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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "Many times I thought about leaving, but I'm a warrior, so that was impossible. One thing I am sure of - Chelsea will win the Premiership again.

"Our draw at Old Trafford last week has stopped all the euphoria there." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wp Drogba </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOVING all the attempted mind-games coming from the rentboys. shows we've got them rattled.

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The United Thread Stat-tacular 2006-7: apres Boro

Appearances:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

1. Edwin VAN DER SAR | 15 | 5 | | | 20 |

2. Gary NEVILLE | 13 | 3 | | | 16 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 10(2) | 1(2) | | 0(1) | 11(5) |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | 4(3) | 3 | | 2 | 9(3) |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 16 | 3(1) | | | 19(1) |

6. Wes BROWN | 6(3) | 3 | | 2 | 11(3) |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 14 | 4 | | 1 | 19 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 13 | 5 | | 1 | 19 |

9. Louis SAHA | 13(1) | 4 | | | 17(1) |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 11(1) | 2 | | | 13(1) |

13. PARK Ji-Sung | 1(3) | | | | 1(3) |

14. Alan SMITH | | 0(2) | | 2 | 2(2) |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 10 | 4 | | | 14 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 12(1) | 5 | | | 16(1) |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 12 | 4(1) | | | 15(1) |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 3(4) | 1(2) | | 1 | 5(6) |

22. John O'SHEA | 7(7) | 3(2) | | 1 | 11(9) |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 3(1) | 0(2) | | 2 | 5(3) |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 8(5) | 3(1) | | 1 | 12(5) |

25. David JONES | | | | 2 | 2 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 4(4) | 2 | | 2 | 8(4) |

29. Tomasz KUSZCZAK | 1 | | | 2 | 3 |

34. Ryan SHAWCROSS | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 0(2) | 0(2) |

36. David GRAY | | | | 1 | 1 |

41. Philip MARSH | | | | 1 | 1 |

42. Michael BARNES | | | | 0(1) | 0(1) |

49. Ritchie JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Goalscorers:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

9. Louis SAHA | 7 | 3 | | | 10 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 7 | | | | 7 |

20. Ole Gunnar SOLSKJAER | 4 | 1 | | 1 | 6 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | 5 | | | | 5 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 2 | | | | 2 |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 2 | | | | 2 |

22. John O'SHEA | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

24. Darren FLETCHER | 2 | | | | 2 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 1 | | | | 1 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 1 | | | | 1 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | | 1 | | | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | 1 | | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

Own Goals | 1 | | | | 1 |

| | | | | |

Totals | 35 | 7 | | 2 | 44 |

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Penalties:

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9. Louis SAHA 3/4

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Penalties won:

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7. Cristiano RONALDO 2

8. Wayne ROONEY 1

11. Ryan GIGGS 1

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Assists:

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9. Louis SAHA 7

8. Wayne ROONEY 6

11. Ryan GIGGS 6

7. Cristiano RONALDO 4

2. Gary NEVILLE 2

3. Patrice EVRA 2

6. Wes BROWN 2

13. PARK Ji-Sung 1

14. Alan SMITH 1

15. Nemanja VIDIC 1

16. Michael CARRICK 1

18. Paul SCHOLES 1

24. Darren FLETCHER 1

49. Ritchie JONEs 1

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At Fault For Goal:

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27. Mikael SILVESTRE 2

2. Gary NEVILLE 1

3. Patrice EVRA 1

4. Gabriel HEINZE 1

5. Rio FERDINAND 1

6. Wes BROWN 1

7. Cristiano RONALDO 1

22. John O'SHEA 1

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Clean Sheets:

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Charlton away (EPL)

Tottenham home (EPL)

Benfica away (CL)

Newcastle home (EPL)

FC Kobenhavn home (CL)

Liverpool home (EPL)

Bolton away (EPL)

Portsmouth home (EPL)

Blackburn away (EPL)

Everton home (EPL)

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Yellow Cards:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

18. Paul SCHOLES | 4 | 2 | | | 5 |

3. Patrice EVRA | 3 | 1 | | | 4 |

6. Wes BROWN | 2 | | | 1 | 3 |

15. Nemanja VIDIC | 3 | | | | 3 |

8. Wayne ROONEY | 1 | | | 1 | 2 |

11. Ryan GIGGS | 2 | | | | 2 |

16. Michael CARRICK | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

22. John O'SHEA | 2 | | | | 2 |

4. Gabriel HEINZE | | 1 | | | 1 |

5. Rio FERDINAND | 1 | | | | 1 |

7. Cristiano RONALDO | | 1 | | | 1 |

9. Louis SAHA | 1 | | | | 1 |

23. Kieran RICHARDSON | 1 | | | 1 | 1 |

25. David JONES | | | | 1 | 1 |

27. Mikael SILVESTRE | | 1 | | | 1 |

35. Kieran LEE | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Average Goals Per Game: 2.52 (58 in 23)

Average Goals Scored Per Game: 1.91 (44 in 23)

Average Goals Conceded Per Game: 0.61 (14 in 23)

Games Won When Scoring First Goal: 14/15 (93.33%)

Games Drawn When Scoring First Goal: 1/15 (6.66%)

Games Lost When Scoring First Goal: 0/15

Games Won When Conceding First Goal: 3/8 (37.50%)

Games Drawn When Conceding First Goal: 1/8 (12.50%)

Games Lost When Conceding First Goal: 4/8 (50%)

Games Won When Leading At Half-Time: 10/11 (90.91%)

Games Drawn When Leading At Half-Time: 1/11 (9.09%)

Games Lost When Leading At Half-Time: 0/11

Games Won When Drawing At Half-Time: 6/10 (60%)

Games Drawn When Drawing At Half-Time: 1/10 (10%)

Games Lost When Drawing At Half-Time: 3/10 (30%)

Games Won When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Games Drawn When Losing At Half-Time: 0/2

Games Lost When Losing At Half-Time: 1/2 (50%)

Time of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 7 | | | | 7 |

15 - 30 mins | 5 | | | 1 | 6 |

30 - 45 mins | 4 | 3 | | | 7 |

45 - 60 mins | 3 | 3 | | | 6 |

60 - 75 mins | 10 | | | | 10 |

75 - 90 mins | 6 | 1 | | | 7 |

Extra Time | | | | 1 | 1 |

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Time of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

0 - 15 mins | 2 | | | | 2 |

15 - 30 mins | | 1 | | 1 | 2 |

30 - 45 mins | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

45 - 60 mins | 1 | | | | 1 |

60 - 75 mins | 2 | 1 | | 1 | 4 |

75 - 90 mins | 1 | 1 | | | 2 |

Extra Time | | | | | |

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Manner of Goals Scored:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 9 | 5 | | | 14 |

Right foot | 20 | 2 | | 2 | 24 |

Head | 5 | | | | 5 |

Opponent | 1 | | | | 1 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 30 | 5 | | 1 | 36 |

Outside area | 5 | 2 | | 1 | 8 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 29 | 5 | | 2 | 36 |

Set piece | 3 | 1 | | | 4 |

Direct freekick | 1 | | | | 1 |

Penalty | 2 | 1 | | | 3 |

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Manner of Goals Conceded:

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| Prem | ECL | FAC | TCC | Total |

| | | | | |

Left foot | 1 | 4 | | | 5 |

Right foot | 4 | | | 2 | 6 |

Head | 2 | | | | 2 |

United player | 1 | | | | 1 |

| | | | | |

Inside area | 6 | 2 | | | 8 |

Outside area | 2 | 2 | | 2 | 6 |

| | | | | |

Open play | 5 | 2 | | 1 | 8 |

Set piece | 1 | | | | 1 |

Direct freekick | 1 | 2 | | 1 | 4 |

Penalty | 1 | | | | 1 |

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Form

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Last Six (All comps): WWLDWW

Last Six (Prem/ship): WWWDWW

Home (All comps): WWWWDW

Home (Prem/ship): LWWWDW

Away (All comps): LLWWLW

Away (Prem/ship): DWWWWW

Games Unbeaten: 3 (all comps), 11 (premiership)

Consecutive Wins: 2 (all comps), 2 (premiership)

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Attendances:

Highest - 76,004, vs Portsmouth (Premiership, 4/11/06)

Lowest - 72,020, vs FC Kobenhavn (Champions League, 18/10/06)

Total - 751,381 (10 games)

Average - 75,138

Mart Leaving Early:

Sevilla home

Dubiously-legal female charity collectors ogled from the wall

Ten

Forthcoming Fixtures

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06.12.06 Benfica (H) CL Matchday 6

09.12.06 Manchester City (H) Premiership

17.12.06 West Ham United (A) Premiership

23.12.06 Aston Villa (A) Premiership

26.12.06 Wigan Athletic (H) Premiership

30.12.06 Reading (H) Premiership

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Reserves Update

Appearances: Kieran Lee 10, Ryan Shawcross 9, Daniel Rose 9, Ritchie Jones 8, Philip Marsh 7(3), Craig Cathcart 7(2), Tom Heaton 7, Aaron Burns 7, Michael Barnes 6(3), David Gray 6(1), David Jones 6, Jamie Mullan 5(1), Michael Lea 5(1), Alan Smith 5, Séan Evans 4(1), Tomasz Kuszczak 3, Floribert N'Galula 2, Christopher Eagles 1, Liam Miller 1, Sam Hewson 1(1), Giuseppe Rossi 1, Febian Brandy (5), Christy Fagan (2), Daniel Drinkwater (1), Magnus Wolff Eikrem (1),

Scorers: Philip Marsh 7, Aaron Burns 6, Febian Brandy 2, Giuseppe Rossi 2, Michael Barnes 2, Kieran Lee 1, Christopher Eagles 1, David Jones 1, Ryan Shawcross 1, Daniel Rose 1, David Gray 1, own goals 1 (Webster, Wigan)

Premier Reserve League North Table:

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P W D L F A GD Pts

1. M'boro Res 6 4 1 1 13 5 +8 13

2. Man Utd Res 6 4 0 2 13 7 +6 12

3. N'castle Res 5 3 2 0 11 6 +5 11

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Next Fixture:

30.11.06 Northwich Victoria (A) - Friendly, @ new Victoria Stadium

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Academy Update

Appearances: James Chester 14, Christy Fagan 13(1), Febian Brandy 12(1), James Derbyshire 11(3), Daniel Drinkwater 10(3), Magnus Wolff Eikrem 10(2), Craig Cathcart 10, Richard Eckersley 9, Sam Hewson 9, Benjamin Amos 9, Antonio Bryan 8(3), Conor McCormack 8(2), Daniel Welbeck 7(6), Michael Lea 6, Ron-Robert Zieler 5, Daniel Galbraith 5, Corrie Evans 3(2), Thomas Cleverley 3(1), Kenny Strickland 2(1), Oliver Norwood (2), Matthew James (2)

Scorers: Brandy 9, Fagan 5, Welbeck 5, Bryan 2, Galbraith 1, Hewson 2, Cathcart 1,

Eikrem 1, Lea 1

U18 Academy Group C Table:

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P W D L F A GD Pt

4. Crewe Yth 14 7 1 6 29 23 6 22`

5. Man Utd Yth 14 5 3 6 27 26 1 18

6. Wolves Yth 14 4 3 7 16 26 -10 15

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Next Fixture:

02.12.06 Manchester City (A) - Academy C, @ Platt Lane

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Assists and at-fault-for's up for debate ofc. Suggestions for further stats welcome.

Goals from Saha and Fletch, assists from Ronaldo and Giggs, Gaby AFFG, bookings for Vidic, Saha and Scholes.

Scholesy one yellow card away from suspension in both the league and europe /O\

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

just had a stumble across to RI there, that place is away to the dogs icon_frown.gif

what's with all the Irishness on there lately? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always been away to the dogs tbf.

Speaking of Red Ish, does anyone else here get it by subscription, and if so, have you got your latest copy yet?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

Nick, you never replied when i suggested Heinze should have an affg for Chelsea. Have you decided that one is settled as no fault, or is it still up for debate? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

must have missed that. i'm more than willing to go with that if it's the general conscensus.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

just had a stumble across to RI there, that place is away to the dogs icon_frown.gif

what's with all the Irishness on there lately? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always been away to the dogs tbf.

Speaking of Red Ish, does anyone else here get it by subscription, and if so, have you got your latest copy yet? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

don't get it by subscription myself, but there was a thread on the sanctuary the day before the game the new issue came out at (chelsea i think) where people with subscriptions were saying they'd been pleasantly surprised to recieve their copies early.

and yeah, the forum was always fairly sh*t, it's utterly abysmal now

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

Nick, you never replied when i suggested Heinze should have an affg for Chelsea. Have you decided that one is settled as no fault, or is it still up for debate? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

must have missed that. i'm more than willing to go with that if it's the general conscensus. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i don't know if it was or not to be honest, i can't remember if there was much debate on it at the time.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

that's plenty old enough, he's slacking icon13.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's some things you just don't joke about icon_mad.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alilaw:

Was Wilkinson not in charge of the Finland game??? The 0-0? Have a feeling he played there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, Phil Neville played right back in that one.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal:

yeah just found it.

On a sidenote, never new Graeme Le Sauxs middle name was Pierre.

Big gayer.

So GN is not the England player who has played under the most England managers then. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you know how many managers the person in question has played under?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

just had a stumble across to RI there, that place is away to the dogs icon_frown.gif

what's with all the Irishness on there lately? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always been away to the dogs tbf.

Speaking of Red Ish, does anyone else here get it by subscription, and if so, have you got your latest copy yet? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I get it by subscription, last issue I got was the one with Kieran Richardson and Venables on the back

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal:

Yes, I know the answer, just wasnt sure whether Neville had matched it.

On another side note, Andrew Coles first four appearances for England came under 4 different managers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Would you care to share the information?

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Suit yourself icon_razz.gif

I'm guessing it's Seaman with 7, as i know his first cap was under Robson, and i'm assuming he played for all the subsequent managers up to Sven barring the Peter Taylor game. Gary Neville will be 6 if he didn't play under sergeant Wilko.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

just had a stumble across to RI there, that place is away to the dogs icon_frown.gif

what's with all the Irishness on there lately? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always been away to the dogs tbf.

Speaking of Red Ish, does anyone else here get it by subscription, and if so, have you got your latest copy yet? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I get it by subscription, last issue I got was the one with Kieran Richardson and Venables on the back </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Early last week or the week before, yeah?

Yeah, I reckon Royal Mail have mislaid mine. Or else my strange Lithuanian housemate is stealing my mail.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

Suit yourself icon_razz.gif

I'm guessing it's Seaman with 7, as i know his first cap was under Robson, and i'm assuming he played for all the subsequent managers up to Sven barring the Peter Taylor game. Gary Neville will be 6 if he didn't play under sergeant Wilko. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct sire, see its not that hard to think for yourself is it?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

Seeing as Matt is watching the snooker on Saturday, any of you wonderful people (Taz iirc you get the team news early) fancy texting me the team news on Saturday? icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you send me your number i dont mind texting you. Although at the rate i text you probably wont get the team news until after its kicked off. icon_wink.gif

* Winky smilie just because i havent posted one for ages.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

Suit yourself icon_razz.gif

I'm guessing it's Seaman with 7, as i know his first cap was under Robson, and i'm assuming he played for all the subsequent managers up to Sven barring the Peter Taylor game. Gary Neville will be 6 if he didn't play under sergeant Wilko. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct sire, see its not that hard to think for yourself is it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You were the one who came in begging for information first.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Father Senegal:

Especially as he doenst have a dad called Seaman Seaman afaik </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless Old Man Seaman was some kind of sailor, ofc.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

his tache-growing skills are undeniably superior also </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's face it, Ryan could grow a better 'tache than Gary Nev.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ladle:

just had a stumble across to RI there, that place is away to the dogs icon_frown.gif

what's with all the Irishness on there lately? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always been away to the dogs tbf.

Speaking of Red Ish, does anyone else here get it by subscription, and if so, have you got your latest copy yet? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I get it by subscription, last issue I got was the one with Kieran Richardson and Venables on the back </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Early last week or the week before, yeah?

Yeah, I reckon Royal Mail have mislaid mine. Or else my strange Lithuanian housemate is stealing my mail. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah, think it was the early part of last week

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I don't think it'll happen but if Manchester United screw up against Benfica on Wednesday night, there'll only be one person to blame - Sir Alex Ferguson. I don't know if it was arrogance or mere misjudgement but the manager, who's been celebrating 20 successful years at Old Trafford, made an awful mistake in Copenhagen. Instead of fielding a full strength side there, taking all three points and then coasting through the final games of the Champions League group, Fergie rested too many players and paid the price of defeat. He couldn't have anticipated that his team, now restored to proper proportions, could be superior to Celtic in the following match and still lose at Parkhead but it means United mustn't lose to the Portuguese or they'll go out at the group stage for the 2nd successive season: unthinkable, I know, so maybe we shouldn't think about it.'

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 'Former Manchester United and Chelsea midfielder Juan Sebastian Veron faces two years in prison after being accused of illegally obtaining an Italian passport.

An Italian court recommended on Saturday morning that the ex-Argentine international - who now plays for Estudiantes in his homeland - serve the sentence if he is found guilty of the offence.

Three other men, including Lazio president Sergio Cragnotti, are also being prosecuted for irregularities regarding Veron's passport.

Veron, 31, moved to Italy with Sampdoria in 1996 and also played for Parma and Lazio in the latter's title-winning season in 2000, before taking the Premiership title with Man United in 2003 and then moving on to Chelsea.

After a loan spell in Serie A with Internatzionale (pictured) that yielded another title last season, he returned home during the summer.' </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

poor Seba icon_frown.gif

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