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keep your nerves, ffs. We won't finish third, it doesn't matter how much of a stride the skaus get in, they're too far behind. ditto arsenal.

Will we win the league? Probably not, but the next few months are going to be interesting. A mark of our credentials will be when we visit Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. I do think we'll do okay, i'm predicting 7 points from those 3 and if we're going to stuff up, history teaches us it will be against the likes of Watford, Sheff Utd and Reading because he thinks he can piddle with the team at vital parts of the season.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keyser:

keep your nerves, ffs. We won't finish third, it doesn't matter how much of a stride the skaus get in, they're too far behind. ditto arsenal.

Will we win the league? Probably not, but the next few months are going to be interesting. A mark of our credentials will be when we visit Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. I do think we'll do okay, i'm predicting 7 points from those 3 and if we're going to stuff up, history teaches us it will be against the likes of Watford, Sheff Utd and Reading because he thinks he can piddle with the team at vital parts of the season. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Given the small squad and the fact that we're still in the CL, he's probably going to have to piddle with the team at some point to avoid everyone running out of gas.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 14AlanSmithifb:

we won't win champions league anyway, nowhere near strong enough.

so to answer the question no.1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A great first XI but a poor squad would suggest we've actually got more chance of winning a cup competition than a league.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

so we still have Liverpool/Chelsea/Arsenal all away

Chelsea have got us at home, Arsenal away, Liverpool where? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anfield.

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Cantona interview in The Times

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> In the court of King Cantona

Eric Cantona’s short reign at Manchester United won him the zealous devotion of many fans, who almost a decade after he left still chant his name. But until now, he has kept his distance. David Walsh tracks him down

The look is full of disdain. “Cantona was a footballer,†he says, “not an actor.†This tall, thin young man is in charge of the sprawling DVD department at the FNAC store near St Lazare station in the centre of Paris and cannot tolerate the suggestion. “Cantona,†you try to explain, “has been in 11 films, some of them well received.†His disdain deepens. “We don’t have any of them in this store.†He says this standing on a warehouse-sized floor, surrounded by Hollywood trash, Bollywood trash, horror trash, every kind of trash. “Could you check on your computer?†He finds Cantona’s second film, Le Bonheur Est dans le Pré (Happiness Is in the Meadow), momentarily wonders if he should own up, then admits: “Yeah, we do have one.â€

At an even bigger store at Les Halles, the assistant is polite. “Nobody in France considers Eric Cantona an actor,†he says. He types “Cantona†into his computer. “See,†he says, “nothing.†The first eight years of Cantona’s life in professional football were spent in France: Auxerre, Martigues, Marseilles, Bordeaux, Montpellier, Nimes. Few considered him a good footballer. Unloved, he left for England.

There, among the Red Devils of Manchester United, he played like an angel, seeming to glide through games, seeing the action as if observing it from on high. He made extraordinary passes, scored wonderful goals, but if there was one thing that distinguished him from the rest, it was the theatricality of his play. He saw himself not as a player but as an actor; technically gifted, assiduously prepared, but still a showman Sometimes, after scoring one of his better goals, he would stand motionless, his chest pushed out, his chin tilted towards the heavens, regally soaking up the acclamation. More than any other Manchester United player, Cantona was the reason the club won its first league title for 26 years in 1992. He played 181 matches and left four years after joining United, but in that short time he became an iconic figure.

Imaginative, creative and intelligent, he was a great footballer. As a man he was passionate, intelligent and volatile. And then there was his Gallic hauteur and strange psychological depth. There was only ever one Eric Cantona.

Nothing became his life at Old Trafford as much as his leaving of it. “See you later,†he said to his team-mates as they got off the coach after a testimonial game at Coventry at the end of the 1997 season. They had just won the Premiership, Cantona’s fourth, and a week or so later the club announced his retirement. By then he was already out of the country on his way to another life. He was 30 and in the full flush of his health.

He doesn’t so much walk as spring into the foyer of the Hôtel Westminster on the Rue de la Paix. It is reassuring to see him on his own: no PR person, no accompanying agent, no need for the crutches of celebrity. It is his physical appearance that knocks you over: he is 40 but looks 35, the smile never leaves his eyes and there’s not a hint that professional sport once owned his body.

Of course, it isn’t just good looks. He dresses with immaculate casualness: the ordinary jacket that sits so right, the jeans, the top, everything cool. Back in the old days at Manchester, Lee Sharpe and Roy Keane would torture the centre half Steve Bruce for the way he dressed. Bruce would point at Cantona’s woolly cardigan and cowboy boots: “What about him?†“Brucey,†they’d say, “he carries it off.â€

Cantona has long done that, and not just with his clothes. The clever flicks, the outrageous volleys, even that kung-fu kick at Selhurst Park had a certain style. Today he wants to win me over: it can be seen in the way he smiles, pauses before answering and then looks me in the eye. It is as if he is saying: “I know in your job you are faced with people who speak to you as if you were an object – I see you as a person.â€

You know this is another Eric Cantona performance and, as with many others in the past, you are willingly swept along.

His life, he wants you to know, is good. Actually, it is very good. He is filming in Paris this week, Le Deuxième Souffle (The Second Breath), a remake of the 1966 Jean-Pierre Melville movie, and it’s a good part. He talks animatedly about French cinema and how in this movie he is working with the respected French actor Daniel Auteuil.

His enthusiasm and his openness are unexpected, as is the understated charm. Is this smiling and pleasant man the post-football Cantona? “I was like this when I played,†he says, “but I did some things, like when I went after that fan, and that becomes a strong image. People always have it in their minds. That was just one part of me. Most of the time I was very tranquil. My blood has a good circulation, I feel good about my body, about my thinking, I am not stressed, not contracted. I feel like an elastic.â€

He wants to explain what retirement from football meant to him, and why he chose cinema: “Retirement is like a death. When you are a footballer, you do something very public, you do it because it is a passion and you feel alive when you’re doing it. You feel alive also because people recognise you for the job you do. Then you quit and it’s like a death. A lot of footballers are afraid and that is why they go on TV to speak about the game. They don’t speak to teach the public or to give a point of view, they do it for themselves. It is important because it helps them to feel alive again, to deal with their fears about this death.

“It was easier for me because I chose to quit when I was still young, and I didn’t quit because I was injured or not able to play at a high level. I also knew why fans were interested in me, I wasn’t naive about that and I prepared for a life where I wouldn’t be recognised. But I have done something public, cinema, so maybe I too was afraid of not being recognised.â€

From the beginning, he understood the risks of trying to earn recognition as an actor. He was starting late, without any formal training and with the burden of being “Eric Cantona, the footballerâ€. “It was very difficult at the beginning, for two reasons: I didn’t have experience and I wasn’t very good.â€

He notices the recently acquired copy of Le Bonheur Est dans le Pré sitting on the table and suggests it’s not worth the trouble, as it came too early in his career and his was a minor part. There is one film he is willing to be judged on, a 2003 cult movie called L’Outremangeur (The Over-Eater), in which he plays the lead part, Police Inspector Richard Séléna, who is good at his job but is also a compulsive eater with a dysfunctional personal life. His bulimia stems from a childhood trauma and the plot centres on a pact between Cantona’s character and a female murderer. To remain free, she must dine with him for a year. Cantona put on two stone in weight, wore a fat-suit and delivered the performance of his fledgling career. “He gets inside the skin of a deeply lonely man and manages to make him touching, even profoundly moving,†said Dominique Borde in Le Figaro. “Cantona brings credibility to this obese character… it was a daring challenge but the former sportsman finally earns his stripes as an actor,†said the reviewer in Le Matin. “Cantona is amazingly dignified and repressed as the police inspector,†said the critic Arthur Blose.

“The film is a kind of Beauty and the Beast,†says Cantona. “I am overweight and ugly; she is young and beautiful. I can’t look at myself in the mirror, because I cannot accept my size. But in her company, I begin to fall in love and to accept myself. I look into her eyes and for the first time in my life I have found a mirror, the only one I can look at. I think it is a very nice movie.â€

As he talks about L’Outremangeur, he momentarily becomes Inspector Séléna and his eyes express the joy of the man who, through a beautiful woman, finds himself.

The ease with which Cantona shows emotion came with his DNA, especially from the genes of Albert, his father. They lived at Caillols, one of the less glamorous suburbs of Marseilles, and Eric, the middle son in a family of three boys, grew up with a deep love of his father.

As a psychiatric nurse, Albert couldn’t afford to travel, but the boy could see that in his imagination his father had been everywhere. After returning from school, Eric would go to the studio in their home where Albert worked on his paintings. More than 30 years later, Cantona can still recall the smell of the paint.

Albert watched his son play and learn football. He would tell him what he had to do to improve and Eric practised and practised. “It wasn’t necessary for my father to tell me I was good, I could see it in his eyes. It’s better if it’s not said but shown in other ways.†Albert’s encouragement instilled a work ethic in Cantona that would amaze all those who saw him during the early days at Manchester. His attitude to practice rubbed off on his team-mates and radically improved the quality of training at the club.

According to his son, Albert’s painting was technically very good and creative. What Eric most remembers, though, is his father’s passion. “He was passionate about many things. He was a strong man but he was also sensitive. He explained something to you and sometimes he would start to cry. He gave us this passion and love for life.

That’s very important: when your education is built around that, it is solid. And you can cry, even when you are a strong man. You can find something beautiful and cry simply because it is so beautiful. Is it a problem to cry? Some families think a man who cries is like a woman. I don’t think so. You can find emotion in the beauty of things and, to me, that’s love.â€

The same passion burned inside the son and was expressed in his football, often in the most self-destructive ways. It killed the first, French half of his career. The young Cantona called Henri Michel, then manager of the French team, a “shitbag†in 1988, and a year later he threw his Marseilles jersey on the ground after being substituted in a match against Torpedo Moscow. Just as the kung-fu kick became a defining image of his time in England, the picture of him flinging his jersey into the mud symbolised his eight-year-long frustration in the French league.

Neither did he go quietly when leaving his native country. After receiving a suspension from the French federation, he called each individual on the disciplinary committee an idiot. So he left la belle France for the industrial north of England, and one of sport’s great ironies was about to be played out: French footballer blessed with imagination, skill, creativity and beguiling style feels crushed in his native country and finds a new and welcoming home in England.

He doesn’t believe it’s so surprising: “For many years in France, teams have played 11 sheep. Nobody plays with imagination. The last one was Zidane, and he was the only one. All the players are the same: same personality, same way of playing, same formations. In the time of Platini, there was a lot of imagination. But for a long time now, it is robot station.

“When I came to England they had their game, but they wanted to open it up to something more. I felt that. They wanted to keep the structure they had, the way they passed, but they wanted something different. And what they added, everybody enjoyed. It was not because of me that this change happened. I just arrived exactly when there was this desire for something with more imagination. Since I’ve left, a lot of players are showing this imagination; even the young English players are showing it.â€

He came with his wife, Isabelle, and their young son, Raphael, and for three years the family lived in a modest semidetached house not far from Roundhay Park in Leeds. Isabelle taught French at Leeds University while her husband taught football at grounds all around the country.

When they moved to Manchester, they lived in another small semidetached house at Boothstown. The modest house was a stark reminder of his individual nature: his passion was for the game, not the trappings. Ask him why he chose to live not among those he played with but among those he played for, and he answers matter-of-factly: “It’s boring to be in a big house. When you are four people, why would you buy a house with seven bedrooms? Why would I do that, if not to show people that I am rich? I buy a house that I need not to show people I am rich – they already know that.

“The man who buys the big house with all the bedrooms he doesn’t need shows he’s rich, but maybe he’s not rich inside. For me the atmosphere inside a house is very important: everywhere I have been with my family, it has been cosy. When I was a footballer I never thought I was different to other people, I just had a different job. People who are successful want to show they are different, they live in the big house and try to live in another world. I want to live in the same world. I don’t have the pretension to be somewhere else. If I have 11 children, I will try to get a house with 10 bedrooms.â€

Because of Isabelle’s job at Leeds University, they kept their house in Leeds for two years after he joined Manchester United. There were attacks on the house; fireworks through the letterbox, car tyres slashed, but he felt no resentment towards Leeds fans. “I understood their feelings. If I had been one of them, I might have done the same.â€

He left United in May 1997, 41/2 years after he had arrived. In that period, United won the Premiership four times; the one they lost coincided with the season Cantona missed because of his eight-month ban for kicking the Crystal Palace fan. The end came because the well that once held his passion for the game had run dry. He noticed it in the way he became bothered by the growing commercialism of the game and the pursuit of merchandising revenue at Manchester United. And in that last season, he no longer had the enthusiasm for the unique importance of each match.

“What gives you adrenaline for football is the context of the game, and when you start not to care about that, it is because you’re losing your passion. Then, the only reason for continuing is money. I had always said, since I was 20, this is a passion and if one day I lose this passion, I quit. And I did. I never played for money. If I had never been paid, I would still have played with the same passion.â€

Once the decision was made, he had to move away from football. He couldn’t stay in England, couldn’t return to France, so he went to Barcelona. He’d been there as a 10-year-old visiting his maternal grandparents, and it was such a sweet memory, the place drew him back.

Retirement offered the time to pursue other interests: cinema, photography, painting and, to pleasure body as well as soul, he played beach football. Cantona has returned to Old Trafford for three testimonial games, the last one for Ryan Giggs in 2001, but otherwise he makes a point of not looking back. He has no contact with any of his old team-mates. “I’ve always been paranoid about the telephone,†he says. “When I call, I never know if I disturb them. Face to face, I can see the other person is open to speaking. On the phone, you can lie easily. I prefer the pleasures of [face-to-face] conversation.â€

He has no regret about the lack of contact with his old United comrades. He disagrees with the suggestion that it’s normal for ex-footballers to lose touch. “I don’t think it’s normal. Some footballers are close. It’s just me.â€

And then, almost as an aside, he explains why it is better to have the memories rather than any post-career camaraderie: “In our football years, we are strong because we’re all in the same boat and we are in danger. We work together to survive, then when you quit, you don’t have that goal any more. You’re not on that boat and you are left with only the memory. What you know is that you will never live again like you have lived on that boat. That is a frustration because what you had was so strong.

In life, there is nothing as intense as what you felt as a footballer and I prefer to leave it at that. In real life, what could we do together? We could meet for an evening, have a drink, speak about the past and what then? After that it becomes ordinary.

“It is like you have had an intense love affair with somebody and you separate. Later you can meet for a coffee, but what good does it do? You’re not going to get back together and you’re not going to feel like you did before.â€

As for United, they remain his club but the voice of reason inside his head asks how can he support a team owned by an American investor, which now exists to make sure there is enough profit to justify the investment. He can find no justification for supporting such a club, except that his heart keeps him there.

We are speaking four days after a game against Sheffield United. “Oh yes, I still follow each result. One-nil down to Sheffield United before half-time – they won with two Rooney goals.â€

After four years in Barcelona, the Cantonas moved to Marseilles, and then his marriage to Isabelle ended. “Divorce is not easy, it never is easy. I lived 20 years with my ex-wife; we had two children, Raphael and Joséphine. She is from a family that has not known one divorce; I am from a family where nobody has divorced. For the children and for us, it was difficult.â€

He now lives in Paris with his girlfriend and says if you visited his apartment you would not know he once played football. Acting and photography are now his greatest interests, and when the producers of an impressive 35-kilo book on Manchester United asked if he’d like to show some of his photographs in the soon-to-be-published work, he agreed. Coming up with his own ideas and compositions, he worked with the French photographer Richard Aujard to produce five self-portraits (which appear in the newsprint edition of the Magazine). He says he has an explanation for each one, but to offer them would be to reduce the experience for those who will see the images. “I don’t say they are art – that would be pretentious – but in this world you have the freedom of the people who do it, and the freedom of those who observe it.â€

They are striking images that show the diverse ways in which he sees himself. A football appears in two photographs, reflecting his long-held view that he can never get away from what he did as a footballer. He sees the game as a shadow that follows him everywhere, a sometimes bothersome and always constant shadow.

There are no plans for his future, a privilege that has come from football’s riches. He goes with the flow of his passion; away from football to cinema, photography, painting, whatever excites him. What he is certain about is that there is much more to be done. “My dream was to live in the world of creation. In football I did that; now I have other opportunities to do that. The only thing I fear is death.

“Sometimes when I take a flight I am a little afraid, because we can die in a plane crash very quickly. In cars too, but in cars you have some control. I have things on my memory stick and I never take that with me when I am flying. I say to my partner, the person I am living with, ‘If something happened to me, I want you to read what is on that memory stick and do what is there.’ She says, ‘No, no, no, it’s not mine.’

“I tell her, ‘I want you to do these things if you can, to say to people: it was Eric’s wish that this would happen.’ If I die with the memory stick, I die with everything. I want to go with the possibility that what I haven’t achieved will be achieved by somebody else. I’ve always thought, now more than ever, that it is not how you live your life but how people will remember you.â€

Before him, there is a United jersey I wish him to sign. He smiles, now recognising the shadow as a friend. He asks to whom he should write. “Dan,†I say, “Dan is the boy’s name. He’s a young footballer, sometimes gets into trouble with referees, plays a little like you once did.â€

After writing “To Danâ€, he stops, the marker poised three inches over the jersey. For almost two minutes he thinks about what he will say. The silence fills the room.

Eventually he begins to write: “Ne jamais perdre sa passion! Ou s’en éloigner vite, Eric Cantona†– Never lose your passion, or if you do, get away quickly.

And that was it from Eric Cantona. He offered thanks for the water, pulled up his collar and disappeared into Parisian evenings </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Gabriel Heinze has revealed he has no regrets over turning down the opportunity to leave Manchester United in the summer.

It is believed that Real Madrid courted the Argentinian left-back in the summer, but he opted to remain and fight for his place at Old Trafford under Sir Alex Ferguson.

Heinze's chances at the start of the season were hit after coming back with a problem from the World Cup finals and he has found it tough to dislodge Patrice Evra.

Despite his troubles Heinze, who suffered a serious injury last term, is happy to knuckle down and battle for his place in Manchester.

"I had the misfortune to suffer a bad injury and that can happen to anyone," Heinze told the News of the World. "But when I was asked to move to a different, very important, team - Sir Alex asked me to stay and I stayed.

"I feel at ease in this club - a club that has given me a lot and for whom I have given everything.

"Any questions about my future should be directed to the coach. The only thing I can tell you is how happy I am when I play for United." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RedBlood:

What club is he on about? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The article (and rumours at the time), suggest Real, but I don't know for certain.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gonch19:

i would walk to holland to get klaas jan huntelaar. he is so fffffffffffb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can walk on water?

Seriously though. Huntelaar already said that he'll finish this season at Ajax and he'll would like to play for Ajax too next season.

Although I learned players saying stuff like that don't mean ****.

But it's obvious he will go sooner or later.

And I know Man Utd is one of the richest clubs in the world.

So get your money ready Fergie. I'm talking about 20 million pounds at least. icon_wink.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has expressed his relief that Park Ji-Sung is ready to return after recovering from ankle surgery.

"Park is a great player to get back," said Ferguson.

"His versatility and movement off the ball is something we shall use over the Christmas period."

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and fellow striker Alan Smith are also close to full match fitness, easing the pressure on Wayne Rooney and Louis Saha.

"For six weeks or so, we have operated with my heart in my mouth, hoping nothing serious would befall Louis or Wayne," added Ferguson.

"It was a situation that worried me - as I know it did our supporters."

Ferguson's attacking options will also be boosted by the availability of loan signing from Helsingborg, Henrik Larsson, from 1 January, while Guiseppe Rossi's loan spell at Newcastle is drawing to a close.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Alain Cayzac admits he would love to bring Gabriel Heinze back to Paris Saint Germain.

Heinze established himself as a firm fans' favourite during three years at Parc des Princes before leaving for Manchester United in 2004.

In recent months, reports have linked the Argentina international with a return to PSG in the January transfer window.

The left-back is rumoured to be wanted on loan for the second half of the season and remains revered in the French capital.

PSG chairman Cayzac acknowledged his admiration for Heinze when discussing the possibility of signing his compatriot Marcelo Gallardo.

"I loved Gallardo when he was at Monaco," Cayzac told L'Equipe. "I love playmakers, with talent for passing.

"Moreover, he is a player of strong character, like the Argentinians that have played recently at PSG, like Sorin and Heinze.

"I would like to make Heinze come back to Paris, but it won't be possible immediately."

Heinze has recently stated his happiness at Old Trafford as he duels with Patrice Evra to become United's first-choice left-back. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I couldnt see that posted anywhere else in here, apologies if so

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SirZ:

West Ham V Man Utd last season did it end 1-2 or 1-3?

Scorers Harewood,Rooney,O'Shea?Brown?

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2-1 rooney and o shea

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Is he the one who, when discussing the last game he officiated, wrote something along the lines of 'even though the home fans had just witnessed a 4-0 win by their team, I couldn't help feeling the standing ovation at the end had something to do with it being my last game'?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by alilaw:

Is he the one who, when discussing the last game he officiated, wrote something along the lines of 'even though the home fans had just witnessed a 4-0 win by their team, I couldn't help feeling the standing ovation at the end had something to do with it being my last game'? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh god please let that be true icon_biggrin.gif

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“ In the end I played a little bit extra, waiting until play was at the Kop end, before sounding the final shrill blast - a bit like the Last Post. The fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and louder than normal, even for a big home win. Did they know it was my final visit? Was the applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football people, that it would not surprise me. â€

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugg off you hideous creature

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Winter then went on to make a couple of remarks about Poll having a bit of an ego. This is the same Jeff Winter who, in his best-forgotten autobiography 'Who's The B*****d In The Black?', mused on whether the lengthy applause given by Liverpool's fans at the end of his final visit to Anfield as a referee was for him, rather than for a home team who had just won 4-0. Don't know how to break this to you, Jeff, but I think the applause was for the Liverpool players. Still, well done anyway on your refereeing career. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keyser:

keep your nerves, ffs. We won't finish third, it doesn't matter how much of a stride the skaus get in, they're too far behind. ditto arsenal.

Will we win the league? Probably not, but the next few months are going to be interesting. A mark of our credentials will be when we visit Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. I do think we'll do okay, i'm predicting 7 points from those 3 and if we're going to stuff up, history teaches us it will be against the likes of Watford, Sheff Utd and Reading because he thinks he can piddle with the team at vital parts of the season. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that's borderline giddy from you. icon_biggrin.gif

if we pick up 7 points from those three aways, we'll win the league without question.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni:

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“ In the end I played a little bit extra, waiting until play was at the Kop end, before sounding the final shrill blast - a bit like the Last Post. The fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and louder than normal, even for a big home win. Did they know it was my final visit? Was the applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football people, that it would not surprise me. â€

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugg off you hideous creature </div></BLOCKQUOTE>bahahahaha

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