almost forgot:

1st Wazza, 2nd Vidic, honourable mentions to everyone else, best team performance for a long long long long long long long time, more please

[Ronaldo_1977]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coldberg:

yo uare saying Solskjaer is no good as backup. throughout his career at united he has proved he is about the best backup any team could ever want. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

best backup you could want when fit and young, i have my doubts at his age and with his track record of injures over the last 2-3 years.

[Razzler]

what is it? just invited for training or something ? "officially"

[theis]

haha I logged onto the internet to see that piece of news. My first reaction was OTF Man Utd thread as well.

[Pires777]

WILTOOOORRRRRDDD!!!

ADEBAYOOOORRRRRR!!!

EASTWOOOOODDDD!!!!!!!

Its one nil! its game over!

[snipersdream]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keyser:

Some people

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Vidic Should Know Better

Perhaps Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand would like to explain their "hilarious" rocket-launcher celebration to people living in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Palestine etc etc who live in constant fear of attack from rocket-propelled grenades or missiles or those who have lost love ones from such weapons in conflict and war? Or to members of the armed forces serving in some of these countries who are subject to attack and ambush from insurgents armed with "real" rocket launchers? The fact that Vidic was born in a country which had more than its fair share of the horrors of war in the not too distant past makes it all the more inappropriate. Idiots.

David Horgan

</div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ffs. I'm going to go ahead and assume this is from the Guardian.

[Razor Eddie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

Me

NickOGS0

Coldberg

Jamesohseven

alansmithifb

rcjuk

don't think i've forgotten anyone </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

just turned the branch down, too. Arse, feck, bastard christmas. Wants banning it does. Seriously.

[Weststandred]

Genuine question: Can anyone think of headed goals by Rooney for United?

I was just thinking about it and can't recall him scoring any with his head. Can anyone tell me any, there is probably loads but I can't think atm.

Tomorrow will be my 4th visit to Villa Park.

[Mika]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

Eboue wasnt down for THAT long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno...

[Pickles]

76,000 again tonight I reckon and we'll spank them 4-0.

The Serbanator will score too - Pickles' top tip!

[Mika]

More beef than an abatoir.

[alilaw]

Btw,

is beautifully random.

[Coldberg]

Just got back.

I think they showed a different game on the tv to the one we saw at Craven Cottage as apart from the goal Giggs was abysmal. This isn't just the view of the 5 of us who were together btw. Half the stand wanted him subbed for Park. He was terrible yet again but his goal will deflect all the criticism.

The constant long balls fro mdefence were poor today but if I am honestthere was no movement in midfield all game. Really only Larsson & Ronaldo seemed to be looking for the ball. Whenever Rooney got it he seemed intent on walking it into the net.

But yeah, today has actually got me properly believing now as we should have lost that game the way we played & we ended up fluking a win (after subbing off Vidic & bringing on O'Shiite & Silvestre I might add ). That's how titles are won. A draw at Liverpool & then a draw against Chelsea will do me just fine

[Asmodeus]

You were **** indeed- a Premiership winning performance if ever there was one.

[Nick OGS20]

The United Thread Stat-tacular 2006-7: APRES FULHAM

Appearances:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | 25 | 7 | | | 32 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 22 | 5 | 2 | | 29 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 18(2) | 3(2) | 2(1) | 0(1) | 23(6) |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 8(5) | 3(1) | 1 | 2 | 14(6) |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 27 | 5(1) | 2 | | 34(1) |

6. Wes BROWN | 9(4) | 3 | 2 | 2 | 16(4) |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 24(1) | 6 | 2 | 1 | 33(1) |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 24(1) | 7 | 1(1) | 1 | 33(2) |

9. Louis SAHA | 18(5) | 5(1) | 1 | | 24(6) |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 19(2) | 4 | 2 | | 25(2) |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 6(6) | | 3 | | 9(6) |

14. Alan SMITH | | 0(2) | | 2 | 2(2) |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 21 | 6 | 2 | | 29 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 20(3) | 7 | 3 | | 30(3) |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 4(2) | 1 | 2(1) | | 7(3) |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 22 | 6(1) | 1(1) | | 29(2) |

19. Giuseppe ROSSI | | | | | |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 6(6) | 1(3) | 2(1) | 1 | 10(10) |

21. DONG Fangzhuo | | | | | |

22. John O'SHEA | 10(13)| 3(3) | 0(1) | 1 | 14(17) |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 4(4) | 0(2) | | 2 | 6(6) |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 12(6) | 3(2) | 1(2) | 1 | 17(10) |

25. David JONES | | | | 2 | 2 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 6(7) | 2 | 1 | 2 | 11(7) |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | 3 | | 3 | 2 | 8 |

34. Ryan SHAWCROSS | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

36. David GRAY | | | | 1 | 1 |

41. Philip MARSH | | | | 1 | 1 |

42. Michael BARNES | | | | 0(1) | 0(1) |

49. Ritchie JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

</pre>

Goalscorers:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 16 | | | | 16 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 10 | | 2 | | 12 |

9. Louis SAHA | 8 | 4 | | | 12 |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 4 | 2 | | | 6 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 5 | 1 | | | 6 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 3 | 1 | | | 4 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 3 | | | | 3 |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 2 | | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | | 1 | | 2 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | | 1 | | 2 |

22. John O'SHEA | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 1 | | | | 1 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 1 | | | | 1 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | | 1 | | | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 1 | | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

Own Goals | 2 | | | | 2 |

| | | | | |

Totals | 65 | 11 | 5 | 2 | 83 |

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Penalties:

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9. Louis SAHA 3/4

7. Cristiano RONALDO 2/3

</pre>

Penalties won:

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7. Cristiano RONALDO 3

8. Wayne ROONEY 1

11. Ryan GIGGS 1

13. PARK Ji-Sung 1

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER 1

</pre>

Assists:

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8. Wayne ROONEY 11

7. Cristiano RONALDO 9

9. Louis SAHA 9

11. Ryan GIGGS 9

2. Gary NEVILLE 4

3. Patrice EVRA 4

16. Michael CARRICK 3

6. Wes BROWN 2

13. PARK Ji-Sung 2

18. Paul SCHOLES 2

24. Darren FLETCHER 2

4. Gabriel HEINZE 1

14. Alan SMITH 1

15. Nemanja VIDIC 1

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER 1

23. Kieran RICHARDSON 1

27. Mikael SILVESTRE 1

49. Ritchie JONES 1

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At Fault For Goal:

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27. Mikael SILVESTRE 4

2. Gary NEVILLE 3

4. Gabriel HEINZE 2

5. Rio FERDINAND 2

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR 1

3. Patrice EVRA 1

6. Wes BROWN 1

7. Cristiano RONALDO 1

13. PARK Ji-Sung 1

15. Nemanja VIDIC 1

16. Michael CARRICK 1

22. John O'SHEA 1

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Clean Sheets:

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Charlton away (EPL)

Tottenham home (EPL)

Benfica away (CL)

Newcastle home (EPL)

FC Kobenhavn home (CL)

Liverpool home (EPL)

Bolton away (EPL)

Portsmouth home (EPL)

Blackburn away (EPL)

Everton home (EPL)

Aston Villa away (EPL)

Watford home (EPL)

Tottenham away (EPL)

Charlton home (EPL)

Lille away (CL)

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Yellow Cards:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 7 | 1 | 1 | | 9 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 7 | 2 | | | 9 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 4 | 2 | | | 6 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 4 | 1 | | 1 | 6 |

6. Wes BROWN | 2 | | | 1 | 3 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 3 | | | | 3 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 2 | | | 1 | 3 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 2 | | | | 2 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

22. John O'SHEA | 2 | | | | 2 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 1 | | | | 1 |

9. Louis SAHA | 1 | | | | 1 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | | | | 1 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | | 1 | | | 1 |

25. David JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | | 1 | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

</pre>

Average Goals Per Game: 2.8 (112 in 40)

Average Goals Scored Per Game: 2.08 (83 in 40)

Average Goals Conceded Per Game: 0.72 (29 in 40)

Games Won When Scoring First Goal: 25/28 (89.29%)

Games Drawn When Scoring First Goal: 2/28 (7.14%)

Games Lost When Scoring First Goal: 1/28 (3.57%)

Games Won When Conceding First Goal: 5/12 (41.67%)

Games Drawn When Conceding First Goal: 2/12 (16.66%)

Games Lost When Conceding First Goal: 5/12 (41.67%)

Games Won When Leading At Half-Time: 15/17 (88.24%)

Games Drawn When Leading At Half-Time: 2/17 (11.76%)

Games Lost When Leading At Half-Time: 0/17

Games Won When Drawing At Half-Time: 14/21 (66.67%)

Games Drawn When Drawing At Half-Time: 2/21 (9.52%)

Games Lost When Drawing At Half-Time: 5/21 (23.81%)

Games Won When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Games Drawn When Losing At Half-Time: 0/2

Games Lost When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Time of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 10 | | | | 10 |

15 - 30 mins | 8 | | | 1 | 9 |

30 - 45 mins | 9 | 4 | 1 | | 14 |

45 - 60 mins | 12 | 3 | 1 | | 16 |

60 - 75 mins | 15 | 2 | | | 17 |

75 - 90 mins | 13 | 2 | 1 | | 16 |

Extra Time | | | | 1 | 1 |

</pre>

Time of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 2 | | | | 2 |

15 - 30 mins | 1 | 2 | | 1 | 4 |

30 - 45 mins | 4 | 1 | | | 5 |

45 - 60 mins | 2 | | | | 2 |

60 - 75 mins | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 9 |

75 - 90 mins | 5 | 1 | | | 6 |

Extra Time | | | | | |

</pre>

Manner of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 13 | 6 | | | 19 |

Right foot | 41 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 47 |

Head | 12 | 3 | | | 15 |

Opponent | 2 | | | | 2 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 58 | 8 | 2 | 1 | 69 |

Outside area | 9 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 14 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 57 | 6 | 3 | 2 | 68 |

Set piece | 5 | 3 | | | 8 |

Direct freekick | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

Penalty | 4 | 1 | | | 5 |

</pre>

Manner of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 6 | 4 | | | 10 |

Right foot | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 13 |

Head | 4 | | 1 | | 5 |

United player | 1 | | | | 1 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 15 | 2 | 2 | | 19 |

Outside area | 5 | 3 | | 2 | 10 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 15 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 20 |

Set piece | 2 | | 1 | | 3 |

Direct freekick | 1 | 2 | | 1 | 4 |

Penalty | 2 | | | | 2 |

</pre>

Form

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Last Six (All comps): WWWDWW

Last Six (Prem/ship): WLWWWW

Home (All comps): WWWWWD

Home (Prem/ship): WWWWWW

Away (All comps): WDLWWW

Away (Prem/ship): LWDLWW

Games Unbeaten: 7 (all comps), 4 (premiership)

Consecutive Wins: 2 (all comps), 4 (premiership)

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Attendances:

Highest - 76,073, vs Aston Villa (Premiership, 13/01/07)

Lowest - 70,608, vs Reading (FA Cup, 17/02/07)

Total - 1,498,779 (20 games)

Average - 74,939

Part-Timer Watch:

Sevilla home - BBB left early, missed two goals

Portsmouth home - BBB flogged his ticket to feed his chocolate habit

Dubiously-legal female charity collectors ogled from the wall:

Ten

Delicacies enjoyed at the wall:

Beer

Pork pies

<STRIKE>Cheesecake</STRIKE>

Jammy dodgers

Forthcoming Fixtures

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27.02.07 Reading (A) FA Cup Fifth Round Replay

03.03.07 Liverpool (A) Premiership

06.03.07 Lille OSC Métropole (H) Champions League R16 2nd Leg

17.03.07 Bolton Wanderers (H) Premiership

31.03.07 Blackburn Rovers (H) Premiership

07.04.07 Portsmouth (A) Premiership

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CAREER STATS

Appearances:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Other | Total |

| | | | | | |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 437(58)| 99(6) | 49(7) | 25(5) | 12(1) | 622(77) |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 347(15)| 99(6) | 40(3) | 16(1) | 8(1) | 510(26) |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 299(64)| 87(12)| 24(10)| 11(5) | 10 | 431(91) |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 148(80)| 35(44)| 13(13)| 8(3) | 6(3) | 211(143)|

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 222(23)| 59(7) | 18(2) | 13(1) | 7 | 319(33) |

6. Wes BROWN | 133(20)| 37(6) | 21(2) | 16(1) | | 207(29) |

22. John O'SHEA | 122(32)| 33(11)| 12(2) | 17(1) | 1(1) | 185(47) |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 142(1) | 35(1) | 11(1) | 9(1) | 1 | 198(4) |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 88(32)| 24(3) | 14(2) | 8 | | 134(37) |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 70(15)| 18(7) | 8(9) | 10 | 0(1) | 106(29) |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 82(8) | 18 | 9(2) | 5(2) | | 114(12) |

9. Louis SAHA | 46(22)| 6(6) | 4(3) | 9 | | 65(31) |

14. Alan SMITH | 37(15)| 10(5) | 0(5) | 4(2) | 1 | 52(27) |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | 63 | 15 | 2 | 3 | | 83 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 36(7) | 12(1) | 5 | 4 | | 57(8) |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 16(18)| 5(9) | 6(1) | 11(2) | 0(1) | 38(31) |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 29(17)| 0(6) | 4(1) | 3 | | 36(24) |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 30(2) | 6 | 4 | 0(2) | | 40(4) |

3. Patrice EVRA | 25(6) | 3(2) | 2(2) | 1(2) | | 31(12) |

16. Michael CARRICK | 20(3) | 7 | 3 | | | 30(3) |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | 3 | | 3 | 2 | | 8 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 4(2) | 1 | 2(1) | | | 7(3) |

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Goals:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Other | Total |

| | | | | | |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 98 | 25 | 10 | 7 | | 140 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 94 | 22 | 12 | 8 | | 136 |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 90 | 20 | 7 | 7 | | 124 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 37 | 4 | 5 | 2 | | 48 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 34 | 1 | 6 | 2 | | 43 |

9. Louis SAHA | 23 | 4 | 2 | 7 | | 36 |

14. Alan SMITH | 7 | 2 | | 1 | 1 | 11 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 6 | 2 | 1 | | 1 | 10 |

22. John O'SHEA | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 9 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | | 9 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 5 | 2 | | | | 7 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 7 | | | | | 7 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 4 | | | | | 4 |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 2 | | | 1 | | 4 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 3 | 1 | | | | 4 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 1 | 2 | | | | 3 |

6. Wes BROWN | 1 | 1 | | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | | 1 | | | 2 |

17. Henrik LARSSON | 1 | | 1 | | | 2 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 1 | | | | | 1 |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | | | | | | 0 |

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Potential Milestones:

* Ryan GIGGS needs one more appearance to reach 700 for the club in all competitions, and five more to reach 500 in the Premiership

* If Ryan GIGGS starts against Reading, he will be making his 50th FA Cup start

* Both Ryan GIGGS and Gary NEVILLE are one start away from 100 European starts

* Gary NEVILLE is three away from 350 Premiership starts

* Paul SCHOLES is one away from 300 Premiership starts

* If Paul SCHOLES plays in the return leg with Lille, he will be making his 100th appearance in European competition

* Ole SOLSKJAER is two away from 150 Premiership starts

* Rio FERDINAND's is two away from 200 United starts

* PARK Ji-Sung is four away from 50 Premiership appearances

* Mikael SILVESTRE is five away from 250 Premiership appearances

* Louis SAHA is four away from 100 United appearances

* Ryan GIGGS is two away from 100 Premiership goals. Paul SCHOLES is six away from the same landmark, and Ole SOLSKJAER ten.

* Wayne ROONEY is two away from 50 United goals. Cristiano RONALDO is seven away from the same landmark.

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Reserves Update

Appearances (FAPRL, MSC & LAC): Kieran Lee 16, Michael Lea 11(1), Tom Heaton 11, Daniel Rose 11, Michael Barnes 10(4), Aaron Burns 10(3), Jamie Mullan 10(2), Ryan Shawcross 10, Ritchie Jones 9, Philip Marsh 8(3), Craig Cathcart 8(2), Alan Smith 8, Séan Evans 7(2), David Gray 7(1), David Jones 6, Christopher Eagles 5, Sam Hewson 4(1), Dong Fangzhuo 4, Tomasz Kuszczak 4, Floribert N'Galula 4, Kieran Richardson 2, Lee Crockett 1(1), Wes Brown 1, James Chester 1, Thomas Cleverley 1, Richard Eckersley 1, Darren Fletcher 1, Liam Miller 1, Ji-Sung Park 1, Giuseppe Rossi 1, Mikael Silvestre 1, Danny Simpson 1, Febian Brandy (5), Christy Fagan (3), Daniel Drinkwater (1), Magnus Wolff Eikrem (1)

Scorers: Burns 7, Marsh 7, Barnes 3, Brandy 2, Rossi 2, Eagles 1, S Evans 1, Gray 1, D Jones 1, Lea 1, Lee 1, Richardson 1, Rose 1, Shawcross 1, Smith 1, own goals 1 (Webster, Wigan)

Premier Reserve League North Table:

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P W D L F A GD Pts

1. M'boro Res 11 7 2 2 25 16 +9 23

2. Man Utd Res 10 5 3 2 16 8 +8 18

3. Man City Res 11 5 2 4 20 14 +6 17

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Next Fixture:

22.02.07 Middlesbrough (H) - FAPRLN, @ Ewen Fields, Hyde

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Academy Update

Appearances (Academy and FAYC): Christy Fagan 22(1), James Chester 22, Febian Brandy 20(1), Daniel Drinkwater 17(4), Benjamin Amos 17, Richard Eckersley 17, Sam Hewson 16(1), James Derbyshire 15(3), Craig Cathcart 15, Magnus Wolff Eikrem 12(2), Daniel Welbeck 11(9), Daniel Galbraith 11(2), Thomas Cleverley 11(1), Antonio Bryan 10(9), Conor McCormack 10(4), Corry Evans 6(6), Ron-Robert Zieler 6(1), Michael Lea 6, Kenny Strickland 5(1), Nicky Ajose 1(2), Oliver Norwood 1(2), Joseph Dudgeon 1, Scott Moffatt 1, Matthew James (3)

Scorers: Brandy 13, Fagan 7, Welbeck 6, Hewson 6, Bryan 2, Cathcart 2, Drinkwater 2, Ajose 1, Chester 1, Eikrem 1, Galbraith 1, Lea 1

U18 Academy Group C Table (as of 16/2/07):

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P W D L F A GD Pt

5. WBA Yth 19 8 2 9 27 28 -1 26

6. Man Utd Yth 18 6 4 8 32 32 0 22

7. Everton Yth 18 3 9 6 24 24 0 18

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Next Fixture:

03.03.07 Bolton Wanderers (H), Academy Group C @ Carrington

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Assists and at-fault-for's up for debate ofc. Suggestions for further stats welcome.

updated to include stats from Lille and Fulham. given the affg to Nemanja for saturday, if there's general disagreement to that it can be changed.

so, goals for giggs x2, ronaldo

assists for saha, rooney and silvestre (debatable, but why not)

bookings for vidic, evra, ferdinand and scholes

affg for vidic

and the other stuff

[BBB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Mourinho said: "United are very lucky they don't have to play here next week. Can you imagine them here next weekend?

"That's the game where they will slip up, against us, so they're very lucky." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Young Jimlad]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

He's been doing his coaching badges, so he obviously is open to that idea </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never said he wasn't open to the idea but a lot of players, sensibly, see coaching as an avenue for staying in the sport do they not? Given his recent experience with injuries and a prolonged period of time out it seems logical to me for him to keep his mind focussed on football when he couldn't get out on the pitch himself.

Like I said its more of a general musing about how I see/have a gut feeling about the sort role he'd take up at the club after retiring from the game, wasn't based on knowing he's been doing his badges or not.

[Terry Cheung]

Fletcher was brilliant against Roma and again last night. His confidence must be sky high.

Hargreaves would be still a good addition and I've long said he would be a good signing, but 20 million is too much for him. Apart from the fee it would not render Fletch surplus to requirements. United have been lucky with injuries in centre-midfield this year and ideally we need 4 top class players there. If we get Hargreaves this year, it will give him a year to bed in before we get Scholesy's replacement the season after.

Having said all that, if we only make one big signing, I'd feel a little bit disappointed if it was Hargreaves, no matter how highly I rate him.

[RSB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

and yeah, Giggs was loads better yesterday. Jonny's right in that the main annoyance for me is his speed of thought has been seriously lacking and he's so often caught on his heels when a pass is played to him, allowing the defender to easily intercept. less of that yesterday, better movement, some genuine creativity and blimey, maybe even a bit of leadership and taking of responsibility when we needed it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

good good, for a while I was starting to think it was just me that saw him improve yesterday.

annoys me when people rate players based on their pre-conceptions from recent games or whatever, rather than actually watching the game in question properly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Think that might be my problem kinda. Not that I'm saying I thought he was poor for the sake of it (see my recent turnaround on the back of some qg KR23 performances), more that I'm notice when he gives the ball away, picks the wrong pass, etc. more because I'm half looking for it, or expecting it I suppose. Still don't think he was particularly poor or particularly great, and at least seemed to get the simple things right more often than not yesters. More than anything, I simply feel that I expect more from him, since he is fb, and was turning in much better performances as recently as the start of this season.

Btw, anyone not going to Milan congregating in Mancs anywhere? Tempted to head up.

[Pickles]

SSN has the celebrations at Carrington

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gregg Carter:

could also fall into category of a tort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a type of dessert.

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Terry Cheung:

What is wrong with him? Ruud leaves, he establishes himself as first choice alongside Rooney and contributes greatly to United's success this season.

It's the pinnacle of his career to date. Why would he want to give that up? He can't be that stupid not to have taken his manager's warnings seriously. Any other person would risk injury rather than get cast out of Old Trafford.

It indicates that he has some psychological problem due to all his injuries. I just can't explain it otherwise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's the classic for the perenially injured player. They've had so many injuries in the past that every niggle that should be something to play through and ignore, becomes in their mind potentially the start of another serious lay off. So they don't risk it where others would, and both miss huge numbers of games anyway and **** their manager off at the same time.

I do have sympathy for him. When you've had the number of injuries he's had, i don't think there's many of us who wouldn't think the same way. But at the end of the day, the club has to come first, and we need someone we can rely on.

[BBB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by beffrey:

Haha didn't mean to post that in here. We should make some new singles thread and disguise it as something else so banal boy doesn't find it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

he might be gone soon....

[orion318]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NSteelez:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by orion318:

No way is anderson a left back...they meant AML </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah AML.. "the position of Roberto Carlos" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't trust me ask PMLF he'll confirm that anderson has never played as a left-back for brazil.

That quote from the paper is probably just made up tbh

But if you want to try him at left back be my guest, easy open corridor for the opposition and even when he's there he can't defend proper (but neither can roberto carlos so maybe that's the point )

[Nick OGS20]

tier 3 is an absolute c**t. 20+ times a season? never again ta

Si, you keeping your ST next season?