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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

RoRo 2 revealed

Xavi Hernandez

Rio Antonio Mavuba

Press Conference at 3pm tomorrow

OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some people just have the most creative imaginations...maybe they've confused RL with their FM game and what they're doing after lunch tomorrow in the company of their 3 cats and their budgerigar...I'm assuming the source is the RI boards?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

Just wait for 3pm tomorrow icon_biggrin.gif

Ah, it's like July 14th all over again icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As always, I love the enthusiasm.

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RED-HOT soccer star CRISTIANO RONALDO is enjoying sizzling sex sessions with Hollyoaks beauty GEMMA ATKINSON, The Sun can reveal. The 22-year-old actress, currently competing in ITV’s Soapstar Superstar, has boasted to pals about her romps with the winking winger, who is in stunning form for Man U.

Portuguese star Ronaldo, 21, has bedded her in his Cheshire mansion during secret trysts.

He spotted Gemma — Lisa Hunter in Hollyoaks — at a party, asked for her number then called for a date.

The smitten beauty told a pal: “He is gorgeous in every way and things are going really well.â€

Gemma, also a glamour model, had been dating Charlton ace MARCUS BENT.

She is showing off her singing talents on Soapstar Superstar, which is filmed in Manchester.'

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wp ronnie son, she has massive tits icon14.gif

also icon_biggrin.gif at the xavi rumours about as likely as us signing ronaldinho was imo.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulesMUFC:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

RED-HOT soccer star CRISTIANO RONALDO is enjoying sizzling sex sessions with Hollyoaks beauty GEMMA ATKINSON, The Sun can reveal. The 22-year-old actress, currently competing in ITV’s Soapstar Superstar, has boasted to pals about her romps with the winking winger, who is in stunning form for Man U.

Portuguese star Ronaldo, 21, has bedded her in his Cheshire mansion during secret trysts.

He spotted Gemma — Lisa Hunter in Hollyoaks — at a party, asked for her number then called for a date.

The smitten beauty told a pal: “He is gorgeous in every way and things are going really well.â€

Gemma, also a glamour model, had been dating Charlton ace MARCUS BENT.

She is showing off her singing talents on Soapstar Superstar, which is filmed in Manchester.'

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wp ronnie son, she has massive tits icon14.gif

also icon_biggrin.gif at the xavi rumours about as likely as us signing ronaldinho was imo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's why he's in such a good form this season icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

United make Mavuba contact

Rio Mavuba's agent has confirmed to skysports.com that his client has been contacted by Manchester United, but has played down the possibility of the Bordeaux midfielder moving anywhere in January.

Mavuba is regarded as one of the brightest young prospects in European football and has been linked with several of the continent's top clubs.

He has previously stated that he would relish the opportunity to play for the Premiership leaders, and United are eager to keep tabs on his progress.

Vincenzo Morabito, the player's representative, feels a move away from France is unlikely to go ahead this month, but has hinted that Mavuba could be set for pastures new in the summer.

However, Morabito has warned United that they will face stiff competition for Mavuba's signature, as Italian giants Juventus have also made contact with the young Frenchman.

Morabito told skysports.com: "It is true that the player is followed very closely by clubs in England, but also in Italy.

"The situation will depend on a lot of details.

"Bordeaux are an ambitious club that are attempting to qualify for a second consecutive UEFA Champions League, so it may be easier for Rio to leave in the summer.

"But if a club offer a big sum of money during the January transfer window, we will see if Bordeaux are interested in transferring him.

"I sincerely think that the summer transfer window will be more interesting for him.

"Manchester United and Juventus have asked for him.

"That is normal. Rio is a future top-class player and his future lies with a very ambitious European club."

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Its happening lads, leave 3pm tomorrow free to watch the press conference.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

know nothing about him. what's he like? and more importantly, can he play left back? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We don't need players incapable of playing left back. icon_cool.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has labelled Henrik Larsson the best player to come out of Scandinavia since Michael Laudrup.

Larsson has joined Manchester United on loan from Swedish side Helsingborgs and netted on his debut for the club against Aston Villa on Sunday.

The former Celtic striker had to wait for his United debut following his December switch, having been ineligible to appear for Sir Alex Ferguson's side until the start of January.

Solskjaer is delighted with the signing of Larsson and believes the wait was certainly well worth it.

"Henrik Larsson is the best player we have had in Scandinavia since Michael Laudrup," he told Aftenposten.

"He continues to get better, and it was important for the manager to see what kind of shape he was in because he hadn't played for a while.

"I do not think he was disappointed."

Defender Patrice Evra is also full of praise for the latest addition to the United squad.

Larsson's loan deal at Old Trafford is due to expire on 12th March, although his stay could be extended until the end of the season.

Evra added: "I am very happy for him that he scored because he is a good man. He wants to work for the team and has good experience.

"Henrik is a big player, and you can see he has lots of qualities. Every time he touched the ball he caused problems for the other team.

"I am very happy to play alongside someone like him at United." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ole so modest. icon_cool.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

but fergie tried to sign gazza jules? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeh i know, but perhaps fergie wouldve tried harder if he could run all day.(i know it was gazzas choice to go to sperz over us). im not overly sure what my point was about gazza other than he couldnt run all day. icon_confused.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

RoRo 2 revealed

Xavi Hernandez

Rio Antonio Mavuba

Press Conference at 3pm tomorrow

OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh no.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Sir Alex Ferguson's brilliance famously knocked Liverpool off their perch. Now his incompetence is doing the same to Manchester United. How did it come to this, wonders Rob Smyth

It was John Cleese, in Clockwise, who said: "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." Manchester United fans would beg to differ. Usually, the best thing about pre-season is the hope: reality's incisors have yet to pierce the gums of optimism, and fans can live off the balmy, often barmy belief that this is their year. For supporters of most of the other 91 English clubs, that's the mood right now. For United fans? Forget it. After three seasons of papering over the cracks, it seems most United fans are awaiting the moment that the fault lines tracing a veiny path across Old Trafford are exposed.

Almost everything about the club reeks of disarray. Owned by the Glazers, who push buttons from a remote hideaway like Dr Evil; run by a manager who shreds his legacy at every turn; almost exclusively represented by the inadequate (Darren Fletcher and Kieran Richardson) and the odious (Rio Ferdinand); unable to close a deal for West Brom's reserve keeper, never mind the new Roy Keane. The signing of Michael Carrick, a Pirlo when a Gattuso was needed, is a band aid for a bullet wound, and a ludicrously expensive one at that.

If anything, it's a surprise that United have bought anyone at all. This summer, they have been like a pathetic drunk lumbering across a dancefloor at 1.45am, trying to get off with everything that moves. No matter how many people they move in for - and if reports are to be believed, United have made offers for dozens of players - nobody wants to go near them. And the one person who surely would, Damien Duff, was allowed to slip into the arms of Newcastle for less than United paid for Patrice Evra. You couldn't make it up. You don't have to.

United finished second last season, but that said more about the deficiency of the Premiership than their own. Arsenal will not have a four-month blind spot this season, while all evidence suggests that Liverpool's gradient will continue on its upward trajectory. With Tottenham getting stronger, even with the loss of Carrick, it is entirely conceivable that, if they start slowly, United could finish fifth; in today's environment, that would be disastrous.

The problems are so obvious, so fundamental, as to be beggar belief that they have not been addressed. Just as the glory years of 1992 to 2001 will only fully be appreciated in 20 years' time, so will Ferguson's subsequent failure. It is particularly bewildering that a man who once exerted such an unyielding grip on every single aspect of the club that he had to be virtually coerced into delegating has let things slip to this extent. Take the Cristiano Ronaldo situation: Ferguson said recently that he had not even spoken to Ronaldo since the World Cup, a staggering dereliction of duty that is in total contrast to the us-against-the-world protection that he gave to David Beckham - and for which, for a time, he was so thrillingly rewarded - in 1998.

Once upon a time Ferguson could play 'who blinks first' with fate and win every time, his iron will shaping his destiny exactly as he wanted. Now he is reduced to uttering garbage like "it's like having a new signing" of Paul Scholes, Ole Solskjaer, Gabriel Heinze and Alan Smith, the irrational if-I-say-it-enough-it-might-happen gibberish you'd associate with a serial loser like Kevin Keegan. These days, the man they call The Hairdryer is full of nothing but hot air.

Ferguson's squad, once so taut, is a baggy mess of has-beens, never-will-bes and Liam Miller. The simple repetition of 4-4-2, of Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Beckham, Cole and Yorke, has given way to myriad tactical and personnel changes, to a ruinous obsession with utility players and tinkering. It's a truly appalling fact that, with Ruud van Nistelrooy gone, none of United's outfield players have played in only one position at the club. A nadir was reached in the FA Cup game at Wolves last season, when nearly £60m of defensive and attacking talent (Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney) was used in the centre of midfield.

It is an increasingly inescapable conclusion that, unwittingly or otherwise, Ferguson is winding down, a prizefighter who no longer has the stomach or the wit for an admittedly enormous challenge which, once upon a time, he would have fervently inhaled. Like he did with Liverpool. Ferguson's almost maniacal yearning to "knock Liverpool off their ****ing perch" was arguably the single most important factor in United's 1990s renaissance. It makes it all the more vicious an irony that, 10 years later, he should knock United off the perch he had made for them through increasingly rank mismanagement.

Indeed, it must irk him beyond belief that United are making exactly the same mistakes that Liverpool did: lack of pheromones in the transfer market; laughable, fall-back signings at suspicious and ridiculous prices; deluded ramblings ("we are as good as Chelsea, no question") - and, worst of all, a dressing-room where playing the field seems as important as playing the game. Liverpool's Spice Boys were bad, but they have nothing on Merk Berks like Ferdinand, Richardson and Wes Brown.

Ferguson has taken this end-of-an-empire template and, incredibly, managed to develop it: he's added a sprawling, outsized squad chock-full of obscenely well-paid deadwood; insultingly obvious spin that a two-year-old could see through (the Van Nistelrooy saga); economy with the truth (Ferguson ridiculed a journalist for saying that Paul Scholes had been scouting for United; a few days later Scholes confirmed the story); a coaching set-up that had Wayne Rooney playing wide for a season and turned Ronaldo from the world's most thrilling off-the-wall talent into a run-of-the-mill winger.

Ferguson, an essentially honourable man, is partly suffering because of the impossibly high standards he set, and he carries the fatigued incomprehension of a man who is out of time. When he cites his favourite United team it is not the Treble-winners of 1999, but the Double-winners of 1994: Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Ince, Keane, Hughes, Cantona, Robson - a team that dripped masculinity, who bonded over blockbusting Saturday-night sessions, who embodied the old-school values to which Ferguson can relate. Real men. The gentrification generation - sarong-wearing, pink champagne-swigging metrosexuals - are entirely beyond his comprehension. He could handle one, David Beckham, for a time before eventually giving up on him. Now he has a pack of them, for whom the hairdryer means only one thing - a trip to Toni & Guy. It is a different world. Ferguson probably doesn't even know what 'merk' means.

Everywhere, principles are being sacrificed. In years gone by Ferdinand - who for all his irrefutable ability is the type of character whose presence in a United shirt symbolises everything that has gone wrong with the club - would've been out the door faster than Paul Ince could say 'big-time Charlie', but now Ferguson can't afford to lose his only world-class defender. In years gone by he wouldn't have considered signing someone like Patrick Vieira, on grounds of age or character, but now he is left looking for someone, anyone, to appease the fans. In years gone by he would never have given a game to someone like John O'Shea, whose sole use is to put the podge in a hodgepodge midfield. In years gone by, he would never have sanctioned the mediocre football that, except for a few giddy weeks in the spring of 2003, United have played ever since Carlos Queiroz arrived in 2002 masquerading gobbledygook as continental sophistication.

And the thing is, it is only going to get worse: Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham have all made shrewd, cheap signings and are on an upward trajectory. United are going the other way: they are hugely dependent on Ferdinand and Rooney, but no amount of Carling Cup medals is going to sate their ambition. Then there is the Glazer factor, the full, inevitable horror of which is only just beginning to emerge. United fans think this season is going to be bad. It hasn't even started. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

just to show what an abu twat Rob Smyth is

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

Eboue wasnt down for THAT long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ffs icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Ferguson's squad, once so taut, is a baggy mess of has-beens, never-will-bes and Liam Miller. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Heh, when was this actually written? icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> It was John Cleese, in Clockwise, who said: "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What a fantastic line icon_cool.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> O'Neill: Bardsley can be a hit

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill is delighted with the loan signing of young United defender Phil Bardsley, and has challenged the Reds full-back to prove his potential at the Midlands club.

Bardsley, whose loan spell at Rangers earlier this season didn't really work out, was this week confirmed as O'Neill's first capture of the January transfer window, securing the 21-year-old's services until the end of the season.

"I think Phil is very hungry to do well in the Premiership. He just wants that opportunity," said O'Neill. "Of course, at United there's the small matter of trying to get past Gary Neville in that right-back position - one of the best players around in that role for many years.

"Phil has the opportunity to come and fight for his place in the team. Nothing is cut and dried for him but he's one of those who's not had everything easy and he wants to battle."

Bardsley is highly rated at Old Trafford, but he needs a sustained run of first-team football in the Premiership to take his game to the next level.

"Anyone who's had their football schooling at Manchester United possesses quality but it's his attitude that's absolutely top-class and a big plus for us," added O'Neill. "We've got a lot of important games coming up and he's got from now until the end of May to try to prove himself."

Bardsley can't play against United on Saturday, but could make his debut when Ben Foster's Watford travel to Villa Park on 20 January. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And the one person who surely would, Damien Duff, was allowed to slip into the arms of Newcastle for less than United paid for Patrice Evra. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah, we really got the worst deal there :*(

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Arsenal will not have a four-month blind spot this season, while all evidence suggests that Liverpool's gradient will continue on its upward trajectory. With Tottenham getting stronger, even with the loss of Carrick, it is entirely conceivable that, if they start slowly, United could finish fifth; in today's environment, that would be disastrous. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

mystic meg has a rival here i see

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">laughable, fall-back signings at suspicious and ridiculous prices </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

vida and paddy just laughable

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham have all made shrewd, cheap signings and are on an upward trajectory. United are going the other way </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that's 'from' material that is \O/

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

Eboue wasnt down for THAT long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt want to do this, but you left me with no choice.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

Eboue wasnt down for THAT long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ffs icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

icon_biggrin.gif He does seem to be milking it somewhat.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by goon:

Eboue wasnt down for THAT long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt want to do this, but you left me with no choice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll have to roll out the big guns now

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">just to show what an abu twat Rob Smyth is </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Errrr, he's a self confessed United fan actually.

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