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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

As long as people support the club in their own way, I couldn't give a flying if the don't stand and shout abuse at some former Scouse youth player who didn't even play in their reserves. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That aimed at me? fwiw, I dislike the scouse songs, it's like we're ****ing obsessed with them.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

No Martin, its aimed at the vitriol that is spouted by a few fans who think they are mightier than thou. I know no-one on here is like that, but there are others who take part in continued one-upmanship. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're blatantly referring to the weststandred debacle.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James M:

I sung at Fulham icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We sang at Fulham. icon_mad.gif

Tbf, though, you were far more vocal than I. icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Razor Eddie:

MOM: Henke

2nd: <STRIKE>Anybody but Carrick.</STRIKE> Paddy Evra </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

No Martin, its aimed at the vitriol that is spouted by a few fans who think they are mightier than thou. I know no-one on here is like that, but there are others who take part in continued one-upmanship. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're blatantly referring to the weststandred debacle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, what I said has nothing to do what is posted in here. It is stuff that some United (and other teams) fans I know down here who try and make themselves seem to be the better fan of their teams. More often than not they'll chat away to mates not paying attention to their team playing on the telly, and then they have the cheek to have a moan at me for not going to as many games as they do.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

More often than not they'll chat away to mates not paying attention to their team playing on the telly, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate folk like that.

Stfu and watch the bloody game !! icon_mad.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Razor Eddie:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James M:

I sung at Fulham icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We sang at Fulham. icon_mad.gif

Tbf, though, you were far more vocal than I. icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was going to mention you, but I wanted to appear to be a better fan, in a bid to live up to the super-fan stature of Mart :*)

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Randomly chipping into this debate because the Chelsea thread don't go to games, and we have crap crowds too. I'm kinda like Matt in most ways, but more recently this season I've decided not to care at all and regularly been the only one in my block singing, although it's usually to join in with someone else a few seats away. Rarely start chants unless it's an away.

There was the Levski home game which I'm told I was a bit loud in because a mate heard me from his seat roughly 50 yards away icon_redface.gif but it was quiet that game ffs icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gonch19:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

we'll let him do the treble only if he promises to retire after this one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why exactly? the notion that there is someone better out there to manage us right now and that fergie is somehow deadwood is frankly ridiculous. i hope you are joking </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i thought i was one of the more vociferous 'fergie in' advocates round here. icon_biggrin.gif

while i believe, and have done since august, that we will win the league, we're at millions to win both the cups as well. absolute millions. i have absolutely no faith in our ability to keep a clean sheet at home against a good side in europe, and we're an away tie vs chelsea or arsenal from going out of the fa cup.

and yes, you're probably right. the lack of realistic alternatives available atm is more than a concern. but i think if, by some minor miracle, we awere to arse our way to three major trophies this term, fergie should do what he should have done in 99 and walk away. i think that more for his own sake than anything else - more for the sake of his legacy to the club. a legendary manager bowing out at the very top with an extremely promising young team for his successor.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Larsson makes his mark

Richard Jolly

Manchester United arrived to praise their newest Scandinavian striker and departed celebrating the enduring ability of another. That Henrik Larsson and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer are extremely accomplished goalscorers is hardly breaking news, but a demonstration of their prowess is impressive nonetheless.

Not least because of the timing. For both, there was a certain inevitability. No matter how many times Solskjaer has scored in the early stages of games or what his tally of meaningless consolation efforts or superfluous strikes that boost goal difference is, he is indelibly associated with a late arrival from the bench to decide a vital game. This was no exception; indeed, with an injury-time winner, this was archetypal Solskjaer.

Loyalty and humility have contributed to his status as an Old Trafford legend, but not nearly as much as late goals. The strike that secured the Champions League in Barcelona - another in added time - is the most famous, but earlier in United's treble season, he emerged from the ranks of the substitutes to eliminate Liverpool from the FA Cup at a similarly late stage.

Now it was Aston Villa's turn. Solskjaer's shot was drilled hard and low, squeezing inside Gabor Kiraly's near post and saving United a replay and, potentially, a first third-round exit in Sir Alex Ferguson's 21 seasons in charge.

'Gabor's distraught,' said Martin O'Neill, amid suggestions his on-loan goalkeeper should have saved it. 'Somebody blocked my view for the winning goal,' said Ferguson, who admitted he had been contemplating a replay. 'But with Ole Gunnar on the park, you always have a chance of scoring.'

Though Ryan Giggs struck the bar just after Larsson's opener, Villa responded with admirable purpose to conceding. 'We played our best football when we went behind,' O'Neill explained. Gary Cahill headed narrowly wide and Tomasz Kuszczak saved smartly from Isaiah Osbourne before Milan Baros equalised.

Latching on to Cahill's mis-hit shot, he beat Kuszczak and Martin O'Neill said: 'He took the goal splendidly. He's come and shown a vibrancy. That's the Milan Baros we really want. Centre forwards live or die by the number of goals they get.'

It is something Manchester United's veteran Scandinavians know only too well. Solskjaer was only introduced because Larsson had a tight calf.

'You're taking one really good finisher off and putting another really good finisher on,' explained Ferguson, enjoying a position the luxury of his attacking resources now affords. Larsson's availability made a difference; six days ago at Newcastle, Ferguson had fielded a bench without a specialist striker.

With Solskjaer restored to the replacements, the Norwegian swiftly emulated the Swede, but the significance of Larsson's debut extended beyond opening his United account.

'I wanted to find out about his fitness and his sharpness and he's proved that,' added Ferguson. 'His movement and his judgment was terrific. That split-second movement he gives was terrific.'

O'Neill knows that better than most. If he had not been beforehand, the Aston Villa manager must have been filled with a sense of foreboding when he saw the teamsheet. The majority of Larsson's 242 Celtic goals were scored under his guidance.

If a reminder of his clinical finishing was hardly required, one arrived anyway after 55 minutes. After a move involving Michael Carrick, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney, he steered a shot into the top corner.

'He scored the goal and he's always capable of doing that,' the Villa manager said. 'I never thought for one minute he couldn't score in any league he chose. It is great news for Henrik and great news for Manchester United. It suits both parties.'

It was far from the only time Larsson and Rooney combined. Indeed, for an untried partnership, there was much to purr over. The 35-year-old's fine positional sense and ability to dovetail on debut with new team-mates suggested that he could have a pivotal say in the title race. An understanding of both his game and his role within the side enabled him to provide for Rooney without losing sight of his responsibility when leading the line.

Three times Larsson supplied chances for Rooney, most memorably with a deft backheeled flick. All were spurned and the Englishman endured the sort of match he seems prone to when, no matter how frequently he shoots, a goal proves elusive.

Besides unselfishness, United appreciate style, too, and Larsson showed himself capable of that as well, juggling the ball on the edge of the Villa penalty box before passing to Gary Neville. For once, it wasn't Ronaldo supplying the most memorable tricks of the day.

Ferguson, however, chose to concentrate on more prosaic contributions. 'I think he'll score important goals for us,' he said. 'He's been doing that all his career.' The comparison he reached for was Eric Cantona but few have scored more important goals, or more winners, for United than Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

MAN OF THE MATCH: Henrik Larsson - A simple choice. He oozed class in everything he did. For United, the only regret must be that he returns to Helsingborgs in the middle of March.

UNITED VERDICT: The result was satisfactory, as was much of the performance, but warning signs were there. United were more profligate in front of goal as they have been for much of the season and, in the absence of Nemanja Vidic, lax in defence after taking the lead.

VILLA VERDICT: Deprived of several vital players and short of numbers, they resembled O'Neill's Leicester, gritty and often underestimated. Theirs was a defensive gameplan, however, and Juan Pablo Angel was stranded alone in attack in the first half. This month may show if Randy Lerner's millions can transform them into a side with attacking menace and the quality to challenge for a European place.

INJURY NEWS: Nemanja Vidic and Paul Scholes are suffering with a bug, according to Ferguson, who denied squad rotation was the reason for their omission.

ROONEY IN TROUBLE? There were suspicions that the Manchester United striker kicked out at a Villa defender. 'I'm staying out of it,' said O'Neill, but a wink suggested he thought Rooney may have been guilty. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

henke \o/

what's the rooney incident he's talking about? didn't see anything. espn's coverage so dire mind, that someone could've been beheaded and we'd have missed it...

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I must say lads, I have no clue as to why the fuss from most about the 4 mins, the only possible reason is that Motty got upset about it being the clueless twonk that he is, and everyone else has jumped on the bandwagon.

On the other hand, the Liverpool V Arsenal thread which had 4 mins should have had 8 ffs. Mind you, they probably would have broke away and horsed Carragher twice more in that time.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafParrot:

I must say lads, I have no clue as to why the fuss from most about the 4 mins, the only possible reason is that Motty got upset about it being the clueless twonk that he is, and everyone else has jumped on the bandwagon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the espn commentators were frothing at the mouth over the issue as well.

i'd say something about clueless commentators basically acting as the blind leading the blind re: the muppets that 'inherit' their opinion, but by not posting said opinion in a thread dedicated to said discussion, i'd be perpetuating the MU clique and hastening the demise of otf.

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Going back to the last page, I have had the same seat since 2001 (before that was in family stand).

1 2 3 4 5

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| | 6 7

1-Season ticket holder , although seen LOADS of different people sit there this season.

2-Crazy old woman from down south somewhere.

3-My uncle (Mart this saturday icon_frown.gificon_wink.gif), one of the three people )inc. me )who sings around us.

4-ME

5-A bloke from manchester somewhere, around mid-late twenties, usually have a bit of a natter, usually pipes up with songs when everyone else joins in.

6 & 7 both daytrippers.

Being in North Stand tier 2 sucks.

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You have to add on 30 secs for each sub so thats 2 and a half minutes there. Think WCR said 30 seconds for a goal as well so thats 3 and a half minutes.

I dont see whats wrong with 4 minutes at all, just Motty yet again showing why he should retire.

And if that article is to be believed its great news that Vidic has a bug and isnt injured.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Saha:

er mates, was at the store today when i came across a dvd of the league cup victory over wigan.

bloody hell. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I paypal you the money can you grab me a copy and send it over? Must have sold out over here. icon_frown.gif

On a more realistic note, I found my 1990 FA Cup video in a clear out last night \o/ \o/ Can't wait to watch it when I get back home.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

I honestly didnt see any Rooney kicking out incident btw... but SHOCKINGLY after the game Alan Green was going on and on about it and that Wayne deserved a card.

so incredibly tiresome </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there was a small incident at 1-1 down in the corner between the Stretty and the North Stand, but it was just a frustrated challenge by Rooney, something he is prone to do when not scoring.

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Cant see Larsson staying beyond his set loan, no matter how well he plays. When asked after the Villa game he looked pretty set in going back to Sweden, even if the club did say he could stay if he wanted to.

With regards to transfers, Hargreaves wont happen this window in my opinion, I think the management will wait until hes fit again before making an offer - a £20m (or is it £25m?) valuation is massive for Hargreaves, way to big, and I cant see us making anything near that sort of a commitment to player who isnt even fit yet.

Bale is possible, but for the sort of money thats being talked I cant help but feel we'd see Heinze going in the other direction to a different club to cover the cost, which despite Paddy Evra being a class apart this season I still wouldn't want to happen - Heinze is still a brilliant player, unlike Silvestre who seems to be giving Fergie blowies behind the clubhouse to keep himself in red attire. I can see Rossi eventually heading out aswell (on loan again), although with rumblings of Smith being on the move thats a bit up in the air at the moment. If smudger goes for the touted £6m I wouldn't be to annoyed, he hasn't really stamped his mark on the team in any real way and has had some crap luck with injuries.

I think this window we might get some Evra/Vidic style unknown signings, hopefully they will be just as good. But most likely nothing at all.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Terry Cheung:

I don't think Larsson is going to make up his mind after one game, and when he was asked it was before Helsingborgs came out with that comment.

He's been around too long to make comments about things until he's talked to the right people first. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah I thought the Helsingsborgs comment was before the game, my mistake.

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not had a chance to read through the thread, but I hope someone said.

hahhahahahaahahahahahahahaaaa

to all the ****s who always leave early and missed the goal.

(Interesting that Anfield still looked pretty much full going into injury time at 3-1 down.)

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